[MHinvest]

http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=BUY_PRODUCT_STANDARD&PRODUCT.ID=7953&MODE=SPECIALS

Cheap Wheelset for those in need. Not sure if this is the place to post a deal but hopefully someone can find it useful.

 

[qkenuf4u]

now if only they didnt weigh so much...

 

[Mr.P]

Now only if they didn't suck so bad for anything beyond XC.

Yes, I owned a set.

Flimsy rim + 24 spokes = save your money.

P

 

[jrabikerepair]

I have also owned this wheelset.
It is a decent improvement over a basic stock wheelset. Heavy for xc, not bad for lighter trail riding/training. For the price definitely a good deal. However, if you are heavy (200+) or picky about parts, skip on it. Also, replacement spokes are tougher to find than usual.
I found this wheelset to be flexy and less than responsive, personally. I use it for winter road/mtb rides, simply because I could care less if it becomes covered in road salts.

All in all, good for beginners who want an upgrade from a basic 32 spoke wheelset. Don't expect anything special in terms of durability or weight.

 

[forgiven_nick]

Bought 3 sets. I currently use a mavic ex823 laced to xtr hubs on my motolite. Great wheels, but around 2300g. Got them for an amazing deal from a good friend who thought he was buying 819 rims laced to xtr hubs. They never go out of true, but I only really ever ride xc/trail stuff anymore, with occasional, once a ride, 2-4 ft drops if I am looking to do that on my rides. I figure these wheels are so cheap, why not use them as a race wheel for this season (my first racing season), then use them for training next season or for as long as they last, providing that I can get a "real" set of race wheels next season.

 

[jrabikerepair]

That's what I did. I raced on them for a season, then retired them to winter training after finding a 1300g racing wheelset (amazing improvement, but pricey, even at cost...) Like I said, they are good for entry level wheels, but do not expect a ton of performance out of them.

 

[forgiven_nick]

What 1300g set are you racing on?

 

[dAMIAn78]

Good deal as an upgrade to replace a 10+ year old set on a singlespeed beater. In for 1, especially with Jenson selling the 11's for 250.

 

[Mr.P]

Note that this deal is for the "UB" or V Brake track rim version (hence the compromise in rim stiffness).

I'm sure the pure disc version is stiffer.

Also for those that are concerned about weight, the hubs are probably overweight as they have a steel axle (if I can remember correctly).

P

 

[jrabikerepair]

What 1300g set are you racing on?

DT Swiss XRC 1350 Carbon. Actually weighs 1350 Grams per set, 710g Rear, 590g Front.

 

[forgiven_nick]

DT Swiss XRC 1350 Carbon. Actually weighs 1350 Grams per set, 710g Rear, 590g Front.

Yeah, those cost just a little more than 89 bucks. I guess you also lose 600g!

 

[micky]

Are these wheels UST compatible? If not, do they convert easily with stans? Regardless, 110.00 for a wheelset is a better deal than many of the single wheels that I was looking at. Already ordered.

 

[Clones123]

$10 PayPal "Bill-Me-Later" credit ?

Note that this deal is for the "UB" or V Brake track rim version (hence the compromise in rim stiffness). Im sure the pure disc version is stiffer.

It seems counter-intuitive to me that a UB rim would be less stiff than a disc-only rim. Seems rather more logical - whether true or not - that a rim designed to carry a tire AND braking force would be stiffer than a rim designed only to carry the tire. Or perhaps we're saying that the 24-spoke lacing itself is less stiff than a 28 or 32-spoke wheel would be?

Ordered a set last night so I could upgrade my son's bike to 6-bolt hubs and give him my previous take-off BB5's. I'm a Clyde with plenty of crashes under my belt so this 24-spoke wheelset isn't intended for me personally. My son's OE wheels will go onto my vacation bike to upgrade those craptastic wheels when I next see the bike.

It's worth mentioning that if you use PayPal "Bill-Me-Later" option for the first time, you'll get a one-time $10 credit.

 

[Samulele77]

Just bought a set!

I am thrilled to try them on my Spark ! I had Mavic on my road bike for years and always have been happy. Sure if you're a downhill and big drop fan these sucks and I would suggest to not waste your money!

