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Question while I narrow my search - for a complete build would the extra 1K for the carbon wheels be worth it?
Even people who rode both aluminium and carbon wheels will have different opinion on that question or on the pros and cons of carbon-aluminium. I read lot of stories of carbon failure that brought some riders back to aluminium rims. Also stories of riders who were destroying aluminium rims all the time, then made the switch to carbon and they will swear that carbon is more resistant. I think that just show that all carbon rims and all aluminium rims are not that created equals and also it may depend on riding style/area as mentioned by drdre above. A good aluminium wheel will generally be more supple and if it dents, you can often fix it. While carbon will generally be lighter (but some AM/enduro wheels will be close to a good aluminium one) it also more stiff/direct.

Here's my personal experience. When I bought my Ripmo, I got some We Are One wheels (Insider rim 27mm, dtswiss 350, sapim cx-ray spokes), around 1700g. These rim are known to be relatively supple for carbon. Rode one season with DHF 2.5/Aggressor 2.5, then Dissector 2.4/Rekon 2.4. At the end of last season, I bought some beefier tire (Magic Mary 2.6/Big Betty 2.4) and installed them on my stock Ibis wheelset which is aluminum 35mm inner width. The difference between the two setup is really amazing, almost like two different bikes. It's due to a mix of more damp tire carcass, weight (probably 2 pounds more for the aluminium setup with beefier tires), larger inner width rims and possibly material of rim. On gnarly trails (rocky, with ledge, roots, steep rock slabs, etc) I preferred the aluminium setup. The bike feels like a monster truck, is more compose and also stable while in the air. The carbon setup with lighter tires is definitely faster, easier to throw around, easier when you have punchy moves or small steep climb. It's really easier to pump the bike and it feel more dynamic under you. Full speed into a rock garden it transfers more shatter. Which % of those differences is due to carbon vs aluminium is hard to tell... I would have to try two wheelset with same inner width and tire to be really sure...

So I've decided to keep my Ripmo for really gnarly ride on more enduro style trails while I'm building my Nimble 9 to be more all- around. So I'll use my carbon wheelset with Dissector/Rekon and can alway get 2.6s if I want more cush. I would be curious tp try the N9 in 27.5/2.8 as I find this setup really fun on my son's Middlechild. So is it worth 1000$? I guess it depend on budget, where and how your riding and what you're looking for...
 
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Even people who rode both aluminium and carbon wheels will have different opinion on that question or on the pros and cons of carbon-aluminium. I read lot of stories of carbon failure that brought some riders back to aluminium rims. Also stories of riders who were destroying aluminium rims all the time, then made the switch to carbon and they will swear that carbon is more resistant. I think that just show that all carbon rims and all aluminium rims are not that created equals and also it may depend on riding style/area as mentioned by drdre above. A good aluminium wheel will generally be more supple and if it dents, you can often fix it. While carbon will generally be lighter (but some AM/enduro wheels will be close to a good aluminium one) it also more stiff/direct.

Here's my personal experience. When I bought my Ripmo, I got some We Are One wheels (Insider rim 27mm, dtswiss 350, sapim cx-ray spokes), around 1700g. These rim are known to be relatively supple for carbon. Rode one season with DHF 2.5/Aggressor 2.5, then Dissector 2.4/Rekon 2.4. At the end of last season, I bought some beefier tire (Magic Mary 2.6/Big Betty 2.4) and installed them on my stock Ibis wheelset which is aluminum 35mm inner width. The difference between the two setup is really amazing, almost like two different bikes. It's due to a mix of more damp tire carcass, weight (probably 2 pounds more for the aluminium setup with beefier tires), larger inner width rims and possibly material of rim. On gnarly trails (rocky, with ledge, roots, steep rock slabs, etc) I preferred the aluminium setup. The bike feels like a monster truck, is more compose and also stable while in the air. The carbon setup with lighter tires is definitely faster, easier to throw around, easier when you have punchy moves or small steep climb. It's really easier to pump the bike and it feel more dynamic under you. Full speed into a rock garden it transfers more shatter. Which % of those differences is due to carbon vs aluminium is hard to tell... I would have to try two wheelset with same inner width and tire to be really sure...

