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Turner DW DHR Build

This is a build I've been working on for a while. I usually build functional but quality DH bikes, but this year I decided to build something a little over the top. This build actually started at the 2010 Interbike Tradeshow with an amazing test ride on the 2011 Turner DHR. I rode a few trails that I am very familiar with and have raced a number of times each. Over the years I've tested at least 20 to 30 different DH bikes on these same trails. To date the 2011 DHR was the most amazing bike I have ridden on those trails.

Two things impressed me most about this bike:
1. First, was how well it carried speed through hard square edge impacts. The kind of impacts that slow most bikes down a lot and often lead to flat tires. The 2011 DHR handles these better than any DH bike I've ever ridden before.
2. Second, was its ability to follow the fall-line of the trail. So many other bikes require going around certain obstacles on these trails, but the DHR was perfectly happy to just go over them allowing me to take the straightest line possible.​

How about a pic:


So, on to the build...
Frame: 2011 Turner DHR - Black Ano, Medium
Shock: X-Fusion Vector HLR - 9.5 x 3.0
Spring: RCS Ti - 350 x 3.0
Fork: 2011 Rock Shox Boxxer World Cup
Headset: Cane Creek AngleSet - .5 degree steeper cup = .8 degrees actual due to the small Head Tube
Bars: ENVE Carbon DH - cut to 30"
Stem: Sunline Direct Mount - 50mm
Grips: LizardSkins Peaty - gold Go-Ride.com clamps
Brakes: Shimano XTR Trail - 180mm rotors
Post: Thompson Elite - 30.9
Saddle: Tioga Spyder BMX
Cranks: Shimano Saint - 83mm x 165mm
Guide: E13 - LG1
Ring: E13 Guide Ring - 36T
Pedals: Shimano XTR Trail
Shifter: Shimano Saint - 9spd
Derailleur: Shimano Saint - SS cage
Chain: Shimano XTRCassette: Shimano Ultegra 11-25
Hubs: Hope Pro II - 20mm Front / 12x150mm Rear
Rims: DT Swiss FR600
Spokes: DT Swiss Competition - Black
Tires: Maxxis Highroller DH 3C
Tubes: generic mid-weight 2.5
Bling:
1. About 50 Ti bolts including shock bolts
2. Go-ride FFB (Factory Frame Bumpers) for fork to frame protection
3. Go-ride FFP (Factory Frame Protector) on drive side chain & seat stays​

Weight: 36.8 lbs

Future Plans:
1. That's the wheelset off last year's bike. I plan on building a set with NoTubes Flow Rims for race day - .6 lb savings
2. May run ESI silicone grips after I get my bar width dialed in - 2oz savings
3. Will run Maxxis Minion DHF EXO 3C tires at select events - 1.75 lbs savings4. I will be testing a few additional shocks on this ride: Cane Creek Double Barrel, Elka Stage 5, and Fox RC4. These are all out of the GO-RIDE Demo Program.​

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Enve bars, Cane Creek AngleSet, XTR Trail brakes, and the worlds most uncomfortable seat :D


X-Fusion Vector, Ti spring & shock bolts, E13 guide, Saint cranks, XTR Trail pedals, just under the seat stay is some Go-Ride FFP frame protection


Saint SS derailleur, Ultegra 11-25 cassette, Shimano 2-piece 180mm rotors


Ti rotor & brake bolts, Aluminum heatsink brake pads...crazy


Full view of the non-drive size. What, no close up of the linkage? I'll work on it.


More Ti bolts and XTR Trail bling


That's all for now...comments welcome
 

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Flynnster said:
Looks amazing!! Surprised on the pedals though, woulda expected platforms.
My joke at the shop is that platforms are the training wheels of pedals. :D

Truth is I go back and forth between platforms and clips every season or two. Sometimes I'll ride platforms for fun other years it's because I can't find clipless shoes I like. I've been trying to race both DH and Super D the last couple of years so I'm get pretty used to riding clipped in all the time.
 

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Noticed you went steeper on the HA. Can you elaborate on your rationale? I have noticed the DHR to be fairly slack (in pictures, i've never rode one). It is interesting to see you go the other way. Real nice build too!
 

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rippling over canyons said:
Beautiful bike along with the 5 Spot you also posted. Why not 203mm rotors?
The 5 Spot is a customers bike. The DHR is my personal race rig. I'm planning on a 2011 5 Spot as my trail bike and Super D racer, but it won't be as nice as the one we've posted.

I only weight 160 lbs, try to ride smooth, and the XTR Trail brakes are crazy powerful. The last two seasons I've raced Avid Elixir CRs with 185 rotors and haven't had any problems.
 

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holy grap!
that DHR is badass! :eek: :thunbsup:
 

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Noticed you went steeper on the HA. Can you elaborate on your rationale? I have noticed the DHR to be fairly slack (in pictures, i've never rode one). It is interesting to see you go the other way. Real nice build too!
The 2011 DHR has a 63 degree head angle. That is World Cup slack. Meaning you have to be racing very steep courses or at least be very very fast. I'm not that fast (not really even close anymore) and I'm OK with that. The past two seasons I'ver raced a bike that was set at 64.5 and I never felt it was too steep. A steeper HA works better for most riders on flat corners which we have a lot more of than last seasons WC series.

