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Hello all! This is my first post and I'm looking for some advice.

I'm gonna build a 6.6 and I'm wondering if the 2007 Marzocchi 66 SL 1 ATA is a good fork choice? Intense recommends a max travel of 170mm for this frame and the 66 has 140-180mm travel. Is this too much?

Or should i go with the AM Sl 1 with 160mm travel?

Does anyone know the AC lenghts of these 2 forks?

I like the 66 SL 1 ATA and would like the extra 20mm of travel for some rides. But I don't want to mess up the geometry. :nono:

Any help or input would be greatly appreciated in getting me set up right.

This my first Intense build and I can't wait.:D

Thanks!
 

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I asked Intense this question a while back and they were rather vague: something along the lines of "it's how u ride the bike and not the length of the fork".
That being said, I like the 36van which replaced the Z1 light on my 6.6.

2007 Models Axel to Crown

Corsa WC 80mm 464mm
Corsa WC 100mm 474mm
XC700 SL 464-504mm
XC600 474mm
XC500 474mm
Z1 RC2 538mm
Drop Off 3 538mm
AM SL 1 511-551mm
AM 2 531mm
AM 3 531mm
4X WC ?
DJ 1 483mm
DJ 2 483mm
DJ 3 483mm
Dirt Jam Pro 483mm
66 SL 1 ATA 525-565mm
66 RC2X 565mm
66 RC2 ETA 565mm
888 WC 584mm
888 SL ATA 554-584mm
888 RC2X VA 584mm
888 RV 584mm
Super T RCV 574mm
MX Pro ETA 508m! m
MX Pro ETA 488mm
MX Pro 488mm
MX Pro 468mm
MX Comp 1" 468mm
MX Pro I.S. 488mm



FOX

vanilla R 2005: 510 mm
Talas RL 2004: 490 mm
Talas RLC 2006: 503mm
vanilla 2004 un peu moins de 500 mm
Float 80mm : 451mm
100mm : 471mm


36 Talas(2006) en 150mm : 535mm
en 110mm : 495mm
36VAN RC2 (2006) en 160: 545mm
40 (2006) : en 178mm : 546mm
-------------- en 203mm : 571mm

MARZO

Z1 130mm drop off QR20: 503mm (2001)
Z1 FR SL (2003) 530 mm
Z1 FR 130 (2005): 518mm
Z1 FR 150 (2005): 538 mm
Z1 MCR (2001)130: 510mm
Z1 LIGHT ETA 150mm (2006): 538.5mm
Z3 Flylight 100mm (2000): 500mm
Z5 air en 100 (2001): 478 mm
888 (2005) en 200mm, 605mm
888 (2005) en 170mm, 575mm
888 (2006) en 200mm: 579mm
66 (2005) en 170mm, 595mm
66 (2005) en 150mm, 575mm
66 (2006) en 170mm: 555mm
66 (2006) en 1! 50mm: 535mm
Marathon S millésime 2002 100mm -> 480 mm
Maratho n S 120mm (2005): 495mm
Marathon XC 120mm 2005: 495mm
MX Comp en 105mm: 478 mm
MX Comp en 105mm (2006): 484.3mm
MX Comp en 120 mm : 493 mm
MX Comp en 120mm (2006): 499mm
MX Comp en 85 mm : 458 mm
MZ comp en 100 mm: 488 mm
EXR PRO en 105 mm: 478 mm
EXR PRO en 120 mm: 493 mm
all mountain 110 498mm
all mountain 130: 518 mm
all mountain 150 (2005): 538 mm
all mountain 150 (2006): 541.5mm
DJ2 2004 = 500mm
DJ en 100 mm (2005): 488 mm
DIRT JUMPER (2006) en 100mm: 483.5mm
shiver sc 120 mm : 510 mm
shiver DC: 572mm
Junior T 2003/2004/2005: 555mm
Junior T 2001 = 540mm
Monster en 200 mm: 595 mm

