Give us a hot link please to that post. Dont know that U talking about. I own a 5.5, doesnt seem like 4.5" at all.copello said:Can anyone comment on what this guy Jeff claims on the last post in the 5.5 product review? Is it true that it has only 4.5" of travel?
I just ordered my 5.5 frame based on the 5.5" of travel stated by Intense. Would be rather disappointing if it wasn't...
Someone with a 5.5 can measure it themselves. Measure the stroke of the shock and the length then flip the bike upside down (perhaps without the seat on because of the flex) and measure from the floor to the axel then take off the shock and drop the rear end by minus the stroke of the shock with the length of it at the linkage where the shock connects . That would be a close enough estimate of the actual travel.Tree said:What is the actual travel?
I used SuperNewb's rather unscientific approach to get 5 1/8" out of my med framed 5.5, also with the 4-way.Ronnie said:I own a 5.5 which I've had for over a year. When this thread was first posted my first reaction was denial. No way can he be right but I subscribed to this thread anyway, hoping that someone was going to show me he is wrong. I love this bike and have no interest in changing it. It does what ever I need it to. I don't do any drops or jumps but I regularly ride some rough rocky single trails. I'm quite heavy at about 210lbs. and I don't get the bike to bottom out, even with the SPV on my Swinger 4-Way at full volume. I do set the sag as directed.
The weather has been awful the past few days, so no riding. I decided to see if I could check this claim out. Correct me if I'm wrong but I understand that suspension travel is the difference between fully extended and fully compressed.
With my bike hanging on my work stand and the shock fully inflated, I measured the hight of the rear axle from the floor. I then deflated the shock and SPV and fully compressed the suspension. I would like to point out that the wheel arch in the rear triangle actually touches the seat tube at this point, so no chance of not being fully compressed. I then measured the distance to the floor again. I came up with 123mm. being the difference between the two measurements! Surely I made a mistake! I then took the bike off the stand and turned it upside down on the floor and very carefully repeated the procedure, Again making sure the triangle was against the set tube when compressed to allow maximum travel. I made a small mark with a felt tip on the Q/R and measured with a very stiff steel meter rule. I then repressurised the shock and measured the fully extended distance. The difference this time came to 121mm! This I'd say is the more accurate measurement as there was some movement in the work stand but close enough. 121mm is 4.76 inches.
The shock is the one the bike came with from the factory. I suppose that with a longer throw it would be possible to get a bit more travel, if such a shock exists or would fit, but as it is there is not 5.5 inches of travel. I'm also aware that the axle path is a flattened "S" shape but I followed the tread recently comparing various axle paths and I do not believe that the curvature could account for more than a few millimeters, not to mention another 18mm or 0.75 of an inch.
If my methodology for arriving at this conclusion is incorrect, I would bow to superior knowledge but at the moment I am rather disappointed.
I went into great detail above how I measured travel. I also meantioned that I am aware that the path is not a straight line. The attached photo is one that was posted by n10sguy on this thread:Spidey-Lag said:I'm not exactly sure how everyone is measuring the travel of their 5.5 but I'm assuming that people know the travel of our VPP's are in the shape of an arc. Correct? If people are measuring the length of travel in a straight line, you will be getting shorter overall lengths. However, if you were to measure the actual ARC our suspension traces you will get a longer measurement of travel.
So, I guess this leaves us with 5.5's that don't quite make 5.5 inches of travel..... Kinda sucks but I guess if people are happy with the way the evp's ride.......... If only Intense would have called it 5 point 0 evp, it would be more accurate?Ronnie said:I went into great detail above how I measured travel. I also meantioned that I am aware that the path is not a straight line. The attached photo is one that was posted by n10sguy on this thread:
It is actually the trace from a VPX but for illustration purposes you can see that the curve is fairly flat and the distance could only increase by a few millimeters straightening it out. Print it and use a piece of string to see how much difference it makes.
Did you level the bike in the workstand? If the bike wasn't level (for example if the bike was hanging with the front lower than the rear), then you will not get an accurate measurement and the travel will appear to be less than it actually is. The reason is that the axle path will be tilted forward, so the axle will be moving more fore-aft and less up-down.Ronnie said:With my bike hanging on my work stand and the shock fully inflated, I measured the hight of the rear axle from the floor.