[A Grove]

http://www.factionbikeco.com/factionBikeCo.html

Firstly.. I've never even HEARD of faction bike co. But HOLY ****!! I give them soo many props on walking the plank and taking a plunge into the bicycle market.

I'm posting this to get thoughts, etc and just make it be known. Bash it, love it, want it... whatever it may be. Let it be heard!!

 

[Sombrio69]

i like their thinking but i highly doubt it will catch on to the main streem. 20'' has been around too long w/o any problems for a major change in the product line for a sport like this to happen. but neet none the less.

 

[Hand/of/Midas]

dumb.

 

[jeffgothro]

WOW...I honestly thought I saw it all (actually, I have, I knew a girl with a girls mt bike that had 22's in the early 90). Well, I give the guy an A for effort and pat him on the back for making his contribution to the sport - I hope he does well and his company makes enough to pay the bills and put food on his table. Will is be a seller or catch on - I find it unlikely - although I could be wrong and it wouldnt be the first time. After all, alot of things - bikes, parts, frames, technologys, etc we use today would have could have and some probably has have been scoffed at 10-15 years ago.

 

[cmc4130]

I am psyched on it.

1. BIgger wheels roll over bumps easier, which means trails and bmx tracks will feel smoother.
2. All-around proportionally bigger bike better suits a tall rider more than just stretching a frame longer. (I know--I've got 9" bars on a 22" tt Macneil Deuce Deuce and it feels good but looks weird.... On a 22" I could run 8" bars, which would feel like 9"s because of the extra inch in bb to grips vertical distance).
3. Nobody complains about 16" and 18" wheel standards for kids....So why should they cry about standards with this... They also *****ed about 29"errs and they're now a solid part of the cycling world.
4. It's not a replacement for 20", it is just another option.
5. You can do all the same stuff on it. If you say but why?....then turn around and ask 26" park riders why they're doing 540's at 6 feet out on a mountain bike. Just a couple of years ago (and even still) BMX'ers say that park riding on an mtb is stupid.... Open your mind. It's just options.

 

[crazy Jim]

I'm forty seven and have been DJing 26" bikes since the mid ninties when I switched over from BMX. Recently I tried going back to twenties because I thought they might be better for me as I was trying to advance my skills a bit. Well after two months I went back to the big bike cause I just could not get the same level of boost or pump as I do on the larger bikes. I will say this though, I DJ'd a buddies twehtyfour inch Blk Mkt and loved it and would consider it if and when I need to get a whole new bike.

 

[jimage]

i still wanna be the pioner of 25inch dirt jump bikes

i think it would be seriously nice

 

[-.---.-]

a 25" bike already has been made. Ii don't know if it's for sale of what, but schwalbe makes a tire for it...

It's in my mag somewhere...

 

[jeffgothro]

Why not make a 29er DJ - I was thinking about that last night because of this thread - I wouldnr ride/buy it but I'm sure a few probably would.

 

[adam728]

I like it. I try and ride my BMX at lease once a week, but have been thinking a great deal about a cruiser because I just don't care too much for the tiny bike. Maybe 22's will help get people to stop asking me why I'm riding a kids bike.....mainly my girlfriend.

Seriously though, I'd love to try one out.

 

[jeffgothro]

I like it. I try and ride my BMX at lease once a week, but have been thinking a great deal about a cruiser because I just don't care too much for the tiny bike. Maybe 22's will help get people to stop asking me why I'm riding a kids bike.....mainly my girlfriend.

Seriously though, I'd love to try one out.

Turn the tables dude - ask your GF why she rides adult bikes? :thumbsup:

 

[Hand/of/Midas]

ok fine, it is cool, so ill take a stab and make 19",21" and 23" BMX bikes also.
how many options are really needed? one for every shoe size? i feel some things are only done just because. There is already 20",24" and 26" for exacly the same purpose,(for those of you obviously to stupid to count thats 3) and each is already only a small step from the other. people play all these games in their head and imagine things and needs. You people will reply with "oh but the 29er!", and ill say, was only the SECOND option for xc riding, this is talking about a FOURTH! jeez, is anyone else out there logical?

