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Sence 29er Downhill bikes have been made would yall switch from 26 to do yalls thing?
no:nonod: :nonod:managedenemy said:Sence 29er Downhill bikes have been made would yall switch from 26 to do yalls thing?
That's dumb. What's to stop me from using the same reasoning to say suspension is a crutch for the week? How about wide tires? Disc brakes? The whole point of racing DH is to do what it takes to go down a hill as fast as you can. If bigger wheels are beneficial, why shouldn't people use them?Matt 891 said:29 inch wheels are a crutch for riders with sub-par skills
Ohhhhh, look at the rooty, rocky trail I just rode through because I have monster truck sized wheels!!
Suspension is a crutch - along with everything else you said.Hardtails Are Better said:That's dumb. What's to stop me from using the same reasoning to say suspension is a crutch for the week? How about wide tires? Disc brakes? The whole point of racing DH is to do what it takes to go down a hill as fast as you can. If bigger wheels are beneficial, why shouldn't people use them?
That said, I am far from sold on 29ers, even for XC use. Would I love to take a spin on a on the 951 29er? Yes. Would I buy one? I'd need to ride one to know.
Wow, you are retarded. Lines for a hardtail aren't always lines for a full suspension bike. Quite the contrary a lot of times. It may be the gnarly line, IE the one too gnarly for a hardtail, that is faster.Matt 891 said:Suspension is a crutch - along with everything else you said.
If you want to hone skills I recommend riding a minimalist hardtail rig as fast as possible. Then when you jump on the dh bike you will be choosing better lines, properly pump terrain and carry more speed.
I stand by my statement about 29 inch wheels.
WEAK rebuttaliridemtb said:Lines for a hardtail aren't always lines for a full suspension bike. Quite the contrary a lot of times. It may be the gnarly line, IE the one too gnarly for a hardtail, that is faster.
All those things were proven on motocross motorcycles long before the MTB adopted them. Where are the big wheels for MX bikes?Hardtails Are Better said:What's to stop me from using the same reasoning to say suspension is a crutch for the week? How about wide tires? Disc brakes?
Did you read the second half of my post? I was in no way claiming that 29 inch wheels were an improvement over 26s. My point was simply that bagging on 29ers for potentially being advantageous is moronic.Zanetti said:All those things were proven on motocross motorcycles long before the MTB adopted them. Where are the big wheels for MX bikes?
The people who design, engineer and race the fastest two wheeled off road vehicles on earth discovered long ago that the forces generated by big heavy wheels severely limit control at speed.
managedenemy said:Sence 29er Downhill bikes have been made would yall switch from 26 to do yalls thing?
I did, and I know where you're coming from. My comments were not actually directed at you, but more as food for thought for those that may be confused by the "29ers are better for everything and everyone" type of marketing that is being shamefully thrown at us from every direction.Hardtails Are Better said:Did you read the second half of my post? I was in no way claiming that 29 inch wheels were an improvement over 26s. My point was simply that bagging on 29ers for potentially being advantageous is moronic.
Intense 2951JTK37 said:What long travel Freeride bikes 6+ inches travel or DH bikes exist in 29er form? I can't find anything more extreme than the Niner at 5.5". Thanks, Joe
Hey you found it!!!:thumbsup:jcook1989 said:Intense 2951
Personally, I think those that spout you need a hardtail to become any sort of a skilled rider are full of themselves. I don't think you need to attend the school of hard knocks to ride , enjoy or excel @ mountain biking.Matt 891 said:Suspension is a crutch - along with everything else you said.
If you want to hone skills I recommend riding a minimalist hardtail rig as fast as possible. Then when you jump on the dh bike you will be choosing better lines, properly pump terrain and carry more speed.
I stand by my statement about 29 inch wheels.