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xc(cross country) you generally go from point a to point b as fast as you can.
xc bikes are usually hardtails (front suspension only) with 3-4 inches travel or full suspenion (suspenision front and back) with 3-4 inches of travel front and rear.

am(all mountain) you ride more technical trails, go of jumps, and drops.
am bikes are usualy full suspension with around 6 inches of travel btu some have hard tails too
 

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It's all in the legs...

AM = hairy, unshaved legs that will take you to the top of the hill and back down again.

XC = silky smooth shaved legs that will take you to the top of the hill and back down again.

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The trails that you ride on an AM bike are usually very similar to a XC bike but more playing around usually and more about the fun of riding moreso than racing/training.

AM bikes have more travel, slacker geometry, heavier bikes, little burlier depending on the finesse of the ride. They're like a lay-z-boy...
 

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All Mountain means you would rather yeild to the guy coming down the hill instead of the guy coming up the hill or maybe that's just me.
 

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ALL-Mountain is for guys who don't have the balls for freeriding or the fitness for xc.

JUST KIDDING!

Hard to draw a line-xc bikers, bikes and trails have really pushed the limits over the last few years--The Hairiest downhill portions of South Mountain in AZ seem to me to be more than xc--is this the heart of All-mountain?? Though, xc skills are pretty handy getting up to National, now aren't they.

The confusion between xc/all-mountain and the sometime rancor of definition is in part due to the fact that there are two sources of ALL_MOUNTAIN categorization. The Bike Industry defining a product line and actual Mountain Bikers defining their type of riding.

The Industry seems to want to put a hard-line, equipment based definition on All-mountain (for reasons that need no elaboration), All mountain riders know that regardless of type of bike used, they seem to be engaging in something slightly divergent from the biking ethos of their hard core racing buddies.

That's my take anyway.
 

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Just seems to me these days that XC is all about superlightweight bikes and racing. I know there is a recreational side to XC too, but a lot of these guys are all about speed and punishing themselves too ;) I know, I have a few friends like that and I rarely ride with them anymore.

I see AM as being less speed and more fun oriented. Most trails I ride would be fine on a lightweight XC race bike, often quicker overall, but harder work and ultimately less fun (or should I say MY definition of fun). So I ride a sturdy 6x6 AM trailbike and have loads of fun, no racing, no trying to beat anyone. The group I ride with think the same way and ride similar bikes.
 

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What about those who go as fast as possible for as long as possible, but also stop to try technical sections over and over and over... with a good portions of jumps, drops, bridges, steep chutes and drop offs....

Would that make us All Mountain XC'ers??

As Nat from IMBA once told me... its all mountain biking.
 

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What about those who go as fast as possible for as long as possible, but also stop to try technical sections over and over and over... with a good portions of jumps, drops, bridges, steep chutes and drop offs....

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That's just crazy talk! What do you take two or three bikes with you to accomplish that?! Crazy talk I says!:skep:
 

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So let's paraphrase:

XC:

  • Shaves legs
  • Less then 6" ... (travel)
  • Little nuts
  • Weight Weenie
  • Training for racing
  • Speed/time concious
  • Thinks about things like Cadence
  • Drinks water in the parking lot

AM:
  • Hairy Legs
  • Heavy bikes
  • At least 6" ... (travel)
  • All Balls
  • 3 1/2 hours for 12 mi....who gives a sh1t
  • Riding so they can drink more beer w/o gaining weight
  • Thinks about things like that chick that just rode by
  • Drinks beer in the parking lot

Jk...on a serious note I think I get it. Seems like XC guys are more in the "lifestyle" and are training, concerned about weight and speed. Therefore super technical stuff doesn't really fit in. Nor does the heavy bike that makes the ride comfy. The AM guys are out just for a good time...to ride. Who cares how heavy your bike is or how long it takes to get to the top cuz your just out to have a good time. I guess I fall into the AM range. I think about speed and getting in shape but for no reason other than for me. I could care less about winning a race. I just want to have fun and hang out with cool people. If my new handlebars are heavier then the ones I have now, but are more comfortable...who cares. I guess I will get stronger going up the hill now, or on a positve note, I will go faster down the hill now that I weigh more!
 

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mtb_g33k said:
AM:
  • Hairy Legs
  • Heavy bikes
  • At least 6" ... (travel)
  • All Balls
  • 3 1/2 hours for 12 mi....who gives a sh1t
  • Riding so they can drink more beer w/o gaining weight
  • Thinks about things like that chick that just rode by
  • Drinks beer in the parking lot
At first I took your question as troll went for fishing, especially after all ugly discussions on the same subject that flooded this forums. But now I'm quite impress, this is the best list to define AM I have seen, and no kidding here. :thumbsup:
 
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