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I'm probably ordering one of these 2008 Asta models tomorrow (Friday) morning. Other than being 2 lbs lighter, and the SRAM V9 vs Shimano XT debate, are there any other significant differences I should know about between the Expert and Pro?

I have no problem springing for the pro if it I will notice the differences... but I'm new to mountain biking so I feel like going with the pro might be completely wasted. And in fact, the Devo seat looks racier, and maybe is more uncomfortable for leisurely rides?

Also, regarding sizing: I'm 6'0" tall and 190lbs if that matters. I'm thinking of going with the 18" size even though it's the top of the recommendation. Thoughts?
 

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Welcome to the FORUMz..................

rumatt said:
I'm probably ordering one of these 2008 Asta models tomorrow (Friday) morning. Other than being 2 lbs lighter, and the SRAM V9 vs Shimano XT debate, are there any other significant differences I should know about between the Expert and Pro?

Also, regarding sizing: I'm 6'0" tall and 190lbs if that matters. I'm thinking of going with the 18" size even though it's the top of the recommendation. Thoughts?
My view on the X9 vs the PRO...................
In this corner we have the: 08' ASTA PRO

Fork: Rock Shox Reba Race* 100mm Travel..Motion Control / Remote L/O
External Rebound / Low-Spd Compression / External Floodgate better / lighter
Shock: Manitou Swinger X3 Air* SPV / Manual L/O Overide better / lighter

Shifters: Shimano XT Rapidfire Plus personal preference
Front Derailleur: Shimano XT personal preference
Rear Derailleur: Shimano XT Shadow personal preference

Crankset: TruVativ Stylo 3.3 Team (44/32/22T) better
Bottom-Bracket: TruVativ GXP Team better
Cassette: SRAM PG-980 lighter
Brakes/Levers: Avid Juicy-7 Hydraulic Disc Brakes Stopping power plus / lighter
Rims: Sun Equalizer EQ23 Welded Rims better
Handlebar: FSA XC-190 lighter
Seatpost: FSA Carbon Pro lighter
Saddle: WTB Devo Team lighter
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And in this corner:
08' ASTA EXPERT X9

Fork: Rock Shox Reba SL* 100mm Travel..Motion Control / Remote Lockout
External Rebound / Low-Spd Compression
Shock: Rock Shox Monarch 3.3 Air*..3-Position Platform/Lockout Switch

Shifters: SRAM X9 Trigger personal preference
Front Derailleur: SRAM X9 personal preference
Rear Derailleur: SRAM X9 personal preference

Crankset: FSA V-Drive MegaExo (44/32/22T)
Bottom-Bracket: FSA MegaExo
Cassette: SRAM PG-970 9-spd (11-34T)
Brakes/Levers: Hayes Stroker Trail Hydraulic Disc Brakes better modulation
Rims: Sun Equalizer EQ23 Rims sleaved
Handlebar: FSA XC-280 OS
Seatpost: FSA SL-250
Saddle: WTB Pure V Race​
The components not listed are the same on either bike..

Both bikes are well built and a steal for there asking price..
But, the extra $300 for the PRO is more like $500 plus in upgrades..

Jake

Lighter bikes pedal faster uphill
 

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Thanks Jake. That was helpful!

I think I may actually prefer the X9's shifters, brakes, and possibly seat... so I'm leaning toward the X9.

Can you expand on "better" for the shock and fork? Any specific qualities in particular? I'm not finding a lot of reviews on them.
 

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the Reba race has a floodgate adjustment and it has lockout. The Swinger X3 and Monarch i'm not sure. I've always liked the Manitou air shocks especially the new Swingers and evolvers. They have a good midstroke support unlike other air shocks which just bottom out. Never tried the Monarch so i cant comment there. As for Sram vs Shimano, i'm a new Sram convert and am with you there. The Stroker Trails are also the brakes of my choice... XD
 

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The higher end suspension components offer a"little" more adjustability..In this case it's not a real big deal, both bikes have sweet offerings..

The X9 is a balanced built bike..I personally would have bought one if I was in the market for a complete ASTA..But all I wanted was the frameset/shock so I could build a sub 25pound XC F/S rig..
And I did, it came out at 24.69 pounds with peds

The SRAM X9 is a total winner in my book..All my bikes are Powered by SRAM..Good stuff..


