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Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.1 Review

I had a chance this week to put about 40 miles on my Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.1 tires this past week. Some trails have finally opened last week so I finally had a chance to test these tires and my Xclusive frame (review later this weekend.).

So here is a small review on them.

Mounting:

I mounted these up using Tubeless using sealant. The tires at first were very hard to get aired up on a Mavic 819 UST rim. The bead would not come out of the channel and lock against the sidewall with a floor up or CO2. So I mounted a tube in each wheel and let sit for 30 min.

After 30 min I removed each tube and proceeded to add sealant to each tire. With a little straight dishwashing soap against the beads with some water sprayed on lightly, the tires aired up and popped into place with my floor pump. The tires leaked very little sealant any where and held 40 psi for 36 hrs with no air loss :).

The tires look like a nice 2.1 and about the same size as the Racing Ralph 2.1

Ride review:

The trail I rode has a mixture of everything you can throw at us down here but sugar sand (hardpack, small crushed coral rock, loam over hardpack and some nice gooey to soupy mud.)
The tire were pumped up to 36 psi up front and 42 psi in the rear for my 165lbs. The pressure could be dropped slightly, but I wanted to get a feel for the pressure and not to go too low. (When I tried 32/36 psi in my Blue Grooves, I flat spotted my Crossmax in the rear.)

The tires kick some serious butt!!! :D
The traction in the front is very nice. On hardpack they rolled smoothly and turning and steering over lose rock and loam is exceptional. Going downhill on the crushed rock over hardpack, I has able to steer and pick lines with no fear of washing out or loosing grip.

The rear rolls very fast and again, traction a rolling resistance is exceptional. Going uphill and standing, the tires gave me no wheel spin. I grip the rocks nice and just kept me climbing.

The Nics seem fine in the mud that i was going through. This mud did not have a sticky like tar substance that I find on some trail here that will pack up almost any tire once you hit the bone dry dirt. the tires shed this soupy, thick clayish mud pretty darn well. Once I hit the hardpack and fire roads, the tire were all but clean.

With the trails being slight wet from puddles I has a little worried about slipping on the roots. No issues what so ever. Even going slightly sideways over the wet roots and fallen logs, tractions was fine. Not as sticky as some of the Kenda line, but good enough.

Rolling resistance seems pretty good. The tires rolled very nice on the tarmac and fire roads with a little hum coming from them due to the knobs.

I felt confident and had grip and rr everywhere I need to. At no time did these tires fail me!!

Overall view:

My favorite tires for our local trails in order:
  1. The Hutchinson Mosquito F/R, Mosquito up front with a Python in the rear. The new Bulldog is close to the Mosquito.
  2. The Schwalbe Big Jim 2.25 with a 2.1 Jimmy or 2.1 RR in back.
  3. Hutchinson Bull Dog 2.1/Python 2.0
  4. KENDA Blue Groove 2.0 LITE-DTC
But I now have to say the the Schwalbe Nobby Nic is now the best ever tires overall that i have used. There was nothing that the trails offered the the Nobby Nics could not handle.

I look forward to riding them up front with a Racing Ralph 2.1 in back.
I am also looking to go with a 2.25 NN up front for just a little more bit and size.

The Nobby Nics in 1.8, 2.1, 2.25 and 2.4 will be available in the US readily in January 2006. The 1.8, 2.1 and 2.25 will also be available in UST.
 

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Side walls of the non UST's?

Do the side walls look like they'l last in rocky terrain in the non-UST's ridden tubeless?
I'm trying to decide whether to buy the UST version or just run the normals tubeles.
 

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DIRT BOY said:
Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.1 Review

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[/b]My favorite tires for our local trails in order:
  1. The Hutchinson Mosquito F/R, Mosquito up front with a Python in the rear. The new Bulldog is close to the Mosquito.
  2. The Schwalbe Big Jim 2.25 with a 2.1 Jimmy or 2.1 RR in back.
  3. Hutchinson Bull Dog 2.1/Python 2.0
  4. KENDA Blue Groove 2.0 LITE-DTC
But I now have to say the the Schwalbe Nobby Nic is now the best ever tires overall that i have used. There was nothing that the trails offered the the Nobby Nics could not handle.