The Cane Creek AngleSet comes with 3 options. It has a .5 degree, 1.0 degree, and 1.5 degree offset cup. They can be installed to slacken or steepen a HA for a total change of 3 degrees. It seems they are based on about a 5" head tube. So, if your head tube is smaller than 5" you will get more of a change than is specified on each angled cup. If it is bigger than 5" you will get less of a change. I wanted 64 degrees and due to the 4" head tube on the medium DHR I used the .5 degree cup to get about a .8/.9 degree steeper HT. It also raised the bottom bracket a bit to about 13.625, which is still very low.
 

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DAYYUUUMMMM --- Nice rig Scott. Always been something special with the DHRs. Best of luck on it this year.
 

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Oh my god, those cheap bar end caps. I can't believe you took that bike out in public looking like that. And those cranks......jeesh......there are at least 3 newer model options out there.


Looking good Scott! ;) You should try riding the stock head angle if you haven't already. You and I are about the same size and I have zero problems getting all over the front end, even on flat northstar trails. Shorter cockpit with the same old (08) wheelbase does that for ya.

Now go pound on that thing!!
 

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very nice build scott. well done. :thumbsup:
the new DHR is a very confidence inspiring bike. you stated previously you might be trying a few different shocks. i would be curious to here your opinion when you try something new.

the Ti hardware is some nice bling for sure, btw are those some sort of crank protectors near the pedal inserts of your saint cranks. like the ones from some carbon cranks.
 

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The 2011 DHR has a 63 degree head angle. That is World Cup slack. Meaning you have to be racing very steep courses or at least be very very fast. I'm not that fast (not really even close anymore) and I'm OK with that. The past two seasons I'ver raced a bike that was set at 64.5 and I never felt it was too steep. A steeper HA works better for most riders on flat corners which we have a lot more of than last seasons WC series.

The Cane Creek AngleSet comes with 3 options. It has a .5 degree, 1.0 degree, and 1.5 degree offset cup. They can be installed to slacken or steepen a HA for a total change of 3 degrees. It seems they are based on about a 5" head tube. So, if your head tube is smaller than 5" you will get more of a change than is specified on each angled cup. If it is bigger than 5" you will get less of a change. I wanted 64 degrees and due to the 4" head tube on the medium DHR I used the .5 degree cup to get about a .8/.9 degree steeper HT. It also raised the bottom bracket a bit to about 13.625, which is still very low.
I was initially turned off by the DHR because of the slack HA. I live in the northeast and have no reason for a bike that slack either. You just peaked my interest in the DHR again. I've owned 2 DHR's in the past (the old 7" design and the square tube with the romic). I may have to get back in the Turner game once again. Thanks for sharing your insight.
 

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kidwoo said:
Oh my god, those cheap bar end caps. I can't believe you took that bike out in public looking like that. And those cranks......jeesh......there are at least 3 newer model options out there.

Looking good Scott! ;) You should try riding the stock head angle if you haven't already. You and I are about the same size and I have zero problems getting all over the front end, even on flat northstar trails. Shorter cockpit with the same old (08) wheelbase does that for ya.

Now go pound on that thing!!
I know what you're saying. I'm pretty pissed too that ENVE doesn't have carbon bar plugs for the DH bars....I MEAN REALLY.

I'll definitely give the stock HA more of a try, but I always say, "If its too slack then you're too slow". Unfortunately, that statement now applies to me. However, I do love the 65 degree 160mm fork on my Reign X. Maybe there's still hope for me.
 

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RPG said:
I was initially turned off by the DHR because of the slack HA. I live in the northeast and have no reason for a bike that slack either. You just peaked my interest in the DHR again. I've owned 2 DHR's in the past (the old 7" design and the square tube with the romic). I may have to get back in the Turner game once again. Thanks for sharing your insight.
I've been a long time fan of the DHR. Even owned one for the last two years, but it was mostly raced by one of our sponsored Pros. I used it a lot for testing shock tunes.

I will tell you this, as much as I liked the previous generations the 2011 amazed me. I really didn't have any plans to build a new DH bike until I rode this one.
 

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Nice ride...wow impressed with the weight.

What front brake adapter you have there?
 

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Relayden said:
Nice ride...wow impressed with the weight.

What front brake adapter you have there?
On both the front and rear I'm using Shimano Post Mount 180mm adapters. They come with those CPS washers because the bolts, caliper and adapter don't line up in a perfect line.
 

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san_andreas said:
@[email protected]: Really nice ride !
How did you cut those ENVE bars ? Did you seal the ends of the bar after cutting ?
We have a special carbon cutting hacksaw blade, but I've also had good results from a standard 18T per inch blade. I then did a light sanding with fine sand paper, and put some CA (super glue) on the exposed ends.
 
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