[SuperWookie]

Hey everyone, I'm going to try out a different front tire soon and just need some assistance understanding some things about these tires (VERY confusing).

I'm currently on a Magic Mary 2.4 width 29" Super Trail Soft up front and a Big Beatty 2.4 width 29" Super Gravity Soft in the back. No complaints per say, but just want to try something different up front after hearing some local riders say how amazing the Assegai is for where we ride. Plus they said it was the wide version and since they put it on, they feel like they are getting a lot more traction on their front tire. Really able to push hard and carry speed through trickier corners.

I really didn't know when I bought these tires about the different widths and just got what I thought was normal (2.4). But after reading articles and talking to some local riders, a wider tire is better in almost every single way.

So I want to give the Assegai a try, but need some help with finding the right model as well as some other questions. Also up for suggestions on any other Front tire (in a super soft compound at 2.5-2.6 width for a 29" wheel with 30mm inside rims) that has insane grip and traction.

So first of all, what is the Maxxis equivalent to Schwalbe Super Trail casing? And what is the Maxxis equivalent to the Schwalbe Super Gravity casing? I see Maxxis has 3CT, 3CG, Exo, Exo+ Double Down, DH, etc etc. So just wondering what the equivalent Maxxis tire is to the Schwalbe Super Trail Soft? And same question for the Super Gravity Soft, what is the Maxxis equivalent? And then what would the equivalent tire be in Maxxis for a Schwalbe Super Gravity Ultra Soft?

Second, I'm wanting to try a wider tire (better grip, better rolling resistance, wider contact patch, lower pressure needed, etc), and see the Assegai comes in a 2.5, 2.5WT, and 2.6. According to Maxxis website, it says I should be using the Double Down or DH casing with the Maxxgrip compound if I'm riding Enduro or DH riding? But I can't seem to find those two parameters AND in a 2.6 width version? Are they just out of it, or do they not make a 2.6 width in DD or DH with Maxxgrip? And if they don't make it, then what is the difference in performance between the 2.5 and the 2.5WT? Or is there no difference? And will there be much difference between a Schwalbe 2.4 width tire and a Maxxis or other brand 2.5 width tire? Is that enough of a difference, or not really? Would I need to step up to a 2.6 to feel a noticeable difference?

Another question, are there any other front tires I should consider that offer insane traction in a 2.5-2.6 width other than the Assegai? EVERY time I see a review for the Assegai, they all say the same thing. "This tire has never ending amounts of grip." The local trails I ride are fast, steep, some big jumps, drops, fast berms, and sometimes some gnarly chunk. I'd even consider going with another Magic Mary in a wider softer version. But same thing on their site, I don't see a 2.6 width Magic Mary in the Ultra Soft compound 29"?! Are they out as well, or do these companies not make the 2.6 width aggressive tires in Ultra soft compounds? Which makes no sense to me. Wouldn't you want the widest/softest tire you could fit on your front? So you could get massive amounts of traction and cornering grip/speed?

And then last question, what is more important for grip/traction/keeping speed high through corners? Going from 2.4 width tire to a 2.6 width? Or going from Soft compound to Ultra soft compound?

Thanks

 

[ocnLogan]

The Maxxis equivalent to Super Trail, is EXO+.

The Maxxis equivalent to Super Gravity, is Double Down.

The Maxxis equivalent to Addix Soft, is MaxxTerra, The Maxxis equivalent of Addix Ultra Soft is MaxxGrip.

Broad strokes here, the Magic Mary is considered in the same class of tire as the Assegai, as a "lots and lots of traction" tire, that people usually use on the front. However, the Magic Mary and Assegai excel in slightly different conditions. The Assegai clogs with mud easily, and is usually more of a dry, to hero dirt conditions sort of tire. The Magic Mary is more open in its tread design, and therefore does better when the conditions get wetter/looser. There is some overlap of course, but broad strokes, thats an ok way to think about it.

Also, width is somewhat contested. I'd say there is a goldilocks width that is great for each rider, but that width might depend on the riders size, speed, and terrain. The TRUELY fast people out there (pros) don't appear to like tires as wide as 2.6in, presumably because they squirm more at speed. Most world cup downhill racers, race with 2.4, or 2.5in tires, if that helps you at all.

