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If any experienced members there who can give me advice please do so.

I'm looking for a 24 inch wheel frame, and have around a year to build my son's next bike.

As it's winter, season to give away bikes and I live in Japan, I can find some good deals for second hand bikes to use as a donor.

I already bought a Specialized Hotrock 2016 7 speed for 50 $ for the frame and was excited to measure it after all the parts removed. Unfortunately it's 1804 grams on my kitchen scale which is more than what I expected. I know weight is not everything and geometry looks good.

However there is also a commencal Ramones 2015 for 200$ for sale and the wheelbase/ top tube is 2 cm shorter.


The two bikes chain stay length and seattube /headtube angles are the same.
My kids torso is longer and his feets are shorter so I don't think the commencal would be much better but what do you think? Pls let me know.

There is an auction for a Cannondale trail for 50$ but the chain stay is 1cm longer so I think Specialized it's a better option but isn't it much lighter?

There are Giants and Marin donky s for sale, sometime frogs, GT stompers.

I would spend around 300$ for a super frame of any as I already have all the parts, so commencal meta ht and such are out of scope.

Which would be the best weight/ geometry balance option?
Thx for your advice on advance.
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Oh, WOW, not a single reply for 9 days. That shows you the problem here: building a 24" or 20" kids mtb is a hard task, because there are hardly any components available.

I like building bikes, for me and for my kids, but when I got to 24" I ordered a Woom Off 5, copmlete. If I was insisting on building such a buy, the result may have cost more, and weighted more.

If you still want the DIY method, you can look for a carbon frame from Ali Express. Don't crucify me for this suggestion, we all understand the pros and cons of an Ali-Express adventure. It's just an option. Example:



As for the specific measurements: I don't think it's THAT important for a kid. He's not going to race this bike on the Great Divide, riding 200km a day. Short chain-stays are important, the good quality kids-bikes brands will have them (Woom, Spawn cycles, Early Rider)

Your next challenge, after the frame, will be the fork. Again, There are some carbon forks in Ali Express, and even some suspestion forks can be found.

Rims for the wheels will also be a challenge. It depends on the kid's weight and how much he's a "shredder". There are many factors here: weight, width, number of holes. So it might be hard to find the specific set of requirements as a seperate component.

Sometimes Spawn cycles have pre-built 24" wheels.

Anyway - good luck with the project, and post some photos when it's done.
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I like building bikes, for me and for my kids, but when I got to 24" I ordered a Woom Off 5, copmlete. If I was insisting on building such a buy, the result may have cost more, and weighted more.
I embarked on building a 24 hardtail with the frame and wheels from DCB. (Doityourselfcarbonbikes). Those 2 parts alone cost more than the Woom and it will weigh about the same (I hope). But, it will have a much larger travel fork, 11 gears, and a dropper.
I sourced what I could from Pinkbike and CL. I only have a few small parts to buy but I’m only slightly south of 3k. (Yes, I know I’m crazy)
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Middle son recently came off a NS bike clash jr build. Had a 26 inch pike set to 110mm. Crest wheels with DT swiss 240/350 hubs. nice bike and the frame is pretty cheap with decent geo.
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My kids have also had good times on the NS Clash Jr. 24. Ours had a 26 inch 100mm fork. My middle son is wrapping up his time on the bike now, with my youngest starting on the bike very soon. Boreal (Ski) Resort was also using them for their summer rental fleet.
Thank you for all the replies!

Yes, I believe woom would be the most cost (and time!) effective 24 inch if you don't have already parts around.

I already built a 20 inch earlier for around 1,000 $ at the end, and plan to move those parts to the new one.

There I learnt the original (600$) budget is easy to go over... Main reasons for over budget were the super light wheels from Alibaba to be replaced because rim width was too narrow and MTB tires felt unstable on it and impossible to fit properly, plus I repainted the frame.

Thinking for the future I already have an RST f1rst 24 inch wheel fork which is only used these days once we go to a ski slope which operates as a bike park in the summer.

So I have the parts, needed only a frame and wheels. I'll build the wheels, Alienation deviant rims with koozer 36h hubs, DT db spokes, already bought them, built similar for the 20 inch bike.

I expect I will end up again 800 grams heavier then the woom, but more gears and shimano brakes and drive train. Which is not necessarily a good trade off, but seemed to be a good idea when I started the 20 inch project when I expected again, the frame will be lighter... (Gary Fisher Cosmo, 1578g)
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My kids have also had good times on the NS Clash Jr. 24. Ours had a 26 inch 100mm fork. My middle son is wrapping up his time on the bike now, with my youngest starting on the bike very soon. Boreal (Ski) Resort was also using them for their summer rental fleet.
Thanks a lot, this looks exactly what I was wishing for!
I only wish it would be lighter, it's 1.84 kg. My adult 26 inch yeti arc frame is 1574g, I guess my cro mo frame from the 90's is lighter too, but whatever I just keep grumbling 🤪
I feel like a newborn, overlooked it for so many years that Rocky Mountain has a very proper lineup for kids as well.
They do it for a while so if someone is looking for a donor frame, can find one used.

An Edge Jr 2016 bike was on sale for cheap I hesitated a lot but didn't buy at the end as bb drop was only 2cm that year. With that I wasn't sure if it would be better than what I already have.
If I find a Vertex Jr out Soul Jr, may go for it.
The direction I went was to build a 24" wheeled bike on an extra small 26" frame. This has the downsides of extra chainstay length, and harder to find a small enough frame. The upside is the BB drop is greater and it is easier to find frames with clearance for a decently wide tire. My rationale for wanting these things is that tire volume = suspension, and all frames I've looked at seem to be sized for 170mm cranks. By getting the greater bb drop of the larger wheel size and using the smaller wheel size, you get a more practical BB height after factoring in the shorter cranks.
Middle son recently came off a NS bike clash jr build. Had a 26 inch pike set to 110mm. Crest wheels with DT swiss 240/350 hubs. nice bike and the frame is pretty cheap with decent geo.
That's an interesting thought!
Could you calibrate the 26 inch suspension fork for 40kg rider? That bothers me regarding the NS clash frame as well. Fox settings are defined from 55kg.

By the way the Vitus 24 seems to have a very nice geometry on paper, also a shorter top tube, thinking about buying one to ride it while the transition from 20 inch to 24 inch. No chance to put a suspension fork in it but would be a good preparation for the bigger wheels. Maybe... Super cheap so why not...
That's an interesting thought!
Could you calibrate the 26 inch suspension fork for 40kg rider? That bothers me regarding the NS clash frame as well. Fox settings are defined from 55kg.

By the way the Vitus 24 seems to have a very nice geometry on paper, also a shorter top tube, thinking about buying one to ride it while the transition from 20 inch to 24 inch. No chance to put a suspension fork in it but would be a good preparation for the bigger wheels. Maybe... Super cheap so why not...
you can yes but I didn't
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