I say the more sizes available, the merrier.markf said:in my shop 90% of the customers think 29 inch wheels are weird and don't understand them. I've tried to evangelize. this is just one more size to confuse most people with. it's like all the schwinn specific sizes. "no. your 26 inch tire won't fit on there, it's an S6 rim. sorry, but you need a very specific tire size with about 3 choices."
It did....well not decades, but one decade. GT used 700D, which is pretty close to 650B in the early to mid 90s on some bikes. Never caught on though. I have a really nice set of NOS 700D mtb tires with no rims available for them. Don't ask me why. :madman:Cloxxki said:This was bound to happen at some point (why didn't it happen decades earlier?
I agree 100%. Seems like 650B doesn't really solve much of anything, but if people want to make that size and use it, more power to them. I just don't see an advantage myself.Cloxxki said:Some XC racers are using 650c (13mm larger) rims with custom tubular tires (~1.9's typically), making for a very much 26"-like 26.5" overall wheel size.
With such minute wheel size differences, the real difference will be in the rider's head. Whatever makes you think is better will feel better. Too little actual difference to to correct a mindset.
Will this 650B WTB tire fit a standard 26" fork that happens to be a bit roomy? Will it fit my 26"ers?
Odd, WTB thinks there's not enough market to make the tires we plead for (be it a true 29x2.5 or 32x2.3"), yet they do make a 650B. In-between less scary than larger yet?
I was going to mention this, too. You have the details much better than I remembered.Fillet-brazed said:27"/650b has already been done. Tom Ritchey made 12 bikes with this size wheel (of which I've luckily got one) right at the point when purpose-built mountain bikes started to be built. Tom had heard about the Marin thing going on over the bridge on 26" wheels and he thoght 650b would do the trick and built a few up. Rumor has it GF got one too. Tom said he really liked that size and since at that point there were no aluminum 26" rims available it was a huge improvement.
The only problem was the tires were a little hard to get and only about 1.75" wide or so. They imported Nokian Hakkapalita (sp?) tires from Finland, but sometime soon after this mtb thing started happening, Russia ordered Nokian's entire production of the tire and that was the end of it. Then aluminum 26" rims happened with Ukiah and Araya and that was that.
Cloxxki said:So, will 27.5/27.5 kill the whole 29/26 halfbreed thing in the race for absolute fine tuned wheelsize for all things bike?
Please someone tell me where 650B sits between 559 and 622? If memory serves me (it would be a lucky guess, 650B is the size used on 584mm wheeled transport bikes, thus closer to 26". Yes, I know, too lazy to check Sheldon Brown today...
Will we now see MTB wheels in 650c/572mm (now in clincher) and something like 610mm, as 29" just accellerates that little bit "too slowly".
Go really small like 20" (for weight/acceleration/frame design convenience/handling quickness), or properly large like 32" (roll-over, rolling resistance, grip, traction, endo factor, steep climbing, comfort).