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RockStarRacing

Discussion Starter · Jun 18, 2009

Been out of the loop for a bit, i raced 650b quasi's in UK last year, but struggled with the tires in UK conditions, now there are more tires available, im back on the train, what 2.1 tires are available now? the RR' and panaracer/IRD Fire XC's, anything else? i know the 2.1 neo's and the Kenda nevegal in 2.1 are out soon..........

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RockStarRacing

Discussion Starter · #2 · Jun 20, 2009

nothing?

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medieval

· #3 · Jun 20, 2009

I've been running a 2.35 Nevegal for over a month now. 2.1 Nev's and Neos have been out for a while too. Your LBS might not have them in stock, but they should be able to order them for you.

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steelbike

· #4 · Jun 20, 2009

Neo-Moto 2.1 due in July and WTB Wolverine in the Fall.

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Cracked Headtube

· #5 · Jun 22, 2009

RSR, what do you want? Specifically. Compound, tread pattern, etc. what will make you happy?

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RockStarRacing

Discussion Starter · #6 · Jun 22, 2009

rocket ron in 650b? anything around 2.0-2.1 that is good all round conditions, the quasi was awesome in the dry, but as that rarely happens in the UK.............

peacenti neo in 2.1 would be good, if i can get hold of some over here, hopefully get them from bikeman and shipped over.....

anything else on the horizon?

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Cracked Headtube

· #7 · Jun 23, 2009

Since you're in Europe, you should bother Onza from some tires.

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JMac47

· #8 · Jun 25, 2009

Kenda Nev 2.1?

I believe these are out now right? Could someone point me to a US/West Coast source for these?

Thanks in advance.

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Rillburgher

· #9 · Jun 26, 2009

Rockstar, The Nev 2.1 feels pretty fast rolling, surprisingly so. And I agree with you, the Quasi is extremely fast in its element. But, I think the Nev2.1's performance envelop makes it the faster tire for slower, twisty terrain. It is comparatively bobble-proof, so you can keep the momentum through the turns and flying down the trail. If the race course demands that you use the brakes 'just so' to go fast, and corner with good technique to go fast, pedal up rough steeps, leap stuff, and find a 'smoothness' linking the backs of bumps to go fast, then for me the Nev beats the Quasi both front and rear even on dry trail (100 mm full sus Marin 650b conversion). The Neo 2.3 works extremely well up front, but for racing the Nev2.1 has an edge in weight. Can't wait to try Neo 2.1!
JMac, Here is one shopping option that I've used with no problems:
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=28952

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JMac47

· #10 · Jun 26, 2009

Appreciate the tips

Rillburgher said:
JMac, Here is one shopping option that I've used with no problems:
http://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=28952

.....on tires and where to get! :thumbsup: Do you run your tires tubeless?

JMac (getting closer to running them bigger wheels)

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Rillburgher

· #11 · Jun 27, 2009

yup, tubeless w/Stan's sealant on Stan's ZTR 355 rims. Those three tires mentioned have fit the rims great. I also experiment with tubes at times, especially up front. The Nev2.1 with tube has a more solid feel than tubeless, but it's hard to describe... with a tube it feels like I can 'bludgeon' the trail and scrub past serious bumps or 'issues' if I wind up off line. The bike 'squares off' a blown turn more predictably. Tubeless the Nev feels sticky and sort of gummy, less a weapon of trail destruction and more a nimble operator, grippier maybe, but a little flighty unfortunately. Possibly I need to experiment with more air pressure. With the Neo 2.3, the tube just makes it feel sorta heavy; it flat out destroys with or without a tube. As seems pretty much universally agreed, the Neo is an awesome AWESOME front tire.

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JMac47

· #12 · Jun 27, 2009

Interesting

Rillburgher said:
yup, tubeless w/Stan's sealant on Stan's ZTR 355 rims. Those three tires mentioned have fit the rims great. I also experiment with tubes at times, especially up front. The Nev2.1 with tube has a more solid feel than tubeless, but it's hard to describe... with a tube it feels like I can 'bludgeon' the trail and scrub past serious bumps or 'issues' if I wind up off line. The bike 'squares off' a blown turn more predictably. Tubeless the Nev feels sticky and sort of gummy, less a weapon of trail destruction and more a nimble operator, grippier maybe, but a little flighty unfortunately. Possibly I need to experiment with more air pressure. With the Neo 2.3, the tube just makes it feel sorta heavy; it flat out destroys with or without a tube. As seems pretty much universally agreed, the Neo is an awesome AWESOME front tire.

I've only recently gone tubeless, but on a set of Mavic SL's w/tubeless specific tires. I'm a light/somewhat nimble rider, so except for a set of DT wheels that seem to be pinchflat prone, I do pretty well on reg setup with tubes @ 28-30 psi. Probably will go with 355's for hoops, starting with one set up for the front @ first.

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umarth

· #13 · Jun 28, 2009

pricematch

JMac47 said:
.....on tires and where to get! :thumbsup: Do you run your tires tubeless?

JMac (getting closer to running them bigger wheels)

Use the pricematch on universal cycles- both of the Nev's went down a substantial bit which opened the door to spend more to get to 100 bucks and use the VIP10 for 10% off.

My Nev 2.1 got a slow leak yesterday and I couldn't bothered to pump it up since I only had a few miles left, but the grip was good, rolled well and was really plush. What is the lowest psi somebody has run for the Nev with tubes? I'm guessing I was around 25ish, but it might be a little low for a 190 pounder...

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JMac47

· #14 · Jun 28, 2009

Tubes?

umarth said:
Use the pricematch on universal cycles- both of the Nev's went down a substantial bit which opened the door to spend more to get to 100 bucks and use the VIP10 for 10% off.

My Nev 2.1 got a slow leak yesterday and I couldn't bothered to pump it up since I only had a few miles left, but the grip was good, rolled well and was really plush. What is the lowest psi somebody has run for the Nev with tubes? I'm guessing I was around 25ish, but it might be a little low for a 190 pounder...

Tubeless? at that psi. I could probably roll 12psi since I run about 135# !

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