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Wrenchscience has this piece of porn on there site and intense doesn't. What the hell?
I need to know more.....A 8" travel 6.5lbs. pedaling freeriders wet dream.
Has any one heard anything about this ride?
 

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What, when, where?
Wrenchscience has this piece of porn on there site and intense doesn't. What the hell?
I need to know more.....A 8" travel 6.5lbs. pedaling freeriders wet dream.
Has any one heard anything about this ride?
think vp-free made my intense. i highly doubt it'll be 6.5lbs. in fact, i GUARANTEE it's heavier than that, considering the shock alone will weigh around 1.5- 2 lbs.
 

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I think you're refering to the Intense V8. Its due out at the end of this year or early '05. I doubt the weight is 6.5lbs. Thats what a 5.5 weighs. With the coil swinger/5th it will use plus all the extra beefed up parts it will be more like 9.5lbs.
 

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After a short ride on a 5.5 I am sure even @ a realistic 8lbs. this has to be one of
if not the best 8" travel pedaler out. I've heard and read alot about how sh!t intense service is though.
 

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offtheedge said:
After a short ride on a 5.5 I am sure even @ a realistic 8lbs. this has to be one of
if not the best 8" travel pedaler out. I've heard and read alot about how sh!t intense service is though.
I seen somewhere that a 5.5 (large frame) weights 7.1lbs w/ manitou swinger (which I'm dissapointed about!) Be nice if they did weigh around 6lbs max though
Intense's 8" travem vpp frame will prob weigh in at over 9 lbs by time it reaches production.
Be a wet dream if it did weigh 7 pounds or less ;)
 

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it should be a nice bike but all it is...is a copy of the VP-Free...with an Intense sticker on it...

much like the M3...very nice looking bike but simply a copy of the new V11...

and santa cruz came up with the idea of the VPP system (apparently the lead designer for intense had some input into the design but it was minimal as far as im concerned)...so as far as my opinion goes...i look down apon companys who copy others ideas (or use them)...cough cough...norco...haro...cough cough...it simply leaves an opening for real companys who develop ther own unique designs to shine...cough cough...canfield brothers...broklen machine works...cough cough...

im done...:(
 

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Not exactly true...

The VPP technology was actually developed by Outland and was purchased by Santa Cruz who in turn licensed it to Intense (if you buy it is it copying?). This is very much the same as how Specialized licenses their 4-bar linkage design to countless other bike manufacturers.

As I understand, Intense has their own separate design team but utilizes the licensed suspension technology into their designs. If you compare the Intense M3 to last years M1 you should be able to see I mean.
 

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im talking about the new VPP system...and the V8 and VP-Free and M3 and V11 are exactly the same designs but with different shapped tubes...

and it is copying...make up ur own kool design dont lisence other ppls...
 

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I agree but i also disagree. Yes Santa Cruz bought the patents from Outland a few years back, then sold it to Intense, bu there is a reason that would benefit each company, the tricky deal with VPP, is look at how many different types of linkages and variables, and wheel paths there are. By working together, they were able to tackle alot more material faster. Yes they may looking uncannily similiar, but im sure the wheel paths are not identical, close but not identical! As we see it, it is dead out coping, but when u r in the corporate world, and buy the rights out, its just plain old busissnes. as they say, dont fix what aint broke! but yes, the little innovative companies are the ones that push the enevelope, but then these great big monsters come in and buy them out! Its a terrible cycle, yet we get to ride all the designs and choose what we like, so if ur wallets fat enough, have it ur way :D
 

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yeh i know...

stuff u big guys that are to lazy to develop there own ideas coz one day BJs gunna take over the world and when he does the lil guys who work hard will have as much praise as the fat lazy ones do...

not that we dont all love the fat lazy ones...:D
 

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it simply leaves an opening for real companys who develop ther own unique designs to shine...cough cough...canfield brothers...broklen machine works...cough cough...
Thanks for plugging the C-bros, who BTW have a 7" version of the F-1 in the works which will surely kick the snot out of the both the SC and Intense VP bikes.
 

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i read some pink bike review on the new F1 and whow dam...that thing is the sh-t...i would love one of those but would never ever get one coz i live in aus...and yes they sure do eat sh-t all over an M3 anyday...
 

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Wtf?? Bj

Go get a BJ and calm down! This coming from a guy who rides a specialized Big Hit. Don't get me wrong, I love Big S's product. But they are the kings of monopoly and selling patent! Do you really believe that they had anything to do with the developement of FSR... No! They packaged it and branded it. They had the right lawyers, but thats it. So let's not go off on the likes of Santa Cruz for going the way of Specialized, that's just good business.
 
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