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Decision to make... I'm moving to Revelstoke long term, only owned hard tails before and do about 25% rural road/path riding, 75% trails; mostly XC, but certainly some steeper, more technical climbs and descents... XC riding is more my jam!

But in terms of a fun versatile FS bike, what should I consider? At first I was going to go for an Anthem or Anthem SX... now leaning more toward the Trance... also at the shop was really good deal "$1000 off" a Giant Region 0 2013; which may be a good substitute for a trance by the looks of it? Only thing I'm not too keen about is 26" instead of the 27.5" ; something Giant has moved away from.
 

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Can you explain why a newer Trance SX would be superior to the older Reign 0 (2013) ??? Especially considering I could get a brand new Reign 0 for $1000-$2000 cheaper than a Trance SX?

The Reign from 2013 appears to be much more similar to a Trance than the Reign of today, which is a completely different bike now.
 

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Can you explain why a newer Trance SX would be superior to the older Reign 0 (2013) ??? Especially considering I could get a brand new Reign 0 for $1000-$2000 cheaper than a Trance SX?

The Reign from 2013 appears to be much more similar to a Trance than the Reign of today, which is a completely different bike now.
May not be a concern but the Reign has 26" wheels, the other 2 you're asking about are 27.5. The $1-2k price difference may negate that though....

That being said, the Reign is a lot more bike then you've been use to riding, may be "too much" as they say for where you're going to be riding in the future. It's all relative to individuals. My regular ride group has a mix of rigid/fr shock ht single speed's->fs XC->WFO/Enduros and we all ride the same trails. Some excel better heading up, some heading down.
 

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Can you explain why a newer Trance SX would be superior to the older Reign 0 (2013) ??? Especially considering I could get a brand new Reign 0 for $1000-$2000 cheaper than a Trance SX?
I wouldn't make it a numbers game but that huge price discount is a good indicator alone on how well that old Reign compares to the newer gen 27.5 bikes. Why don't you just testride them and make your own assessment?
 

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The area you're moving to might look more like Reign or Trance SX, but if you're more of a XC rider, like you stated, then I wouldn't go any bigger than a Trance. 140mm of travel is a lot if you're coming off a more XC bike. The Trance pedals really well for having that much travel and the Anthem SX just rips. It's really hard to out-ride the Trance. I'd go for a regular Trance and I'd definitely steer clear of the Reign based on how you describe your riding.
 

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Hello,

Decision to make... I'm moving to Revelstoke long term, only owned hard tails before and do about 25% rural road/path riding, 75% trails; mostly XC, but certainly some steeper, more technical climbs and descents... XC riding is more my jam!

But in terms of a fun versatile FS bike, what should I consider? At first I was going to go for an Anthem or Anthem SX... now leaning more toward the Trance... also at the shop was really good deal "$1000 off" a Giant Region 0 2013; which may be a good substitute for a trance by the looks of it? Only thing I'm not too keen about is 26" instead of the 27.5" ; something Giant has moved away from.
When you make new pals, you'll probably be the only one of your group with an XC bike out there if you get the Anthem. IMO you will quickly adapt to more fun trails and riding. I'd get the Trance, maybe the Reign.

On the fun rating scale I would say:

Reign > Trance > Anthem
 

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"140mm of travel is a lot if you're coming off a more XC bike"

I'm coming off a hard tail, giant talon... I enjoy the uphill as much as the downhill... I've had people at a couple different put in a good argument for each bike...

Does the downhill capability of the Trance outweigh the long distance riding and climbing capability of the Anthem SX?
 

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Does the downhill capability of the Trance outweigh the long distance riding and climbing capability of the Anthem SX?
yes. Trance is the better allrounder. The Anthem riders are just badly disguised XC guys who cannot and will not commit to a more downhill and fun orientated riding style due to their passion for steep headangles and overly long stems!
 