ROCK SHOX

pike: 517mm
Lyric en 160mm: 545mm +/- 5mm
Domain en 180mm: 565mm +/- 5mm
Totem en 180mm: 565mm +/- 5mm
Reba 85mm: 458mm
Reba en 100 mm : 473 mm
reba 115mm: 488mm
Boxxer 04 (178mm de débattement), 555mm en position basse
Boxxer 2005 race, team et world cu! p en 203mm : 570mm en position basse
Psylo SL uturn : 510 mm
Duke XC 80 mm 2004 : 460 mm
Duke C (année inconnue) 80 mm de dbt : 440 mm
Pilot en 100mm : 475mm
SID RACE 80mm: 442mm
SID SL 2001 80mm: 450mm
SID 1998 63mm : 435mm
Revelation 130mm (2006): 508mm
Revelation 100mm (2006): 478mm



MANITOU

Axel Elite 100mm : 480mm
Skareb Super TPC 100mm (modéle 2005): 475 mm
Black Platinum (Reglage maximum):515mm
black comp 2002: 475mm en debat 100mm
Stance Flow:502/532mm
Stance Kingpin: 540mm
Stance Static 80mm: 460mm
Stance Static 100mm: 480mm
Dorado DH: 542.5mm
Sherman Breakout Plus: 512/552mm
Sherman Flick Plus: 492/532mm
Sherman Firefly Plus: 492/532mm
Sherman Jumper: 455mm
Sherman Jumper 110mm : 480mm
Sherman Slider Plus: 540mm
Nixon Platinum/Super/Elite: 518mmMinute 1/2/3: 505mm
Minute 3 (en 100mm): 470 mm
M! illenium : 505mm
Splice 100 mm: 505mm
Splice Elite 130mm : 525mm
R7 (2006) en 100mm: 470mm
 

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Thanks! That helps.

I think both the AM Sl 1 and 66 SL 1 ATA are similar forks somewhat.

I like the extra 20mm the 66 has over the AM. It will come in handy at Whistler and other bike parks (which I only ride once or twice a year) and other downhill rides.

It's gonna be a all mountain setup, some uphill XC, some bikepark stuff, no BIG drops, just all around riding.

So it sounds like the 66 SL 1 ATA will be a good choice, I hope.

Thanks again.

Anyone else have any thoughts?
 

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G-Ryder said:
Thanks! That helps.

I think both the AM Sl 1 and 66 SL 1 ATA are similar forks somewhat.

I like the extra 20mm the 66 has over the AM. It will come in handy at Whistler and other bike parks (which I only ride once or twice a year) and other downhill rides.

It's gonna be a all mountain setup, some uphill XC, some bikepark stuff, no BIG drops, just all around riding.

So it sounds like the 66 SL 1 ATA will be a good choice, I hope.

Thanks again.

Anyone else have any thoughts?
In my case, I chose AMSL1 because I ride mostly in town doing some hucks and go downhilling few times a year. Haven't taken this bike with AMSL1 to the mountain yet, but it works really good for allround purpose. So might want to look at the ratio of what you are going to be doing and choose between. I was this close to go to 66SL, but ending up staying with AMSL1 (this could be because I weigh only around 150LBS and heavier riders might as well should choose 66SL).
 

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G-Ryder said:
Hello all! This is my first post and I'm looking for some advice.

I'm gonna build a 6.6 and I'm wondering if the 2007 Marzocchi 66 SL 1 ATA is a good fork choice? Intense recommends a max travel of 170mm for this frame and the 66 has 140-180mm travel. Is this too much?

Or should i go with the AM Sl 1 with 160mm travel?

Does anyone know the AC lenghts of these 2 forks?

I like the 66 SL 1 ATA and would like the extra 20mm of travel for some rides. But I don't want to mess up the geometry. :nono:

Any help or input would be greatly appreciated in getting me set up right.

This my first Intense build and I can't wait.:D

Thanks!
I went with the Marz AM1 for my 6.6 and couldn't be happier. The fork is so smooth and stiff I am still impressed everytime I ride the thing. I had a 06 Z1 Light on my last bike and the 07 AM1 is much more refined feeling. I also like the ETA feature for near instant HA changes, the ATA dial is too slow and cumbersome for on the fly adjustment (IMO). My AM1 weighed in at 5.2 pounds w/ uncut steerer and axle. I am still playing with the TST2 feature, it is the only part of the fork I'm not completely sold on yet. The TST2 seems to be on or off, although it is claimed to have an infinite range of adjustment (between off and on). It is an air charged system so I am still experimenting with different air pressures.
 