 

[CharacterZero]

I am thrilled to try them on my Spark ! I had Mavic on my road bike for years and always have been happy. Sure if you're a downhill and big drop fan these sucks and I would suggest to not waste your money!

There is a thread currently going over in the best deals forum...Use STRAV15 for 15% off......

If you just ordered, I'd pick up the phone and call them and tell them you messed up and didn't use the code on checkout. They are an upstanding company and might take care of you.

 

[Samulele77]

Ah too bad! I set the order yesterday and was shipped today.
Anyway for a $100 bucks including shipping is not that bad... I can bite the bullet.

Thanks!

 

[CFoster]

Note that this deal is for the "UB" or V Brake track rim version (hence the compromise in rim stiffness).

I'm sure the pure disc version is stiffer.

Also for those that are concerned about weight, the hubs are probably overweight as they have a steel axle (if I can remember correctly).

P

That's generally opposite to my sentiment. The Mavic XC 717 V-brake rim weighs 420g, the disc rim 395. The Mavic XM719 V-brake rim 475g, the disc rim is 460g. Rim weight alone obviously doesn't determine rim stiffness, but they do require vertical sidewalls with excess material to stand up to braking.

I think V-brake "versions" of a particular rim are stronger, but who knows? You'd have to run some crush tests to really know. (We actually contemplating that...).

But on the flip side, I don't think Disc "versions" are stronger either. I think disc brake systems have been marketed as better than V-brake systems, and over time there's been some kind of marketing spill over effect such that disc rims are now better than V-brake ones. Is that possible?

 

[Mr.P]

That's generally opposite to my sentiment. The Mavic XC 717 V-brake rim weighs 420g, the disc rim 395. The Mavic XM719 V-brake rim 475g, the disc rim is 460g. Rim weight alone obviously doesn't determine rim stiffness, but they do require vertical sidewalls with excess material to stand up to braking.

I think V-brake "versions" of a particular rim are stronger, but who knows? You'd have to run some crush tests to really know. (We actually contemplating that...).

But on the flip side, I don't think Disc "versions" are stronger either. I think disc brake systems have been marketed as better than V-brake systems, and over time there's been some kind of marketing spill over effect such that disc rims are now better than V-brake ones. Is that possible?

I think the shapes of the rims and where the material goes into that shape is where some of the rim stiffness comes.

The rims on the disc brake version of these wheels is a different shape, I can only assume they are better. User reviews talk up their stiffness. I have not ridden the disc brake version.

But I did ride the rim brake version for about 6 months. If you push them hard into turns, they wander. I'm 190 kitted up. Riders just need to match my experience to their riding to see if the wheels are a good fit. Some will, some won't.

The bladed spokes also caught a crosswind on a fast water bar jump and pushed the bike to the side :eekster: . I was barely able to ride that out, bent the rim, and retired them.

I think for XC they are a nice set up. Beyond that, I'm not so sure.

P

 

[Samulele77]

It appears to me that all bad comments on these wheels are made from those who ride outside what these Mavic are made for. Apparently Mavic rates the Crossride UB as cross-mountain; if you take them outside that range they'll fail. But this is valid for any wheelset; try an extreme MTB set on a XC ride ...you won't break the wheels but maybe something else...I just think you can't throw s****t on components if you don't use them right. Although, I still have to try them in my XC/AM rides...

Stiffness is also very relative concept outside a test lab; it varies from rider to rider, mounted tires, type of surface, speed, ...and much more than just a missed corner episode or a jump.
Maybe I just hope I made a good purchase for $89 bucks

 

[Samulele77]

It appears to me that all bad comments on these wheels are made from those who ride outside what these Mavic are made for. Apparently Mavic rates the Crossride UB as cross-mountain; if you take them outside that range they'll fail. But this is valid for any wheelset; try an extreme MTB set on a XC ride ...you won't break the wheels but maybe something else...I just think you can't throw s****t on components if you don't use them right. Although, I still have to try them in my XC/AM rides...

Stiffness is also very relative concept outside a test lab; it varies from rider to rider, mounted tires, type of surface, speed, ...and much more than just a missed corner episode or a jump.
Maybe I just hope I made a good purchase for $89 bucks