However, most of us are mere mortals, and are NOT that fast. So a higher volume tire might not have as many downsides, and may have more upsides. But its hard to just "know that" without any testing for each person.

And finally, Maxxis is known to have tires that are somewhat undersized. Their 2.5's and 2.6's aren't quite as large as some other brands. Scwhalbe used to be the opposite. Their old 2.35in Magic Marys used to measure almost 2.5in. But they appear to have gone to a more true to size rating system now, as their 2.4in MM is smaller than their old 2.35in version.

Personally, I'm quite happy with my 2.5in WTB Verdict out front.

 

[SuperWookie]

The Maxxis equivalent to Super Trail, is EXO+.

The Maxxis equivalent to Super Gravity, is Double Down.

The Maxxis equivalent to Addix Soft, is MaxxTerra, The Maxxis equivalent of Addix Ultra Soft is MaxxGrip.

Broad strokes here, the Magic Mary is considered in the same class of tire as the Assegai, as a "lots and lots of traction" tire, that people usually use on the front. However, the Magic Mary and Assegai excel in slightly different conditions. The Assegai clogs with mud easily, and is usually more of a dry, to hero dirt conditions sort of tire. The Magic Mary is more open in its tread design, and therefore does better when the conditions get wetter/looser. There is some overlap of course, but broad strokes, thats an ok way to think about it.

Also, width is somewhat contested. I'd say there is a goldilocks width that is great for each rider, but that width might depend on the riders size, speed, and terrain. The TRUELY fast people out there (pros) don't appear to like tires as wide as 2.6in, presumably because they squirm more at speed. Most world cup downhill racers, race with 2.4, or 2.5in tires, if that helps you at all.

However, most of us are mere mortals, and are NOT that fast. So a higher volume tire might not have as many downsides, and may have more upsides. But its hard to just "know that" without any testing for each person.

And finally, Maxxis is known to have tires that are somewhat undersized. Their 2.5's and 2.6's aren't quite as large as some other brands. Scwhalbe used to be the opposite. Their old 2.35in Magic Marys used to measure almost 2.5in. But they appear to have gone to a more true to size rating system now, as their 2.4in MM is smaller than their old 2.35in version.

Personally, I'm quite happy with my 2.5in WTB Verdict out front.

Thanks for that, VERY clear and concise, I really appreciate that!

And that last part agrees with what I "thought" I had read in the past, but couldn't remember. That Maxxis tires are a little smaller than what they say they are, and Scwalbe a bit bigger. But didn't know that their new tires are actually the correct width or slightly smaller though. Good to know.

So follow up, in your opinion, does a wider tire make more of a difference or a softer rubber compound for better cornering and traction in general?

 

[Cerberus75]

Thanks for that, VERY clear and concise, I really appreciate that!

And that last part agrees with what I "thought" I had read in the past, but couldn't remember. That Maxxis tires are a little smaller than what they say they are, and Scwalbe a bit bigger. But didn't know that their new tires are actually the correct width or slightly smaller though. Good to know.

So follow up, in your opinion, does a wider tire make more of a difference or a softer rubber compound for better cornering and traction in general?

Softer compound trumps width most the time. Maxxgrip will be much better than what .01 more width. I find the Assegai better in slick conditions. The Mary is better in muddy conditions. But the difference is more subtle. I haven't tried the new ones yet. But the Maxxis tires last longer.

 

[SuperWookie]

Softer compound trumps width most the time. Maxxgrip will be much better than what .01 more width. I find the Assegai better in slick conditions. The Mary is better in muddy conditions. But the difference is more subtle. I haven't tried the new ones yet. But the Maxxis tires last longer.

Cool, thanks!

And yeah, I've read the Assegai is the best for Hero to Dry condition dirt and MM a bit better for Hero to somewhat wet dirt. But that's splitting hairs for normal riders like myself. I'm sure either tire would be just fine for me and wouldn't notice a huge difference just between the tread patterns.

I'm also still experimenting with trying to find the best tire pressure combo F/R as well as fork settings for the best traction and stability. I recently started using more fork air spring pressure and less rebound and compression and it's NIGHT and DAY better!