I look forward to riding them up front with a Racing Ralph 2.1 in back.
I am also looking to go with a 2.25 NN up front for just a little more bit and size.

The Nobby Nics in 1.8, 2.1, 2.25 and 2.4 will be available in the US readily in January 2006. The 1.8, 2.1 and 2.25 will also be available in UST.
What size Mosquito do you like most for the front?
 

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coombs said:
Did you list the mass of these tires?
WHAT DO YOU MEAN??
 

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The 2.0 Front and rear...

I use to race with the 1.85 in back years ago...Gold versions my fav.
Never tried the 2.3, might be sweet up front.
 

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bike_freak said:
I think he means weight.. :confused:
Yeah, no weight. What's up with that, DB? :eek:

DB - is your review for the UST, or non-UST? Just curious. :confused:

Glad you've found an enjoyable tire. :)

PATIA!
 

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Weights were posted a few days ago...

Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.1 weights

These are the NON-UST models mounted up "tubeless" with sealeant.

The UST models won't be availaable in the US until January. I will get soem then and post a review and weights on those.
 

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Thanks DB.

Now for the questions. I was riding the Racing Ralphs and found that they were grabby in sand, at least on my bike. Made the front want to push. How do the Nobby Nic's compare in sand?

The raead looks a bit different from the Racing Ralph, and closer to Dirt Control's / IRC Mythos, and a bunch others that work better, for me, in sand.

Thanks!

JmZ

DIRT BOY said:
Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.1 Review

I had a chance this week to put about 40 miles on my Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.1 tires this past week. Some trails have finally opened last week so I finally had a chance to test these tires and my Xclusive frame (review later this weekend.).

So here is a small review on them.

Mounting:

I mounted these up using Tubeless using sealant. The tires at first were very hard to get aired up on a Mavic 819 UST rim. The bead would not come out of the channel and lock against the sidewall with a floor up or CO2. So I mounted a tube in each wheel and let sit for 30 min.

After 30 min I removed each tube and proceeded to add sealant to each tire. With a little straight dishwashing soap against the beads with some water sprayed on lightly, the tires aired up and popped into place with my floor pump. The tires leaked very little sealant any where and held 40 psi for 36 hrs with no air loss :).

The tires look like a nice 2.1 and about the same size as the Racing Ralph 2.1

Ride review:

The trail I rode has a mixture of everything you can throw at us down here but sugar sand (hardpack, small crushed coral rock, loam over hardpack and some nice gooey to soupy mud.)
The tire were pumped up to 36 psi up front and 42 psi in the rear for my 165lbs. The pressure could be dropped slightly, but I wanted to get a feel for the pressure and not to go too low. (When I tried 32/36 psi in my Blue Grooves, I flat spotted my Crossmax in the rear.)

The tires kick some serious butt!!! :D
The traction in the front is very nice. On hardpack they rolled smoothly and turning and steering over lose rock and loam is exceptional. Going downhill on the crushed rock over hardpack, I has able to steer and pick lines with no fear of washing out or loosing grip.

The rear rolls very fast and again, traction a rolling resistance is exceptional. Going uphill and standing, the tires gave me no wheel spin. I grip the rocks nice and just kept me climbing.

The Nics seem fine in the mud that i was going through. This mud did not have a sticky like tar substance that I find on some trail here that will pack up almost any tire once you hit the bone dry dirt. the tires shed this soupy, thick clayish mud pretty darn well. Once I hit the hardpack and fire roads, the tire were all but clean.

With the trails being slight wet from puddles I has a little worried about slipping on the roots. No issues what so ever. Even going slightly sideways over the wet roots and fallen logs, tractions was fine. Not as sticky as some of the Kenda line, but good enough.

Rolling resistance seems pretty good. The tires rolled very nice on the tarmac and fire roads with a little hum coming from them due to the knobs.

I felt confident and had grip and rr everywhere I need to. At no time did these tires fail me!!

