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I've been bikepacking the through the western US for the last 3 months on my Kona Sutra LTD and have recently returned home to Colorado. With winter just a couple months away I dont want to stop riding so I've been looking at fat bikes to ride the long 1 mile journey to work and around town.

This will be in a paved road but given I live in the mountains there will be plenty of snow. From everything I've seen all fat bikes have a slack/comfort geometry but I'd like something with a bit more of an aggressive build similar to a hardtail mtb.

I'm looking for something I can swap a 27.5x2.5-3 setup to in the summer to ride some easy/moderate trails on.

Must have front suspension and a 1x groupset.

If any of you have any suggestions they would be greatly appreciated. Or am I looking for something that doesn't exist?
 

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I've been bikepacking the through the western US for the last 3 months on my Kona Sutra LTD and have recently returned home to Colorado. With winter just a couple months away I dont want to stop riding so I've been looking at fat bikes to ride the long 1 mile journey to work and around town.

This will be in a paved road but given I live in the mountains there will be plenty of snow. From everything I've seen all fat bikes have a slack/comfort geometry but I'd like something with a bit more of an aggressive build similar to a hardtail mtb.

I'm looking for something I can swap a 27.5x2.5-3 setup to in the summer to ride some easy/moderate trails on.

Must have front suspension and a 1x groupset.

If any of you have any suggestions they would be greatly appreciated. Or am I looking for something that doesn't exist?
Check out Pole Taiga?

For sure a 27.5"x3 setup won't be ideal on any modern fatbike, but 29" would give similar pedal clearance to fatbike tires.

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I've been bikepacking the through the western US for the last 3 months on my Kona Sutra LTD and have recently returned home to Colorado. With winter just a couple months away I dont want to stop riding so I've been looking at fat bikes to ride the long 1 mile journey to work and around town.

This will be in a paved road but given I live in the mountains there will be plenty of snow. From everything I've seen all fat bikes have a slack/comfort geometry but I'd like something with a bit more of an aggressive build similar to a hardtail mtb.

I'm looking for something I can swap a 27.5x2.5-3 setup to in the summer to ride some easy/moderate trails on.

Must have front suspension and a 1x groupset.

If any of you have any suggestions they would be greatly appreciated. Or am I looking for something that doesn't exist?
I would check out the 2020 Rocky Mountain Blizzard 50 that just came out, MTB/trail geometry with a Manitou Mastodon front shock and a 1X 12speed eagle drivetrain. Comes with 27.5 wheels and can run 29" as well.

I just bought a 2019 Blizzard 20 myself and upgraded to mastodon shock and 12speed eagle drivetrain, mine came with 26x4.8 wheels but can also run up to 29x3 wheels. Great bikes for sure. I chose rocky mountain because of their geometry.

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I second the Rocky Mountain Blizzard recommendation. Also take a look at the Kona Wozo and the latest iteration of the RSD Mayor. All three bikes have geometries suitable for summer trail riding and have build kits that include a front suspension fork.
 

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I would check out the 2020 Rocky Mountain Blizzard 50 that just came out, MTB/trail geometry with a Manitou Mastodon front shock and a 1X 12speed eagle drivetrain. Comes with 27.5 wheels and can run 29" as well.

I just bought a 2019 Blizzard 20 myself and upgraded to mastodon shock and 12speed eagle drivetrain, mine came with 26x4.8 wheels but can also run up to 29x3 wheels. Great bikes for sure. I chose rocky mountain because of their geometry.

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Is it known what the max tire size is for the Blizzard 50? 27.5 x 4.5 would be fun. I love the paint job of the 50.
 

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Is it known what the max tire size is for the Blizzard 50? 27.5 x 4.5 would be fun. I love the paint job of the 50.
They come stock with 27.5x4.0, I would think 4.5 is doable but I would email rocky mountain tech support for a answer.

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Stephane is the guy that usually gets back to any of my tech questions.

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OP here

My budget for the fattie is about 1k, I could stretch it a bit more but would rather not. This bike will primarily be used to commute to work/ride around town here in snowy Colorado.

From the research I've done lately I really dont need front suspension so my requirements have changed.

-Fully rigid
-1x11 would be nice but would settle for 1x10 with the correct gears. (I'm a left leg amputee and I like to spin, not grind)
-I'm 5'8" 145lbs so I'm right in the middle of the small to medium range
-I want something nimble and easy to maneuver so I'm leaning towards getting a smaller frame
-Since this bike will be primarily ridden in the snow being able to fit 26x5 would be nice

I've been looking at the used market and you would think there would be plenty to choose from here in Colorado but there isn't.

Checkout the Fox shock on my prosthetic designed for cycling, snowboarding, skiing, wakeboarding ect.
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OP here

My budget for the fattie is about 1k, I could stretch it a bit more but would rather not. This bike will primarily be used to commute to work/ride around town here in snowy Colorado.

From the research I've done lately I really dont need front suspension so my requirements have changed.