So now I'm also messing with tire pressure to see what feels and works the best. I was at the bottom of the acceptable range when I first started riding this bike. I was around 21 F 23 R. But after talking with a bunch of people on here and getting some good advice, they advised I try much higher psi for my weight, height, bike and trails. So I tried 30 F 32 R, which was good for the smooth jump trails, but not good for the rougher DH type trails. So now each time I ride, I'm trying 1-2 psi less in the front and rear, as well as a larger split between front and rear. Since the front is where I'm having the most traction issues, if/when I have them. So at this point I'm running 24 F 27 R now and it's starting to feel a lot better! Along with the changes I made in my fork setup. It's crazy how a firmer air spring, but less compression and faster rebound helps the fork feel better in almost every way! The only place where it's not quite as good is the first inch or so of travel. It's harsher for sure, and small to medium bumps at speed are felt harsher in my hands. But it offers WAY more traction, way more stability and doesn't dive in berms or jumps. Plus feels like it has more travel. It's crazy how much better it feels now. Plus it just feels quicker something like that. Read this amazing discussion about Spring Pressure vs Compression and which is more important, and it turns out most pros and good riders almost always have more spring pressure, less compression and faster rebound than what most regular riders would use. And that a lot of the top suspension techs say that adding more spring pressure, dropping some compression and speeding up the rebound will help almost all riders have a better performing fork.

But still looking for that perfect or best traction up front. And since where I ride mostly has harder clay soil with looser dirt and different sizes of rocks on top, I thought the Assegai would do better. Also wanted to experiment with either a wider or softer tire to see if it helps provide more traction. When I switched my rear tire from the Hans Dampf to the Big Beaty, it was NIGHT AND DAY better. So I was thinking either a wider or softer tire would help give the front end more traction. And sure as sh*t, a few weeks ago, I overheard some locals that ride really well saying they recently took off their MM's and tried out an Assegai and it's a lot better traction. So thought I'd give it a whirl as well. Good to know that softer is way more important than wider. Thanks for your help guys!

 

[ocnLogan]

To be fair

Cool, thanks!

And yeah, I've read the Assegai is the best for Hero to Dry condition dirt and MM a bit better for Hero to somewhat wet dirt. But that's splitting hairs for normal riders like myself. I'm sure either tire would be just fine for me and wouldn't notice a huge difference just between the tread patterns.

I'm also still experimenting with trying to find the best tire pressure combo F/R as well as fork settings for the best traction and stability. I recently started using more fork air spring pressure and less rebound and compression and it's NIGHT and DAY better!

So now I'm also messing with tire pressure to see what feels and works the best. I was at the bottom of the acceptable range when I first started riding this bike. I was around 21 F 23 R. But after talking with a bunch of people on here and getting some good advice, they advised I try much higher psi for my weight, height, bike and trails. So I tried 30 F 32 R, which was good for the smooth jump trails, but not good for the rougher DH type trails. So now each time I ride, I'm trying 1-2 psi less in the front and rear, as well as a larger split between front and rear. Since the front is where I'm having the most traction issues, if/when I have them. So at this point I'm running 24 F 27 R now and it's starting to feel a lot better! Along with the changes I made in my fork setup. It's crazy how a firmer air spring, but less compression and faster rebound helps the fork feel better in almost every way! The only place where it's not quite as good is the first inch or so of travel. It's harsher for sure, and small to medium bumps at speed are felt harsher in my hands. But it offers WAY more traction, way more stability and doesn't dive in berms or jumps. Plus feels like it has more travel. It's crazy how much better it feels now. Plus it just feels quicker something like that. Read this amazing discussion about Spring Pressure vs Compression and which is more important, and it turns out most pros and good riders almost always have more spring pressure, less compression and faster rebound than what most regular riders would use. And that a lot of the top suspension techs say that adding more spring pressure, dropping some compression and speeding up the rebound will help almost all riders have a better performing fork.

But still looking for that perfect or best traction up front. And since where I ride mostly has harder clay soil with looser dirt and different sizes of rocks on top, I thought the Assegai would do better. Also wanted to experiment with either a wider or softer tire to see if it helps provide more traction. When I switched my rear tire from the Hans Dampf to the Big Beaty, it was NIGHT AND DAY better. So I was thinking either a wider or softer tire would help give the front end more traction. And sure as sh*t, a few weeks ago, I overheard some locals that ride really well saying they recently took off their MM's and tried out an Assegai and it's a lot better traction. So thought I'd give it a whirl as well. Good to know that softer is way more important than wider. Thanks for your help guys!

