Not sure about fox service center, but there’s a dedicated suspension shop about 20 min from me.Do you have access to the fox service center? RS forks tend to be super easy to Servise, u can fine tune any fork, even lyric with avalanche unless u have flex issues and wanna more stiffer fork;
I would invest in top of the shelf tune for current fork prior to upgrade
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That’s good to know! Definitely will keep that in mind. I think my biggest concern about the 38 is the csu creakI’m ~230 and keep reading posts about the Zeb that don’t sound anything like my fork.
I have a 170 Zeb on a Titan, and it’s the best fork I’ve had yet. I have no complaints about the mid stroke at all. Mine is 80-82 psi (assuming my gauge is accurate) with no tokens. At the moment I just have a few clicks of rebound damping, and I’m quite happy with it.
I rephrase- i would invest 300-500$ into aftermarket damper from push/avalanche/ similar to your fork that is designed for your needsNot sure about fox service center, but there’s a dedicated suspension shop about 20 min from me.
I have the lyrik select with the RC damper, so I don’t think it’s worth tuning. I’d have to get the charger 2.1 upgrade ($300) and then get a tune on top of it. The $300 + tune is more than what I will have paid for the 38+secus after I sell the current fork, and the 38 has the stiffness for a big guy like me.
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I’m as upgrade curious as the next person: Runt, Luftkappe, Secus, but honesty I don’t have a complaint that I’m trying to resolve. If I did anything I’d probably do a DSD tune and Runt, but they aren’t accepting mail-in work at the moment and I’m saving for a wedding.That’s good to know! Definitely will keep that in mind. I think my biggest concern about the 38 is the csu creak
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Is the vvc a better tuning platform than the charger 2.1? I’ve seen a few posts about it still being new enough that tuners aren’t sure yetThey're both going to be hugely under-damped for you. RS seem to have stanchion creaks sorted.
That’s what I thought. If I did go to a zeb I’d keep the secus and pick up a foot stud for the zebFor what it concerns the suppleness/mid stroke support issue, the stock Zeb air spring is exactly the same as the Lyrik so you'll want to upgrade it somehow. The 38 is much better in that regard.
Who did you have do the tune?240lbs on a Lyrik Ultimate (same damper as the Zeb). I had to have mine custom tuned. The stock Charger 2.1 tune is crap for heavy riders. The compression tune is very light and running the kind of pressures we need for support makes it harsh on small bumps.
A Secus should deal with the small bump harshness while preserving mid stroke support but you'll still need to have it revalved for your weight. You'll probably find you can drop your air pressure after a tune as you'll be compensating for the lack of damping with extra pressure at the moment.
I couldn't afford a Secus at the time so added some Push ULF wiper seals which improved small bump noticeably (takes a few rides for them to wear in). I might still get a Secus at some point, but that's being picky. Works much much better after a revalve.
TF Tuned (I'm in the UK).Who did you have do the tune?
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If you’re talking about the Lyrik, I agree. I owned a 2017 Lyrik for 2 years and a 2020 Lyrik for a year. The 2017 Lyrik only developed a minor creak after 2 years of use. The 2020 was silent at the time I sold the bike.RS seem to have stanchion creaks sorted.
I have no creak on my 2019 lyrik which is nice. Also tossing around the idea of moving the secus to the lyrik and selling the 38. But everyone I talk to says once you ride a 38mm stanchion at my size you won’t go backIf you’re talking about the Lyrik, I agree. I owned a 2017 Lyrik for 2 years and a 2020 Lyrik for a year. The 2017 Lyrik only developed a minor creak after 2 years of use. The 2020 was silent at the time I sold the bike.
I have found the Zeb to be much creakier. I’m on my third CSU in a year, and this one now creaks too. They’ve all started creaking about a month into their use.
The casting on the 2022 Lyrik crown (as seen in the Flight Attendant release) looks more similar to the Zeb. I’ll be interested to see if it fares as well as the older version.
