yeah ditch them. i love esi chunkysI got the XXL and have ridden about 25 miles of trails and love it. First bike I have had that actually feels good to ride. Only minor issue I am having is some hand soreness, but that may be due being off the bike for a while and/or to the small stock grips. I have always used ODI Rogue so ordered a set with black with red rings to match bike. See how that goes. Drop from saddle to bars is minimal (<1").