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In my case, I chose AMSL1 because I ride mostly in town doing some hucks and go downhilling few times a year. Haven't taken this bike with AMSL1 to the mountain yet, but it works really good for allround purpose. So might want to look at the ratio of what you are going to be doing and choose between. I was this close to go to 66SL, but ending up staying with AMSL1 (this could be because I weigh only around 150LBS and heavier riders might as well should choose 66SL).
Thanks for the input. Yeah I have a similar ride schedule, mostly local, downhilling a few times a year. However. I'm a Clydesdale, I weigh 250#. So maybe the 66SL is right for me?

Tough decision :rolleyes:
 

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How do you like the 36Van? How's the head angle? Too slack or just right? How's it on the climbs?
I thought I would have climbing issues with the 36 because I frequently used the ETA on the Z1. But no problems with any of the climbing I do.. or at least it didn't get worse (climbing on a 35# bike will always a problem for me). I just adjusted my climbing posture and it was fine.

The A-C is about the same..maybe a few mm longer on the 36. The thing I do notice is the
extra stiffness of the fox which is really nice. It does feel better on the rocky steeps.. so to answer your question, it feels better than the Z1, at least on the 6.6 and the riding i do.
 

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G-Ryder said:
Hello all! This is my first post and I'm looking for some advice.

I'm gonna build a 6.6 and I'm wondering if the 2007 Marzocchi 66 SL 1 ATA is a good fork choice? Intense recommends a max travel of 170mm for this frame and the 66 has 140-180mm travel. Is this too much?

Or should i go with the AM Sl 1 with 160mm travel?

Does anyone know the AC lenghts of these 2 forks?

I like the 66 SL 1 ATA and would like the extra 20mm of travel for some rides. But I don't want to mess up the geometry. :nono:

Any help or input would be greatly appreciated in getting me set up right.

This my first Intense build and I can't wait.:D

Thanks!
be careful, it is more than just the travel difference.

sure, the 66 SL has more travel, but that is probably not the most important factor. The stanchions on the 66 SL are bigger and as if not more important, the 66 SL does not use the same internals as the AM SL 1. Whereas the AM 1 SL does have ATA, it uses a TST cartridge as opposed to the RC2 in the 66 SL. I have owned a fork with the TST and it was nice but the 66 SL is gonna be considerably sweeter for aggro riding for sure.
 

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Uzzi?

G-Ryder said:
Thanks for the input. Yeah I have a similar ride schedule, mostly local, downhilling a few times a year. However. I'm a Clydesdale, I weigh 250#. So maybe the 66SL is right for me?

Tough decision :rolleyes:
250lbs, DHing, sure you don't want an Uzzi? At the least you should order the 6.6 with a coil instead of the air shock.

On the front fork, as someone already mentioned, the 66ATA gets 173mm and even that may be optimistic. I measured 173 total crown to seal on mine. Also, the ATA system is in it's first year and it has some problems. See the really long thread in the shocks forum for details. You could save some money going with a leftover '06 66 or take a look at the 36VAN @160mm.
 

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yup u can get by with a 06 66 or 07 36van and put a dhx 5 coil in the back.. and get a bolt on hub for the rear.

you may find the 6.6 rear a bit flexy if you are picky about that kind of thing.
 

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250lbs, DHing, sure you don't want an Uzzi? At the least you should order the 6.6 with a coil instead of the air shock.

On the front fork, as someone already mentioned, the 66ATA gets 173mm and even that may be optimistic. I measured 173 total crown to seal on mine. Also, the ATA system is in it's first year and it has some problems. See the really long thread in the shocks forum for details. You could save some money going with a leftover '06 66 or take a look at the 36VAN @160mm.
I wouldn't consider myself a DH'er. I went to Whistler this past summer and loved it. Stayed mostly on the bottom, a couple runs down garbanzo. No BIG drops, just the smaller ones.

