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So what tyres are out there that are aggressive tread and UST in a 29er? I don't think the Nevegals come in UST yet though right? Those would be ideal. So something along those lines.
Tubeless Ready and UST are not the same thing. Per the article, the Python passed the UST muster but is tubeless ready.Internal14 said:Too bad that the Python looks to be the only tubeless ready out right now. That tread won't hack it in our summer fun area's.
After riding with a buddy who was running the Maxxis Ignitor this past weekend, and him having 7 flats in Downieville...I decided I'd better find him a more robust tire! I've installed multiple Nevegals on customers wheels, but haven't tried them tubeless. Was hoping to find something with a big open tread and strong sidewalls. Guess it'll have to wait.
Hey GreenLightGo,GreenLightGo said:I think the closest you can get to UST now is the Python and Bonty DryX (with it's thick Abrasion Resistant casing).
The C29SSMAX wheels with a Python out back and the forthcoming Toro hardcase tubeless ready up front would be a pretty killer combo.
I don't know how the 24 spoke wheelset would feel stiffness wise though - I"m pretty happy with the Stans Flows and Hope Pro2s - good bang for the buck.
As for tires being UST (from my Twenty Nine Inches post) :Ronnie said:More to the point who even makes UST rims, even if there were UST tires? No-one I can think of except for the Mavic C29SSMAX. That means you have to buy a wheel set. Not even the Mavic TN719 rim is UST. I don't think there are any real UST tires either but a few manufacturers are making Tubeless Ready.
As for rims, yes, the Mavic Cr29max is the only "UST" developed rim/wheel in town for 29"ers. However; the "tubeless ready" variants from Bontrager and Stan's are very reliable and are easy to set up. (If you follow instructions)Some clarification here might be necessary. It is a widely held belief that UST means that a tire has to be able to hold air without sealant on a UST standard rim. This would mean that any tire that could do this would need an extra layer of butyl rubber around the inside of the tires casing to help it seal and become airtight. Well, this is only partially true. UST status can be attained also if any tire design meets the bead interface criteria and can hold air with the aid of a sealant on a UST rim as well. So, this means that the Python is going to be marketed as a UST tire but will require sealant, as it is a "tubeless ready" UST tire.
I want the TNT Saguaro badley. I love the tire but after a very very small scrape on the sidewall I am loosing air. The extra coating of rubber on the Tubless ready version should be perfect. The Hutch. Python is good but a little small. I cant wait for to Toro to get here too to try.GreenLightGo said:Tubeless Ready and UST are not the same thing. Per the article, the Python passed the UST muster but is tubeless ready.
Bontrager has tubeless ready tires, Geax is putting out a TnT Saguaro, Hutchinson is bringing the Toro in tubeless ready - there's more than the Python.
Big open tread w/ tough sidewalls - look at the WTB Stout.
Geax is notoriously slow, and an inside mole I know has told me late summer/Interbike, so that probably means "not during your '08 riding season".29or6to4 said:I want the TNT Saguaro badley. I love the tire but after a very very small scrape on the sidewall I am loosing air. The extra coating of rubber on the Tubless ready version should be perfect. The Hutch. Python is good but a little small. I cant wait for to Toro to get here too to try.
Someone pls tell me they are coming sooooon.... GT this means you:thumbsup:
I went with the Flow b/c it fit my intended use and my riding weight. Flows and Hope hubs are a solid combination, I don't have any experience on the 355s though what I've read seems to indicate they are more for lightweight/race day applications. At 210lbs, I could probably get away with an Arch since I don't do wild hucking stuff, just XC riding, but I"m in no hurry to ditch the Flows.gthcarolina said:Hey GreenLightGo,
I thought I saw you post earlier about Conte's in W'Burg. If you are around town I might like to see those wheels. I am thinking of buying some wheels from Stans right now and I am thinking of going with the Hope II hub. Question: Why the flow rim instead of the ZTR 355? I am going to have them build a 650B wheel and a 700 wheel. The 650 will go on my wife's bike but I want to get a feel for that wheel on my bike too. The Stans 650 rim only comes in the ZTR 355 model, though. I will get a Pacenti tire for the 650 and probably use the Panaracer Rampage I already have on the 700. Your thoughts?