A little unhappy to see so many riding sloppy trails

I'm a little unhappy to see people who can't drive 65.

Get over yourself.

Agreed. I love reading about good rides, but then I do the math and realise that in many places its much too muddy to ride, yet it doesn't stop people from riding them. Please be considerate everyone. We are always so quick to point out the wrongs of others, but what about the wrongs we do?

is this a joke?

If you whine about muddy trails you should instantly *POOF* be transformed into a road rider. Can we get the board set-up to do that? You instantly have a login and account to the road riding forum, all association to mountain biking vanishes! No MTBR login, not allowed to establish a login/account, and your pristine and clean mountain bike that never has gotten muddy instantly turns into a narrow, 135 psi tire having over geared shiny sub 18 pound 'bike', and oh yeah, your hair invisibly disappears from your legs, and every cycling related piece of clothing is skin tight and a size too small at that.

I am going to go ride in the effin mud now. I won't see you there OP!!!!

Yea I believe the general rule is to wait at least 24hrs after a rain to go ride. I wanted to go out today but I know better to ruin the trail that supports my riding.

What would we do in the UK if we couldn't ride wet trails, never stops raining here!

A little balance is needed here, me thinks... Clearly its up to the rider to decide what is ridable and not, but if your tires are leaving huge grooves in singletrack, might be time to head for the fireroad.

Thank you Pliebenberg, thats a much more effective way of saying it!

Finally someone that GETS IT!

pliebenberg said:

There are some posters to this thread that are too high on whatever their gonads are producing to hear what the OP is saying---which I'll re-word as: "for the sake of the trails (and access to them), stay off of them when it's too wet".

Just because you can ride in an area, does't mean you should ride in an area!

A lot of time is spent on these forums complaining about how horses, etc tear up trails---when bikers tear them up and them brag about it only comes down bad on the whole MTB community.

Shame on you! (but I can tell already that you don't give a $hit)

FWIW; I think riding in the mud is a blast---let's see; I got my first taste of mud back in 1965 when I got my first moto. Since then; I could probably list 3 or 4 dozen riding areas in NorCal that have been closed due to user abuse.:madmax:

Have a nice day...

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Tire grooves are good

Reposado Man said:

A little balance is needed here, me thinks... Clearly its up to the rider to decide what is ridable and not, but if your tires are leaving huge grooves in singletrack, might be time to head for the fireroad.

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Eventually turns and dries out said mud. Just be sure to ride straight thru puddles! Just like when we were kids. How quickly we forget.

JMac47 said:

Eventually turns and dries out said mud.

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True, except on grades where tire tracks channel the runoff and deep ruts can form.

Exactly.... Too be honest, I see way more damage done during the dry days when every Tom, Dick, and Harry are riding too fast, leaving the existing trail, brake bumps, etc. Ride when you want to. "oh no, it just rained" ...too funny. Flame on. I don't care. I'm riding when others don't.

Imo

I don't think the fire roads are bothered by some tracks. I would agree to stay off trails that get damaged or erode away like a single track. But a nice ride on snow and slush up a fire trail like I did today is a real treat leaving only temporary cosmetic effects. :thumbsup:

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I don't think the fire roads are bothered by some tracks. I would agree to stay off trails that get damaged or erode away like a single track. But a nice ride on snow and slush up a fire trail like I did today is a real treat leaving only temporary cosmetic effects. :thumbsup:

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Have to agree, especially those f/r's that get their maintenance from a motor grader or a tractor.

this thread is very entertaining, Lets keep it going LMAO

sparkyJay said:

Have to agree, especially those f/r's that get their maintenance from a motor grader or a tractor.

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Yup the entire place I ride including the famous Dog meat downhill at Sierra Azul gets graded. Yesterday and Today's snow slush mud rides were epic ! especially on a SS. Gonna b sore from those ! :band:

OP has good point,

too bad 500,000 crazy people driving in CA without license. My family member died on roadbike, I sold mine, and ride in rain in mud at night. Sorry folks, I feel so bad about it I started doing trail work. In the late 80's I rode China Camp for 2 winters all the time. I did not ruin trails. Now, in 2011 too many riders (limited trails actually) and WIDE ruts. That should piss you off. Stay on trails and chip in 2 days a year. Downhill guys scar side of hills toward towns-30,000 people see those ruts- and you ***** at us for riding in the mud? Get a roadbike. But I do understand you're anger about lack of trail maintenance.

To the OP. Serious question. Are you talking about specific trails you know about that were ridden in the rain, while they were really soft, or are you just generalizing given all the riding that was posted and took place in the past 1-3 days?

A lot of us on this board would side with you about staying off trails during or right after the rain. I haven't seen any/much posting about people riding sensitive trails. I know in my area, all the FRs are typically made of decomposed granite, and have no issues with rain water and tire tracks. I know of very few ST rides during the past few days.

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To the OP. Serious question. Are you talking about specific trails you know about that were ridden in the rain, while they were really soft, or are you just generalizing given all the riding that was posted and took place in the past 1-3 days?

A lot of us on this board would side with you about staying off trails during or right after the rain. I haven't seen any/much posting about people riding sensitive trails. I know in my area, all the FRs are typically made of decomposed granite, and have no issues with rain water and tire tracks. I know of very few ST rides during the past few days.

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And on top of that, most trails that are susceptible to major erosion during the wet season-Quicksilver and STCP come to mind-are closed anyhow… so if people are riding on closed trails, then they are being ******bags.