Any chance your "not enough traction up front" feeling is coming because of weight distribution, and not tires?

I've fought that feeling for years with my current bike. Initially when I got the bike, I put on a 38mm riser bar to help with fit, which was great. Less great though, was that with the really short stem, and new taller bars, I was having a hard time weighting the front of the bike correctly. So I installed a 15mm longer stem, and actually went back to the old lower rise bars, which helped get me over the front a bit more.

The other piece of the puzzle for ME, was finding a tire that worked for my conditions. I actually went from a dual compound (maxxis harder compound) 2.3in DHF, to a light/high grip WTB Vigilante in 2.6in width, looking for grip just like you. For me, the problem was that my Vigilante was WAY over size (2.73in), and my rims were not wide enough (29mm), so the profile wasn't good, and I couldn't engage the side knobs correctly. Now that I'm on a 2.5in Verdict (which is exactly 2.5in), the tire profile is better, and I find myself cornering better than I did before.

If you're having issues with front end traction with a 2.4in soft MM, then I do think its worth trying a 2.5in Maxxgrip Assegai, as if you're mostly doing drier stuff, then the Assegai is really the king of that sort of traction (even though the MM is still quite good... most seem to agree the Assegai is better in drier conditions). But it might be worth thinking about bike setup some more too, if you baven't already.

 

[jeremy3220]

2.6" in Maxxis's lineup is like a half plus tire. They're for higher volume lighter duty applications. Racers generally run 2.3-2.5" tires so that's why you don't see DH 2.6" tires from most brands.

 

[JK-47]

@SuperWookie Good to hear you’re starting to come to GRIPS with your setup, and trying things out in the wild. There’s some really great advice in this thread.

It’s mentioned in a few threads that buying tires in Germany can save you considerable $$$. For the most part they ring in at 35-50% off the prices here. Even with shipping you end up saving, and buying a few sets of a favorite tire is wise in these trying times.

I’ve had good success with bike24 when ordering Magura parts and other goodies. Not so much with bike-components. However YMMV…

 

[Cary]

The Maxxis equivalent to Super Trail, is EXO+.

The Maxxis equivalent to Super Gravity, is Double Down.

The Maxxis equivalent to Addix Soft, is MaxxTerra, The Maxxis equivalent of Addix Ultra Soft is MaxxGrip.

Broad strokes here, the Magic Mary is considered in the same class of tire as the Assegai, as a "lots and lots of traction" tire, that people usually use on the front. However, the Magic Mary and Assegai excel in slightly different conditions. The Assegai clogs with mud easily, and is usually more of a dry, to hero dirt conditions sort of tire. The Magic Mary is more open in its tread design, and therefore does better when the conditions get wetter/looser. There is some overlap of course, but broad strokes, thats an ok way to think about it.

Also, width is somewhat contested. I'd say there is a goldilocks width that is great for each rider, but that width might depend on the riders size, speed, and terrain. The TRUELY fast people out there (pros) don't appear to like tires as wide as 2.6in, presumably because they squirm more at speed. Most world cup downhill racers, race with 2.4, or 2.5in tires, if that helps you at all.

However, most of us are mere mortals, and are NOT that fast. So a higher volume tire might not have as many downsides, and may have more upsides. But its hard to just "know that" without any testing for each person.

And finally, Maxxis is known to have tires that are somewhat undersized. Their 2.5's and 2.6's aren't quite as large as some other brands. Scwhalbe used to be the opposite. Their old 2.35in Magic Marys used to measure almost 2.5in. But they appear to have gone to a more true to size rating system now, as their 2.4in MM is smaller than their old 2.35in version.

Personally, I'm quite happy with my 2.5in WTB Verdict out front.

This. A couple of additional things:

1) Rim width and tire matching. I have run 2.6 tires on 30mm rims and 35mm internal width rims. I have not been happy with them on 30mm internal rims, they need more pressure to keep the sidewalls supported, which defeats the purpose. (I am finding current Magic Mary's measuring a true 2.6 casing width and the Big Betty to be 2.4 on a 35mm internal. Same for the Hans Dampf and Nobby Nic.)
2) Conditions- What tire will have the most traction is condition dependent. The Magic Mary has amazing traction in loam and loose conditions, under hardpack conditions, the knobs will fold if pushed hard enough. I view the Magic Mary and Assegai as interchangeable for most use.
3) Tire Age- Anytime an old tire is replaced with a new tire (even the same model), you will experience an increase in traction. Sharp fresh edges have more traction than worn and rounded treads. Unless someone is comparing tires back to back that are fresh, claims that XXX tire is so much better than YYY tire should be treated skeptically. Now, if the person replaced an old tire and finds the new one has no traction, then the new one probably has less traction for the conditions used.

