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Just a bit of Sultan Stoke...my 2011 XL Sultan showed up today! And just built it up...I originally ordered a RAw frame but they ran out in XL, so I picked the Black on Black...and so glad I did, as it looks steathly!:thumbsup:

Just looking over the frame- the workmanship, attention to details, and welds look stellar, the Black ano. with laser etching is very tastefully done.

I previously sold my Pivot 429 a few weeks ago, as I wanted a bit slacker angles, and more travel....but didn't want to give up the benefits the 429 had to offer, so the Sultan was a natural transition. In addition, I didn't see the any benefit waiting for the new crop of AM style 29ers coming out, when the Sultan is a proven product and ready to go now.

I've got my whole parts group from the 429 ready to install with a few changes- 44 Ti 140mm, new BB, Headset, and still need to pick up the correct Ft. Der. yet... I'll continue to post the progress!

I gotta say, having just built it....I'm not a fan of the cabe routing and having to use Full Length Housing....Hopefully that will change in the future.

Just a shout out to DT and Jarret at Turner! Thank you!
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:thumbsup:Just Returned from the Maiden Voyage::thumbsup:

A quick 10 mile loop, nothing very chunky, but lots of singletrack and transitions....I ride I rode my 429 many many times....
Overall I was surprised how smooth it rode, in fact I had to stop a check to see if the O-ring on the shock was even moved (of course it was:madman:)...but it just flowed thru without notice of so much of the trail and isolated any impact or jarring to me...almost without much feedback, which to be honest I had expected and wanted? more feedback...

The Sultan is super quiet, along with that smoothness (perhaps thats part of the smoothness is being quiet). The Geo with the 140mm fork felt good and very stable, yet it tracked precisely, althought a hair slower than the 429 I had. The rear end felt very planted without any noticable bob either seated or standing (propedal was off) and just mowed over stuff without much weight transition or momentum loss. Also climbing steeps it felt very controled, not really much weightlessness of the front (I expected more, due to the 140mm fork, instead it was pretty firm).
The Sultan feels like a 429 on steriods, but with less bob and about double the travel...can't wait to hit some real chunk:D
 

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I'm curious as to how efficiently the Sultan pedals compared to the 429. I'm a happy 429 owner but the Sultan is also being considered as upgrade for next season for the same reasons you listed. If only CDale would make a 120mm travel 29er Lefty! THAT would make a Sultan a no brainer for me;)
 

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There is a lot about the Sultan that I like. Pretty much everything but the deal breaking 18.2" CS length, that is.

If DT were to shorten the CS length to 17.7", or less, he would sell so many that it would be shocking.

FWIW I have a Bandit 29 on pre-order. I would have for sure thrown down the extra coin for the Sultan if not for the CS issue.
 

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Nice Dude, very nice. I think you'll like that a lot and although it may pedal similar to your 429 I think it's gona put a whole lot more smiles on your face, especially on the downs ;)
 

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I'm curious as to how efficiently the Sultan pedals compared to the 429. I'm a happy 429 owner but the Sultan is also being considered as upgrade for next season for the same reasons you listed. If only CDale would make a 120mm travel 29er Lefty! THAT would make a Sultan a no brainer for me;)
I own an '09 Sultan and rode both a 2012 Sultan and Mach 429 at Outerbike. Pedaling efficiency is very similar on all three and I had great difficulty getting the rear wheel to slip as is the case on my '09 (rode the 2012's ~4 hours each). I'd give the Pivot a slight edge since its rear triangle has one less pivot point though the way it was readily apparent to me was a less plush ride than either Sultan. If you want a more "active" ride, 429 is da bomb. For my 40+ bones, a plush ride is preferable and the difference in pedaling efficiency is negligible.
 

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Plushness isn't the issue for me just yet. I'm riding more and more aggressive stuff and am starting to regret not getting a 120mm bike. The 429 is awesome 90% of the time but I've bottomed it out a few times doing large drops. I might just pick up a used Sultan over the winter and try it out:)
 

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There is a lot about the Sultan that I like. Pretty much everything but the deal breaking 18.2" CS length, that is.

If DT were to shorten the CS length to 17.7", or less, he would sell so many that it would be shocking.
There's a shiny spot on the backside of the seat tube on my 2011 XL Sultan. I run a 29x2.4 Ardent on the rear, and I don't know if it's tire or trail dirt stuck to the tread that put it there, but I don't think those chainstays could get any shorter. And I don't want them to be any shorter.

Once, twenty years ago, I told a local, well-known framebuilder exactly how I wanted him to build a mountain bike for me. I told him tube diameters, frame geometry, colors, everything. He did exactly what I told him to do. It rode like crap.

I trust Dave Turner and Dave Weagle to figure that stuff out. I love my Sultan. It's my "fun" bike, and it rocks.

Morgan, pretty much a homer
 

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2011 Sultans

Oh wow , the black ano version looks way more spiffy then my new plain jane raw frame ! :D I dunno much about E expert geo specs.....I just know I dig the ride after being on a 09 Sultan for three seasons ! TIG.
 

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Oh wow , the black ano version looks way more spiffy then my new plain jane raw frame ! :D I dunno much about E expert geo specs.....I just know I dig the ride after being on a 09 Sultan for three seasons ! TIG.
I actually prefer the raw frame. But then I did order my new frame with the pewter finish instead of the black.

About the E expert comment: I have been riding a longish travel 29er now for five years & well over 10k miles. It has 17.7 inch chainstays. Based on that real world experience I know that I prefer that my new build have stays that long or shorter. Yes, I have had time on FS 29ers with over 18 inch stays.
 

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Can I see a side photo of the xxl? What year is it?
Great looking rides.
 
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