 

[jeffgothro]

ok fine, it is cool, so ill take a stab and make 19",21" and 23" BMX bikes also.
how many options are really needed? one for every shoe size? i feel some things are only done just because. There is already 20",24" and 26" for exacly the same purpose,(for those of you obviously to stupid to count thats 3) and each is already only a small step from the other. people play all these games in their head and imagine things and needs. You people will reply with "oh but the 29er!", and ill say, was only the SECOND option for xc riding, this is talking about a FOURTH! jeez, is anyone else out there logical?

No I agree...quite honestly I dont think we need 29'ers and its alot of hype (seriously, do we really need another mt bike wheel size)...however alot in the other forums here on mtbr would disagree with me.

IMO 29'ers came along because alot of things, parts, designs, etc have already been done in the mt industry as far as 26" go, companys are running out of designs and other hype to sell you on - so, they start making thses 29'ers - and it caught on, and now theres a market for it. I bet it wont be to long before some other new fad comes out and every tom, dick, and harry is going to jump on the bandwagon cause its the "next cool thing".

I'm just glad we have killer 26" DJ bikes now, I been thinking about those for years long before the Mob came out, I even had a DJ bike (or as close as you could get to one) in 2001 - was a SE OM flyer with suspension forks and a 5 speed cassette - with companys making jump/park/urban specific bikes its a trend/fad thats more then welcome in my book - and all; companys did was change a mountin bike frames geomentry and throw mostly bmx parts into the mix.

 

[Hand/of/Midas]

No I agree...quite honestly I dont think we need 29'ers and its alot of hype (seriously, do we really need another mt bike wheel size)...however alot in the other forums here on mtbr would disagree with me.

IMO 29'ers came along because alot of things, parts, designs, etc have already been done in the mt industry as far as 26" go, companys are running out of designs and other hype to sell you on - so, they start making thses 29'ers - and it caught on, and now theres a market for it. I bet it wont be to lonmg before some other new fad comes out and every tom, dick, and harry is going to jump on the bandwagon cause its the "next cool thing".

i wouldnt go that far(except with 650b), 26" and 29" both have advantages, you just cant believe that one trumps other hype thats too common. two options make sense to me, FOUR is retarded.

 

[jeffgothro]

you just cant believe that one trumps other hype thats too common.

Oh I agree. And I dont believe it

 

[b4 stealth]

I say good for them for trying to fill a market....that isn't really there. what would be awesome is a 24" or 26" with steep and short geo like a 20, or maybe they already have those and i am not aware of it, idk.

 

[Hand/of/Midas]

I say good for them for trying to fill a market....that isn't really there. what would be awesome is a 24" or 26" with steep and short geo like a 20, or maybe they already have those and i am not aware of it, idk.

a quicker more manuverable big bike would be sweet, but the limitations are tire hitting the seatube, and wheel/foot overlap. alot of bikes are already at this point.

 

[cmc4130]

ok fine, it is cool, so ill take a stab and make 19",21" and 23" BMX bikes also.
how many options are really needed? one for every shoe size? i feel some things are only done just because. There is already 20",24" and 26" for exacly the same purpose,(for those of you obviously to stupid to count thats 3) and each is already only a small step from the other. people play all these games in their head and imagine things and needs. You people will reply with "oh but the 29er!", and ill say, was only the SECOND option for xc riding, this is talking about a FOURTH! jeez, is anyone else out there logical?

you forgot about 12", 16" and 18" wheel bmx's.

tell me why you think Hoffman, Haro, DK, FIT, etc. all made 18" wheel BMX bikes. why can't that 8 year old just pick a 16" or a 20" !?

 

[jeffgothro]

18" is a pit bike.

 

[Hand/of/Midas]

you forgot about 12", 16" and 18" wheel bmx's.

tell me why you think Hoffman, Haro, DK, FIT, etc. all made 18" wheel BMX bikes. why can't that 8 year old just pick a 16" or a 20" !?

that 8 year old cant just pick between a 16" or 20" because only the 20" is made for riding ramps and jumping, the 16" is just a bike for a small kid. The 18" bike is designed to actually be able to ride ramps and jump with control. so the 18" bike is for kids who can actually ride skateparks, but dont quite fit a 20".

besides, your ignoring my previous point completly again. even if a 16" was feasable to ride correctly on ramps, the same size kid wouldnt choose from 12,16,18,20", as each bike fits a much different size rider. 22" would be a 4th option for the same idiot.

keep it coming Ptolemy, i am Copernicus.