Unless the tires you are currently running are wrong for your conditions, changing is not going to give you any significant traction increase and may give less traction.

 

[ehfour]

10 posts till someone mentions DHF for a great front tire with grip for days

Avoid the Assegai in anything less than Maxxgrip- it has an odd rebound resonance that will make the front free skittish

 

[plummet]

I'm currently running max grip minion dhf 2.5 3c exo casing. I dont have too many rocks so a dh casing is not generally required. Plus I ride/carry/push most rides so some efficiency and weight savings is of benefit.

Next step up is to dh casing super tacky minion to the rear. Then dual super tack dh casings front and rear.. for ultimate park smashing when its steep an there's 100% shuttle.

I have more wet that super dry so the assgay not the go around here.

Note. Each time you step up grip you increase rolling resistance and make your bike feel more like a tank.

If you have to pedal then its worth striking a compromise between grip and efficiency. Eg run exo casing on the front, max terra compound on the back.......

It's also worth noting that in good, dry, loamy and rocky conditions there is little noticable difference in grip between max grip and max terra. Grip difference is noticable in the wet!.....

Lastly, if you go for full dh casing, full super tacky you will find times when that combo is slower and less fun to ride than lighter less grip tires..... it has to be quite gnarly before the dh casing max grip option yields faster results.

 

[minimusprime]

10 posts till someone mentions DHF for a great front tire with grip for days

Avoid the Assegai in anything less than Maxxgrip- it has an odd rebound resonance that will make the front free skittish

Not my experience. IMO, a maxxterra assegai is superior to a maxxterra dhf for front grip and consistency, although it needs 1-2 less psi then the dhf to feel secure. Maxxgrip is superior across the board, but the assegai vs dhf comparison is still true for me in maxxgrip.

It's also worth noting that in good, dry, loamy and rocky conditions there is little noticable difference in grip between max grip and max terra. Grip difference is noticable in the wet!.....

Lastly, if you go for full dh casing, full super tacky you will find times when that combo is slower and less fun to ride than lighter less grip tires..... it has to be quite gnarly before the dh casing max grip option yields faster results.

Everyone's terrain is different... but in our socal, dry, rocky, loose conditions, the maxxgrip is significantly more grippy then the maxxterra. I do agree on the dh tires though, I need to be able to let the bike fly and ride mach chicken on steeps that are typically steeper then most bike parks have, for a maxxgrip dh tire to be worth it. Otherwise it feels like i'm pedaling into jumps and struggling to maintain rolling speed.

 

[plummet]

Not my experience. IMO, a maxxterra assegai is superior to a maxxterra dhf for front grip and consistency, although it needs 1-2 less psi then the dhf to feel secure. Maxxgrip is superior across the board, but the assegai vs dhf comparison is still true for me in maxxgrip.



Everyone's terrain is different... but in our socal, dry, rocky, loose conditions, the maxxgrip is significantly more grippy then the maxxterra. I do agree on the dh tires though, I need to be able to let the bike fly and ride mach chicken on steeps that are typically steeper then most bike parks have, for a maxxgrip dh tire to be worth it. Otherwise it feels like i'm pedaling into jumps and struggling to maintain rolling speed.

Fair enough. I want to know more about riding at "mach chicken" speeds.

 

[rain164845]

Fair enough. I want to know more about riding at "mach chicken" speeds.

Don't use the brake levers despite the fear.

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[maynard4130]

WTB vigilante 2.6

 

[Cerberus75]

To be fair


Any chance your "not enough traction up front" feeling is coming because of weight distribution, and not tires?

I've fought that feeling for years with my current bike. Initially when I got the bike, I put on a 38mm riser bar to help with fit, which was great. Less great though, was that with the really short stem, and new taller bars, I was having a hard time weighting the front of the bike correctly. So I installed a 15mm longer stem, and actually went back to the old lower rise bars, which helped get me over the front a bit more.