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The thing is I'm coming from an HT and I enjoy XC riding, fast, flow, roll as opposed to extremely steep, rough, rugged technical climbs and descents... I surf and ski and I pursue those sports to the extreme... For biking I more do it more to relax, explore, cruise around... including rural roads and paths.

I assume I should not consider the new high end Stance?
 

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yes. Trance is the better allrounder. The Anthem riders are just badly disguised XC guys who cannot and will not commit to a more downhill and fun orientated riding style due to their passion for steep headangles and overly long stems!
I own a trance, but if I owned a Anthem it would be very similar angles and built with the short stem. With 130mm fork the angles would be slack, and the CS is actually shorter on the Anthem.
 

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yes. Trance is the better allrounder. The Anthem riders are just badly disguised XC guys who cannot and will not commit to a more downhill and fun orientated riding style due to their passion for steep headangles and overly long stems!
Drunk on the kook aid! lol
 

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yes. Trance is the better allrounder. The Anthem riders are just badly disguised XC guys who cannot and will not commit to a more downhill and fun orientated riding style due to their passion for steep headangles and overly long stems!
This is true. I am a timid, no jumpy XC guy. Last winter I bought a Bucksaw and started riding over lots of stuff I used to walk - it allowed me to punch above my weight class. After a season of that I started to yearn for a light bike for climbs so I bought (I think) the last 2015 Anthem 1 in Alberta (such a good deal).

I don't think the Anthem buyer is disguised at all - its a good bike for going fast on world cup xc type trails (groomed, double track, flowey non technical hiking trails). There is nothing wrong with that.

After a couple of rides I can honestly say the Anthem practically feels like a road bike - the front is so steep, and riding it over the stuff I ride on the Bucksaw was scary as hell.

However, I came up the climbs about 3x as fast (felt like it). So there is something to be said for that.
 

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This is true. I am a timid, no jumpy XC guy. Last winter I bought a Bucksaw and started riding over lots of stuff I used to walk - it allowed me to punch above my weight class. After a season of that I started to yearn for a light bike for climbs so I bought (I think) the last 2015 Anthem 1 in Alberta (such a good deal).

I don't think the Anthem buyer is disguised at all - its a good bike for going fast on world cup xc type trails (groomed, double track, flowey non technical hiking trails). There is nothing wrong with that.

After a couple of rides I can honestly say the Anthem practically feels like a road bike - the front is so steep, and riding it over the stuff I ride on the Bucksaw was scary as hell.

However, I came up the climbs about 3x as fast (felt like it). So there is something to be said for that.
Anthem with a 120 or 130 fork would be much different than a 100 mm fork.
 

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yes. Trance is the better allrounder. The Anthem riders are just badly disguised XC guys who cannot and will not commit to a more downhill and fun orientated riding style due to their passion for steep headangles and overly long stems!
Meh. I have an Anthem 29er. I know what it's made for, and that's what I use it for. I mostly ride pretty tame XC stuff because...well, that's pretty much all there is where I live. But I grew up near some great rides, and the Anthem has been there too - Reddish Knob for instance. That's not just steep and technical, it'll smoke your brakes for you too if you can't commit. Hint: My brakes did not smoke, because I know how to ride.

I also have a "trail hardtail" (is 69 degrees trail territory anymore?) that I own top 10 segment times on a bunch of local "downhills" (oh yea, it's a single speed ...) so, let's not pigeon hole Anthem buyers. Sometimes all you need is a tack hammer, and there's no sense getting a 44oz framing hammer out to drive a trim tack.
 

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The thing is I'm coming from an HT and I enjoy XC riding, fast, flow, roll as opposed to extremely steep, rough, rugged technical climbs and descents... I surf and ski and I pursue those sports to the extreme... For biking I more do it more to relax, explore, cruise around... including rural roads and paths.

I assume I should not consider the new high end Stance?
Nothing wrong with high end Stance except then you're into a mid level Trance pricing where you get the Maestro over the single flex pivot. And less possibility of chainstay breakage.
 
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