So what's it gonna be, blue or orange?

Jake

PS..Strokers on my ATLAS (custom) Sporty and Juicy Carbons on the ASTA (super) PRO
 

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rumatt said:
BLUE!!!!

Thanks guys. It's super hard not to climb the ladder, but in this case I think the X9 makes more sense. We'll see if I can not change my mind for at least an hour. :)

Now I just need to pick a size. :madman:
I've had my X9 for a little over a week now and love it a little more each ride. Worked out a few bugs after the first ride and it's been an absolute beast since. :thumbsup:

20" is 30 lbs even
 

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nothing like a Blur LT. The Blur LT is a VPP and the Asta is a 4 bar. Asta has 100mm travel and Blur has 135mm. Geometry is different as well. Blur LT is more agressive AM geometry while Asta is more no BS XC racing geometry... The Asta design would be similar to other 4 bar bikes... Though for some reason, it pedals like a goat... The bike just refuses to bob like other 4 bars...
 

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My similarity comparison was in the way it LOOKS only. And of course Looks are deceiving, as I said, I could not get a clear pic of the SC. Thanks for clearning that up.

I am trying to get a feel for "feel" of the Asta. I am toying with the idea of a new bike ... mostly for component upgrades. As I look at the bikes in my price point - I really like the Look of the Asta, but really like the feel of my current bike, just not real thrilled about the components.

Right now I ride an '04 Marin Rock Springs with 6" of travel set to about 5" and I ride it at the 100mm fork range. I have an alpine link in the front which slackens the head to around 69* from just under 71* stock. But that suspension is more like a VPP (at least that is what I understand it to be).

Though it is an '04 I bought it new last year, but the parts are still dated compared to what is out there now.

The Rock Springs is more of an AM bike, but I think I would like the lighter feel of the Asta if I could like the ride/suspension.
 

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The Marin Rock Springs is nothing like the VPP. Unlike the VPP, the Marin FS design shortens the wheelbase as it goes through travel. That makes it twitcher when you get into more aggressive riding.

The Asta is going to be a very fast pedaler compared to the rock springs. It will out sprint it, feel much more nimble and less clumsy. You must udnerstand you're like comparing apples and oranges... Though the Asta is no slouch. It can still handle some gnar despite it's XC roots.
 

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Ya I am on to the Apples and Oranges thing. I just would not want the Asta to be a step back in design. I am guessing it is just a whole different beast all together .... which could actually be fun. Besides, being more "Nimble and less clumsy" - as you put it - may solve my main complaint with the RS .... for me it is not flickable enough (not really flickable at all)

As the RS not being a spin off of VPP, that is a subject for other debates. Patents prevent it from being exactly like a VPP, but some have compared it to the VPP design of the Blur.

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=3754&highlight=pivot+point - And see page 2 for tavel compare pics

http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=276979&highlight=pivot+point

Me? I dont really care, it rides nice ... I am just looking for something different. I like the looks, weight and price point of the Asta X9
 

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linkage... i love that program... helps me pass the time when i get bored... XD

If you're looking for a versatile FS rig, you cant go wrong with the Asta. It's just a very capable rig. It makes you able to pedal like you've got a motor in your legs and handles the rough... Hell, imo, i think it would make an awesome 4X rig as well...

From stuff like this



to stuff like this

 

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But does it Climb like a Monkey :D

Here in North Fl we (obviously) have very few long climbs. Most trails have these short quick up / down things no bigger than a small house. They can be littered with Rocks, but are usually packed dirt. Me, I hate climbing, but need to to enjoy going down. Does the design of the Asta lend itself to "digging in" on those short hops?
 

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thats what the ASTA is made for bro!!!she is a whitetail at climbing....very agile, feels light, minimum pedal bob if non, very stable....heck you name it!!!!hey, too many questions and no trigger being pulled hahaha....you wont be disappointed
 

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North Fl. ehh?

Me too. and also looking at an Asta Pro! This thread has been usefull so far

is the asta pro really 26.5lbs?
 

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Very cool!

Santos is some fun stuff! the 12 hr. race there a few months ago was a good time!

I'm up in Tallahassee, so i'm within riding distance of Tom Brown. Good stuff!!
 
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