The other piece of the puzzle for ME, was finding a tire that worked for my conditions. I actually went from a dual compound (maxxis harder compound) 2.3in DHF, to a light/high grip WTB Vigilante in 2.6in width, looking for grip just like you. For me, the problem was that my Vigilante was WAY over size (2.73in), and my rims were not wide enough (29mm), so the profile wasn't good, and I couldn't engage the side knobs correctly. Now that I'm on a 2.5in Verdict (which is exactly 2.5in), the tire profile is better, and I find myself cornering better than I did before.

If you're having issues with front end traction with a 2.4in soft MM, then I do think its worth trying a 2.5in Maxxgrip Assegai, as if you're mostly doing drier stuff, then the Assegai is really the king of that sort of traction (even though the MM is still quite good... most seem to agree the Assegai is better in drier conditions). But it might be worth thinking about bike setup some more too, if you baven't already.

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^

If you're riding a Magic Mary on anything other than mud and wet leaves over previous mossy rocks) think really greasy) than it's probably posture. Think chin over stem all the time. You might need a longer stem or roll the bars a little forward. But the biggest mistake made when new is getting behind the bars.

 

[Nat]

I have both the Assegai 2.5 Double Down and the Magic Mary 2.4 Super Gravity. To echo what you've already read, the Assegai excels in dry and loose conditions. The Magic Mary is better than the Assegai in wet and sloppy. The Schwalbe tire has more pronounce knobs and I think they just fold over more easily.

When you put the two tires up to each other the Maxxis is visibly larger.

I have a Kenda Hellkat 2.6 and for enduro/DH riding it's too bouncy and thin-walled. It's great for flotation in soft dust as long as you don't expect to go DH speeds. For the type of riding that you like to do you don’t want a 2.6. Although they’re higher volume they also have light duty casings. They’d be ridiculously heavy if they came in a DH casing so that’s why you haven’t been able to find them.

30+ psi is really abnormally high despite what Dougal says.

Cush Core will let you drop a few pounds of pressure and increases sidewall support, which improves cornering. It also protects the rim from damage (rather than cause it, despite what Dougal says).

Summary: If you want to try an Assegai (and based upon good reviews from your local riders you should), then I'd say you want a 29x2.5WT Double Down MaxxGrip with CushCore Pro insert. Start at 25psi front/28psi rear and adjust from there.

 

[cookieMonster]

Disclaimer— I’ve never tried an Assegai, but might try one mid-summer this season when it’s dry. Most of our trails have a lot of clay and I worry about how tight the Assegai’s knob placement is for the wet seasons.

A lot of the trails I ride have a pretty soft, loamy surface with some roots and rocks, and most of the time a very knobby tire with bigger spacing (Magic Mary, hint hint) excels if not wipes the floor with most Maxxis tires.*

*The Shorty is an amazing tire in the same conditions.

With the Shorty and MM, it doesn’t matter if the conditions are wet or dry; powder, even— they hook up in soft conditions like nothing else.

Now, if the tread is packed, Minions and the Assegai get the upper hand. Don’t overlook the DHR II up front. I ran one on the front of my hardtail for the latter half of last season and it never let me down.

Really, you just need to analyze whether your trails are primarily soft or primarily hardpacked.

If soft, go MM, Shorty, WTB Verdict or Vigilante

If hard, go Assegai, or Minions.

I like 2.6s on my hardtail, but prefer 2.4-2.5s on my enduro bike. Maxxgrip or Schwalbe Ultra Soft up front at all times.

 

[Gman7]

Fully agree with @cookieMonster on his experience with the Schwalbe MM. I ran the 29 x 2.4 evo sg early in the 2021 season as a front tire and they are phenomenal in soft wet conditions, but the western NC granite chewed it up in short order. Once the tread blocks were rounded they started to push through the corners especially on loose over hard pack. I switched back to DHF exo maxxgrip, which seem to give me better performance and life on red clay soil while still acceptable in soft wet conditions. The bike was originally equipped with Assegai 2.5 DD’s but the tires had noticeably more pedal resistance than both MM or the DHF. Also, I do more trail riding these days so I didn’t want the added heft of the DD casing, which came in at 1340 grams in the 29 x 2.5 WT size.

 

[Cary]

WTB vigilante 2.6

2.5. That 2.6 should be called a 2.8!