One word: Heckler!
Built up right it will be a very good climber and bomb down hills at mach 10.
I'm gonna catch slack for this (and maybe rightfully so), but my thought is this: If you're going to spend that much $ on a bike, why get a frame that has the undesirable braking and pedaling characteristics that a single pivot suspension bike like the Heckler has?
And I know that there are lots (and lots) of riders who are on Hecklers and have no issues and love them and all that. And I know that the frames I listed up above include SP models (although by all accounts the Turners and Ventanas are very well behaved SP's).
The other thing is, with the upgrades that I'd want, the Heckler is not as cheap as on might initially. Let me put it this way.
Heckler frame: $1050
Anodized Finish: $100 (personally, I'd want the more durable finish)
DHX coil upgrade: $135 (a mandatory upgrade, the stock Float R is useless to a larger clyde)
Another couple of hundred bucks and you've got yourself a Supermoto.
(Edit: I did that initial calculation off of Speedgoat's
numbers. I do see that the frame is available anodized and with a Swinger 4-way coil for around $1000 on the SC website
. That actually sounds like a pretty good deal.)
I realize that I'm bashing the Heckler a bit here, and I also don't have a leg to stand on because I've never even ridden one
. But in my searching I've had lots of people (on these forums, other riders on the trail, my LBS) tell me that the Heckler is a great bike. But when pressed, they all say the same thing: there is (occasionally significant) pedal feedback and some brake jack as well. Those are descriptions from those who've ridden the bike, not me.
And if this bike performs so well, why have I not even seen one in person? Maybe I don't get out enough, but I haven't seen one on my local trails. My LBS, who, when I inquired about the Nomad, told me that the Heckler would be a better choice. But they didn't even have one in stock (and still don't) despite that fact that they are the area's only SC dealer.
So, for me personally, I'm not sold (at all) on the Heckler. Not that anyone asked or that it's even my thread
I just though I'd share my twisted reasoning with the OP.
BTW: If anyone has a Heckler that I could test ride let me know.