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I have an old 2007 Mojo that came with the mid compression tune rp23. I'm looking to buy something else. I like the fact that the cane creek cloud 9 is easily serviceable as I live in Australia and the dealers here charge a lot for service. I was also looking at the X-Fusion 02-RC since it is available here. Has anybody used these shocks or got any opinions.
 

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rockshox monarch 4.2 work well, and are a affordable option mate........ I'd still stick with the fox rp23 or a rl model
 

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What is the reason for wanting a new shock? Is it because you're unhappy with the RP23? Or just curiosity? UGI?
 

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ddraewwg said:
What is the reason for wanting a new shock? Is it because you're unhappy with the RP23? Or just curiosity? UGI?
A little bit of both. I'm unhappy with rp23 because it is an older mid tune shock and I'm curious to see how something else might work. I read your review of your pushed shock and it sounds great. I just can't get my head around spending that much money to tune a shock. Here in Australia it would cost over $500.00 to have it done. For that kind of money I could buy the X-fusion RC and the Cane Creek Cloud Nine.
 

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A little bit of both. I'm unhappy with rp23 because it is an older mid tune shock and I'm curious to see how something else might work. I read your review of your pushed shock and it sounds great. I just can't get my head around spending that much money to tune a shock. Here in Australia it would cost over $500.00 to have it done. For that kind of money I could buy the X-fusion RC and the Cane Creek Cloud Nine.
That does seem like a lot of money.
However the other shock options might not be as good, and in the end you could up sending the RP23 to PUSH anyway. So what would have been $500 is now $800-$900. Though you'll have a second shock just in case.
 

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Short of completely changing shock the push option for the rp23 is the by far the best.
It is worth noting that DW bikes need a different tune to std (much has been written about it by BOS Cane Creek with respect to their coil options) so it is safe to assume that the same would go for the Cloud Nine and x Fusion so you would probably be charged for a custom tune.

If Push is expensive in Oz then see what the Fox dealer can do. Here in the UK, Mojo do DW specific custom tunes irrespective of whether the shock was low comp and rebound or not. I suspect they address the same ares as Push. However, even simply setting the unit up for you weight and riding style will be an improvement.
 

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Thanks for the replies guys. I think I might buy the cane creek as I can get one for a little over $200US and it has compression and rebound adjusters and can be easily user serviced. If it turns out to be a dud then I'll get the rp23 pushed and still have a shock while the rp23 is away.
 

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I seem to remember an older thread about DW himself commenting on how well he likes the Monarch.

I did a quick search and couldn't find it. Hope I'm not getting senile and remembering things wrong. :confused:
 

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d3toid said:
Thanks for the replies guys. I think I might buy the cane creek as I can get one for a little over $200US and it has compression and rebound adjusters and can be easily user serviced. If it turns out to be a dud then I'll get the rp23 pushed and still have a shock while the rp23 is away.
The CC Cloud 9 has a more linear spring rate than most air shocks, by having a secondary chamber the compression air flow damper bleeds into. This may allow it bottom too easily on the Mojo.

I'll suggest a couple things...

Talk with CC about the spring rate. If it is not very progressive in spring rate like other air shocks, it might not be a good match and bottom too easily for the Mojo's falling rate suspension leverage.

And talk with Fox service to see if they can do a rebuild with the lower compression internal valving. This would most likely be better than a CC Cloud 9, and may cost less too. Fox service in the US is fairly generically and normally does not do the high end custom tuning PUSH or TF Tuned (PUSH's partner in England) does to the internals of shocks. Maybe Fox racing department does limited custom work, something similar as PUSH in upgrade in damper and seal quality specific to a rider's use, I don't know.
 

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The CC Cloud 9 has a more linear spring rate than most air shocks, by having a secondary chamber the compression air flow damper bleeds into. This may allow it bottom too easily on the Mojo.
I've used the Cloud Nine on my MkIII and my old '04 Hollowpoint. I've been very happy with it on both bikes. The compression damping adjustment is very effective at controlling bottom-out, and, better still, the amount of damping increases the further you get into the stroke. So it's nice and plush at and near the sag point, but provides good bottom-out control later in the stroke. Both the compression and rebound adjustments have a very wide range. You can make a C-9 equipped bike feel like a pogo stick, but you can also set it so that it takes a number of seconds to completely rebound. Obviously, neither of these extremes is desirable. I mention this because this shock must be adjusted for the bike and rider. It's not like some shocks that have such a limited range of adjustment with changes so subtle that you can't really go wrong no matter how it's set.

That said, I recently built up a Mojo for my wife with a mid-compression tuned RP23. (It's a used frame that I purchased off of ebay.) Obviously, since it's her bike, I have no idea what it feels like, but when she gets back from a ride, the travel indicator O-ring shows me that she's used most of the travel. That would suggest to me that it's not over-damped. (I've used an RP3 on my Hollowpoint. That shock was overdamped, compression-wise, even in the wide open setting.)
 

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A little bit of both. I'm unhappy with rp23 because it is an older mid tune shock and I'm curious to see how something else might work. I read your review of your pushed shock and it sounds great. I just can't get my head around spending that much money to tune a shock. Here in Australia it would cost over $500.00 to have it done. For that kind of money I could buy the X-fusion RC and the Cane Creek Cloud Nine.
Hmmmm.....wow. Don't know what to say. I'm shocked that it'd be $500!!!! That's ridiculous. The mod is good.....not that good! Maybe see if Ibis can help you out on this too. I traded my High compression tune for the Med for no cost...maybe they'll swap the Med for a Low. If it's a relatively low cost....like shipping and maybe some minor upgrade charge, it could be worth it. I mean...as far as factory tuned shocks go, which the X fusion or Cane Creek 9 are, you might as well see if the "correct" RP23 offers suitable performance advantages over the Med.
 

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Another reason why I was looking for something else is that my RP23 has always made a squeaking noise when the propedal is turned on and I could never convice the LBS and the Aus importer to do anything about it, so I lost a bit trust in the Aus importer and they are the people that do the push tuning here. The mechanic at the LBS just suggested that it might be a manufacturing burr on some part. Since I don't really use the propedal much I could sort of put up with it.

I think I may just get it pushed but I'm a little worried about the shock having other problems in the long term.
 

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I tried the cloud 9 on my 2007 mojo back when I purchased them and as much as I liked it on my GF sugar race it felt way too soft on the mojo. The guys at Ibis did not recommend either back then. I now have the DHX 5 Air and I love it!
 
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