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Basically i want a set of vans, but more trapsing through mud friendly and longer lasting sole.

So i want comparably hard wearing/protective upper to thin vans and a sole with a similar feel, so thin, flexible, grippy, re-positionable.

I'm a little confused what the freeriders and barons are like in comparison to each other. It's obvious barons have tougher upper, but which has the thinner sole? The baron is meant be a in between the impact and freerider, but by molesting the soles in shops, barons seemed the most thin and flexible.

How's sizing too? Stick to regular size? How's space in width at the toe area?

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The only difference between the Baron and the Freerider is the plastic toe cap added for protection. Sole is the same thickness. I would go a half size smaller than normal
 
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