Not for a Cat. 1 winning XC racer. You'll be fine. :thumbsup:juan_speeder said:
2010 Delerium, 66, and 5000' climbs
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That all sounds good to me.PsyCro said:
Any time I lose on the climb, I'll make up on the DH
I know it doesn't work that way, but I think I can climb with a >35 <40 pound rig without much handicap, as long as I'm not racing someone on a 20 pound hardtail to the top.
That said, with what my skills are right now, I know I'm buying too much bike, but I merely see it as an opportunity for growth.
Hi juan_speeder!
As others have said here, you will definitely be able to achieve what you're looking for, especially with an intelligent build on the bike.
As you might know, in 2004, 2005 and 2006 we had approximately a dozen customers who "raced" the Test of Metal XC race in Squamish BC on V-tachs! The course is about 65 - 70km long, and has over 4000' of climbing in it (www.testofmetal.com). One customer even achieved a 3 hour, 45min time in the race, coming in the top 10% of riders in the non-pro men's division (yes, he is a freak!). So, it is doable for sure.
On top of that, the 2010 Delirium has (as craigstr mentions) - by far - the best pedaling position of any longer travel bike that we've designed. IMHO this frame climbs better with a fixed travel 180mm fork on it (i.e. 66 or Totem) than the 2009 frame climbs with a 160mm fork. In fact, i would probably state that it climbs as well as the 2009 frame can climb with a travel adjustable fork in the 140mm position: yes, the seated climbing position and pedaling is that much better. Of course, NONE of the technical performance of the frame has been compromised - in fact, it's even slightly better in serious descents as well!
Also, as you mentioned, with a 1.125 steerer on the 66, you should be able to run a zero stack headset which will help keep the front end reasonably low to help get over the front of the bike.
Just be conscious of your build and if you are at all planning to have DH tires, you might want to have a second set of single ply tires for those days with a lot of climbing in them
Cheers!
As others have said here, you will definitely be able to achieve what you're looking for, especially with an intelligent build on the bike.
As you might know, in 2004, 2005 and 2006 we had approximately a dozen customers who "raced" the Test of Metal XC race in Squamish BC on V-tachs! The course is about 65 - 70km long, and has over 4000' of climbing in it (www.testofmetal.com). One customer even achieved a 3 hour, 45min time in the race, coming in the top 10% of riders in the non-pro men's division (yes, he is a freak!). So, it is doable for sure.
On top of that, the 2010 Delirium has (as craigstr mentions) - by far - the best pedaling position of any longer travel bike that we've designed. IMHO this frame climbs better with a fixed travel 180mm fork on it (i.e. 66 or Totem) than the 2009 frame climbs with a 160mm fork. In fact, i would probably state that it climbs as well as the 2009 frame can climb with a travel adjustable fork in the 140mm position: yes, the seated climbing position and pedaling is that much better. Of course, NONE of the technical performance of the frame has been compromised - in fact, it's even slightly better in serious descents as well!
Also, as you mentioned, with a 1.125 steerer on the 66, you should be able to run a zero stack headset which will help keep the front end reasonably low to help get over the front of the bike.
Just be conscious of your build and if you are at all planning to have DH tires, you might want to have a second set of single ply tires for those days with a lot of climbing in them
Cheers!
just to chime in
After a season of riding and climbing on my '09 DT I found that by the end of the year I was climbing better with my Lyrik U-Turn in the 160mm position and my head tube in its slackest position. In fact, the steepest HT setting and lowest for weight felt too far forward, even when climbing.
Noel: Do you think I would be just as well of with a 180mm 66 Ti on my '09 Frame?
I'm not a Cat 1 by any stretch of the imagination but I can pedal. The sad thing is that the hurt I lay down on my friends on the road gets paid back in spades on the trail. I need to figure that one out somehow
After a season of riding and climbing on my '09 DT I found that by the end of the year I was climbing better with my Lyrik U-Turn in the 160mm position and my head tube in its slackest position. In fact, the steepest HT setting and lowest for weight felt too far forward, even when climbing.
Noel: Do you think I would be just as well of with a 180mm 66 Ti on my '09 Frame?
I'm not a Cat 1 by any stretch of the imagination but I can pedal. The sad thing is that the hurt I lay down on my friends on the road gets paid back in spades on the trail. I need to figure that one out somehow
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