I ride Mammoth Mountain a couple of days, go to Downieville a few days, and mostly do shuttle runs in So Cal. Then the some XC rides. So the 6.6 sounds more for me. I'm looking for an All Mountain set (one bike since storage is limited).

I coming from a Ellsworth Id and ZL1. This was NOT the bike for whistler! Great for all of the other rides.

So I want something with a slacker headtube and more travel that can handle a trip to Whistler. Hence the 6.6 with 66SL-1.

I was thinking of the RP23. Is that a bad idea? Which coil? DHX 5.0?
 

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No, get the frame with Evolver ISX6. It's been working great for me. It works like coil over.

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I wouldn't consider myself a DH'er. I went to Whistler this past summer and loved it. Stayed mostly on the bottom, a couple runs down garbanzo. No BIG drops, just the smaller ones.

I ride Mammoth Mountain a couple of days, go to Downieville a few days, and mostly do shuttle runs in So Cal. Then the some XC rides. So the 6.6 sounds more for me. I'm looking for an All Mountain set (one bike since storage is limited).

I coming from a Ellsworth Id and ZL1. This was NOT the bike for whistler! Great for all of the other rides.

So I want something with a slacker headtube and more travel that can handle a trip to Whistler. Hence the 6.6 with 66SL-1.

I was thinking of the RP23. Is that a bad idea? Which coil? DHX 5.0?
 

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G-Ryder said:
I ride Mammoth Mountain a couple of days, go to Downieville a few days, and mostly do shuttle runs in So Cal.
This has UZZI written all over it! Get a second wheelset if you need to do some climbing or just switch tires.

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I was thinking of the RP23. Is that a bad idea? Which coil? DHX 5.0?
The RP23 is a good shock but it is not for what you are describing. The pressure you will have to run on a DHX-Air will be very high. I think the DHX Coil is the way to go.
 

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This has UZZI written all over it! Get a second wheelset if you need to do some climbing or just switch tires.
I second that. The Uzzi is amazing versatile. Because of the weight it is hard to get it to the top (especially if you try to hang on XC guys), but the downhills are so much more rewarding. :D
A durable build for the 6.6 and a similar build for the Uzzi will differ by 2 pounds. And that is the difference in the frame weight!
 

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Pulled the Trigger!

First off, thank you to everyone who chimed in with excellent advice! I really appreciate the input in helping me make my decision.

So I decided on a Large 6.6 in pearl white with the Evolver ISX6 with a '07 66 SL 1 ATA up front. :D I'm real stoked and can't wait to get it built up.

Spoke to Chad and Thomas over at Intense, who were very helpfull and a pleasure to deal with. Thanks guys :thumbsup:

Thought about the uzzi, but I think it's more bike than I need.

I'll post up some photos when it's built and a report as well.

I'm stoked to join the Intense family, seems like an awesome company that build killer bikes.
 

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G-Ryder said:
First off, thank you to everyone who chimed in with excellent advice! I really appreciate the input in helping me make my decision.

So I decided on a Large 6.6 in pearl white with the Evolver ISX6 with a '07 66 SL 1 ATA up front. :D I'm real stoked and can't wait to get it built up.

Spoke to Chad and Thomas over at Intense, who were very helpfull and a pleasure to deal with. Thanks guys :thumbsup:

Thought about the uzzi, but I think it's more bike than I need.

I'll post up some photos when it's built and a report as well.

I'm stoked to join the Intense family, seems like an awesome company that build killer bikes.
damn, congrats! you even chose the 'right' color to go with that beefcake fork. :D
my buddy has that fork and he loves it. My opinion, it's the closest to a coil fork i've ever tried. lookingforward to seeing the new rig.
 

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I'm running All Mountain SL1 forks on my 5.5 and my team mate is also running them on his 6.6....both of us are very very happy.

You can get away with longer forks providing you don't go too far, will change the handling though. I run 150mm travel on the 5.5 designed for 130mm, I just run them softer to reduce the headangle and I get a soft active front end with perfect travel.

Intense are right it does depend on many things....
 
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