-Fully rigid
-1x11 would be nice but would settle for 1x10 with the correct gears. (I'm a left leg amputee and I like to spin, not grind)
-I'm 5'8" 145lbs so I'm right in the middle of the small to medium range
-I want something nimble and easy to maneuver so I'm leaning towards getting a smaller frame
-Since this bike will be primarily ridden in the snow being able to fit 26x5 would be nice

I've been looking at the used market and you would think there would be plenty to choose from here in Colorado but there isn't.
Check out the Norco bigfoot 2, you can get a 2019 for around 1k US dollars, they come with 26x4.9 tires stock, 11 speed drivetrain, lifetime warranty on frame as well. Small would be a good size for you. I find with fatbikes the differences between frame size arent as dramatic.

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I was in the same boat, I bought brand new locally, because the few used ones around were way over priced, after a mastodon shock and 12 speed eagle upgrade I'm about $2500 into it but I couldn't buy one spec'd like this for under$4500. Funny thing tho, 2 weeks later I picked up a 2018 KHS fatbike for the wife for $250! Great score on that one.

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I was in the same boat, I bought brand new locally, because the few used ones around were way over priced, after a mastodon shock and 12 speed eagle upgrade I'm about $2500 into it but I couldn't buy one spec'd like this for under$4500. Funny thing tho, 2 weeks later I picked up a 2018 KHS fatbike for the wife for $250! Great score on that one.

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For 250!!? That would be a nice find!

I wouldn't have a problem with finding something that needed a few upgrades, I like working on stuff like that. Just gotta wait for the right one i guess. Still have a couple months before the snow starts falling here so until then I'll just be riding my 29er.

Keeping my eye out for a Beargrease and also thinking about a lower spec Framed.
 

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If you are basing your gear ratios on your summer experience, I’d strongly advise you to reconsider. Else you will want/need to swap out the front chain ring in the snow season.

I run 10spd 32x11-36 year round as the climbs aren’t that big in MD. Up to 4” of snow and I can usually get by in the climbing gears when things are flat. Deeper snow requires I manually drop the chain to the 22T in front. I didn’t learn I needed that until after the first winter.

11 or 12 in the back could make a significant difference in riding vs going on a walk with your bike.
 

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If you are basing your gear ratios on your summer experience, I'd strongly advise you to reconsider. Else you will want/need to swap out the front chain ring in the snow season.

I run 10spd 32x11-36 year round as the climbs aren't that big in MD. Up to 4" of snow and I can usually get by in the climbing gears when things are flat. Deeper snow requires I manually drop the chain to the 22T in front. I didn't learn I needed that until after the first winter.

11 or 12 in the back could make a significant difference in riding vs going on a walk with your bike.
What else would I base it off of?

My current setup for climbing mountains on my 30lb gravel bike is a 11sp 30x10-42 and lately I haven't been using the 42 since I've become a much stronger rider. Using my lowest gear at 30x42 gives me a pedal stroke of 20.7 gear inches and just slightly over walking speed.

This same gearing with a 26x4.7 fat tire at 10psi gives me a pedal stroke of 21.4 gear inches. Your 22x36 gearing gives you 18.3 gear inches per pedal stroke, a difference of just 2.9 gear inches. Seems to me that this gearing would be fine on a fat bike or am I missing something?

I like a 1x setup for ease of use, less maintenance, and less weight
 

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I run a 32t chainring and 12speed 10-50 cassette on my rocky mountain fatbike, my wife's KHS is a 21 speed, 3 up front and 7 out back. I'm in the process of switching the KHS to a 1x drivetrain, I'm going to use the 26t and 11-46 cassette that came stock on my rocky mountain for the khs, just need to track down a crank and hub for this KHS.

I'm not sure how my ratios will do this winter but with 4.8" wide minions im sure I'll do alright. My fat bike is used as a 4 season bike and I do a mix of flats and hills and all diff types of terrain now. I have semi slicks duro Fleetwood, maxxis minions and soon a 27.5x3.0 minion setup.

I will only ever run a 1X drivetrain on all my bikes now, can't stand having 2 shifters and a front derailleur. Just no need for the extra weight and complication in my opinion.



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I’m not writing to be a dick. Politely suggested you to reconsider.

You had mentioned 10spd would be an OK choice and I offered a counter point. I’d consider myself a fairly strong rider, live in a flatter area with less snow and a traditional 1x10 (nonwiderange) does not cut it for a snow bike.

In snow you will use all your summer bike gearing and then some if your goal is to ride anything but groomed surfaces. You will be riding at a snails pace at the verge of tipping over sideways. Walking (in snowshoes?) may very well be faster. But the goal is to ride, right?

Riding in serious snow very well may require you to pedal the downhills to maintain any speed. Places you’d be going 20 mph effortlessly in the summer. Think of it as potentially riding against the worst headwind you’ve ever faced, but all the time in any direction.
 
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