Overall view:

My favorite tires for our local trails in order:
  1. The Hutchinson Mosquito F/R, Mosquito up front with a Python in the rear. The new Bulldog is close to the Mosquito.
  2. The Schwalbe Big Jim 2.25 with a 2.1 Jimmy or 2.1 RR in back.
  3. Hutchinson Bull Dog 2.1/Python 2.0
  4. KENDA Blue Groove 2.0 LITE-DTC
But I now have to say the the Schwalbe Nobby Nic is now the best ever tires overall that i have used. There was nothing that the trails offered the the Nobby Nics could not handle.

I look forward to riding them up front with a Racing Ralph 2.1 in back.
I am also looking to go with a 2.25 NN up front for just a little more bit and size.

The Nobby Nics in 1.8, 2.1, 2.25 and 2.4 will be available in the US readily in January 2006. The 1.8, 2.1 and 2.25 will also be available in UST.
 

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Awesome stuff

Awesome stuff dirtboy, thank you for the review.

They sound like an awesome general conditions tyre. You say they role fast- how do they compair to the likes of the Schwalbe Racing Ralf, and the Python in terms of roling resistance?
 

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JmZ, The 2.4" Racing Ralph is perhaps the best sand tire I'd come across for 26", together with the 2.35" Fast Fred that I loved and used from day one. The RR does have a weird grabby nature, hard to explain if the other doesn't know it, but it makes me fast anyway. Still, a plain jane Bontrager XR 29x2.25 front totally blows away the RR2.4 in sand.
The first time I heard about the NN, a local roadie/crosser that works for a bike mag had them on the bike he borrowed for the Dutch Elite MTB Champs, last July. Asked about the tires, he didn't know anything, and didn't care. He core a mediocre race, considering how he kicks my butt in cross.
 

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I ahve not tried it yet in soft sugar like sand..

that is on the deeper side. As another trails opens up next week or so, I will be able to give better feedback. On the very little sand I did hit they semed fine, but not a real judge.
For the me too, the RR in 2.25 or 2.4 did seems to wash out-slide in deepish sand.
 

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Not as fast as the RR or Python....

as the RR has smallower knobs and the Pyhton is a smaller knobby to smei slick IMO. For tire with good knobs, they roll pretty fast and smooth.

Again I VERY impressed with these...
 

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With sandy trails and wide tires, maybe low psi is extra important. Me and my buddy are 185 and 220lb, and we run the front 2.4" under 2 bar (sub 30psi) most of the time. We don't get bad roots or rocks though.
 

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With tubes???

I either run with UST or with sealed tires.
The lowest I run with UST in a 2.25 - 2.0 is 30-32psi and sealed tubeless 35-37 psi as I am worried about denting/flat-spotting my rims. Also lower psi to me feels to mushy and feels like I have a flat.

With tubes I pinch flat below 35psi.
 

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I use to race with the 1.85 in back years ago...Gold versions my fav.
Never tried the 2.3, might be sweet up front.
I have a 2.3 and a 2.0. The 2.3 is a really good front tire, in fact, one of my favorites. I don't care much for the 2.0 though. The knobs are too small IMO. The 2.3 not only have a wider casing, but much larger knobs. You should definately try it.

By the way, I've never try the 2.3 on the rear. It just seems like more of a front tire to me.
 

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With sandy trails and wide tires, maybe low psi is extra important. Me and my buddy are 185 and 220lb, and we run the front 2.4" under 2 bar (sub 30psi) most of the time. We don't get bad roots or rocks though.
In my opinion, sand performance is all about casing width and PSI....low PSI that is. I don't think tread pattern matters much. I weigh between 185 and 190 and I use low 20s in PSI in some larger tires, without pinch flatting.
 

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Where do you buy a Nobby Nic in USA???

Dirt boy,
Thanks for the reviews. I want to buy a NN 2.25 for the front and a RR 2.25 for the rear.

Where can I get the NN??? It seems that the Europeans are the only ones that have them WTF?

Where did you get yours???
 
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