So I've decided to keep my Ripmo for really gnarly ride on more enduro style trails while I'm building my Nimble 9 to be more all- around. So I'll use my carbon wheelset with Dissector/Rekon and can alway get 2.6s if I want more cush. I would be curious tp try the N9 in 27.5/2.8 as I find this setup really fun on my son's Middlechild. So is it worth 1000$? I guess it depend on budget, where and how your riding and what you're looking for...
Thanks for the feedback. It was rather helpful. I’m gathering parts to build my nimble 9 as a SS. I am trying to decide which rims to build my wheels around and am leaning toward the Enve AM30. Do you think you would like the carbon better if your wheels were a little wider?
 

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Do you think you would like the carbon better if your wheels were a little wider?
Maybe... I would be curious to try Ibis Carbon wheels to compare. Just to clarify my thoughts: I really like my WR1 wheelset and I hit some double black trails on it last summer and it was flawless. In summer, when it's drier, I would still use this combo on my Ripmo for general riding. But since I'm getting the hardtail, it make sens to have the Ripmo for beefier stuff and trying to lighten the hardtail for flow, pumping, jumps, fast riding etc. I have not ridden my aluminium setup on long epic ride where there's a mix of XC pedaling with some section of gnar. I mostly rode on more enduro trail last fall (so going up at slow pace, to go down gnarly/technical trail). If I had the budget, I might get a wider carbon wheelset for the Ripmo as well, will see how my two bikes paires this summer...

Just to give an idea of our riding... Wolverine trail in Sentiers du Moulin. No problem on my carbon wheels.

EDIT: In the past Enve were known to be really stiff and, in my opinion way too expensive... But their new wheels are more reasonably price and marketed as more supple and compliant. Pinkbike did a review and for the same price, I would go with a WR1 with hydra hubs... Review: Enve AM30 Carbon Wheels - Pinkbike. But I don't know about availability. I had 15% black friday discount on my WR1 and paid around 1600 can$. Personally this is probably the most I would spend on a carbon wheels. I would like to try a Light Bicycle wheelset, their prices are really good...
 
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Also, you never/very rarely have to true a carbon wheel vs aluminum. They will last longer unless you manage to crack them. But, if you've cracked your carbon, probably, you would of put a serious dent in your aluminum. Maybe you could ride the aluminum rim out without having to walk - maybe.

The ride is indeed a bit different. Its a bit more springy and accelerates a bit faster. They transmit a bit more noise into your hands - so if you have arthritis, maybe consider aluminum. The steering is a tiny bit more precise but may knock you around a bit more. xc racers will usually have carbon, enduro type peeps will generally have aluminum for these reasons.

Carbon certainly is more blingy!
 

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Like everyone else, I'm eagerly awaiting my frame to arrive, but honestly there's still a wait time on some of the components I have on order for my build. The plan was to build it as a 27.5+ on 140mm for general trail riding. Problem has been sourcing 2.8 tires, I'm able to get my hands on 2.6, am thinking of just getting those and trying it until 2.8 become available again. How would it affect the bike? I know the bottom bracket would drop which isn't ideal, looking for thoughts and insights.
 

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I emailed them that question for the same reason and their reply was that 2.6's would put the BB too low. I found some 2.8's (Rekon/DHR) from Chain Reaction. Shipping has taken a couple weeks but honestly happy to have something on the way.
 

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Hey there! See some folks looking for 27.5+ tires for Nimble builds.

They're not on the website, but we have bunch of 27.5x2.8 Maxxis Rekons in the warehouse! EXO, 3C, MaxxTerra.

Shoot us an email: sales (at) canfieldbikes dot com
 

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Has anyone tested their nimble 9 with both a 44mm and 51mm offset? The fork is one of my last components I still need to get and I have been thinking about this for quite some time. With the bike already being a shorter bike with shorter chainstays would going 44mm offset be too much trail?
 
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