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looking for a new fs rig. im shopping for a bike in the $2000 range. ive pretty much narrowed it down to these two bikes and need opinions. i ride pretty much xc, firetrails and enjoy downhills, nothing too crazy. if you guys have any other suggestions on other bikes, feel free to chime in. thnx.

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Would be the Stumpy I have spent alot of time on one and it dos everything well. It might be a little bit more money but check out the Rocky Mountain ETSX 30. My current bike is an ETSX 70 and I have never ridden a better bike if the frame fits you well you can't beat it for a trail XC and occasional race bike.
 

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what do you guys think about the 2006 kona dawg deluxe? i know the 05 version is better equipped in terms of components, but how do you think it compares to the stumpy and trance. ive read that the kona is more all mountain, but it climbs like a goat, so i think that this bike would work out for me.
 

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Your outher choices are better

If I were looking at a hard tail I would concider a Kona but I have ridden and don't like their full suspension bikes. I have ridden many faux bar bikes (pivot on the seat stay) and I don't find they work as well as a horst link bike. Dave Turner said in an interview less than a year ago that the only way to build a truly good suspension was to use a horst link and that was why he paid to use it. I guess he got sick of paying and now he looks like a fool for saying one thing a doing another. Konas are well built (tough as nails) but with that design and all the brake jack I didn't like the ride.
 

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got a kona

well guys i got a 2005 kona dawg dee lux, its specd just like the 2006 dawg primo but for much less. i got this bike because i was looking more down the line and more all mountain seems more appealing to me. ive also been researching and the bike got rave reviews, and alot of the owners said it climbed great which was very important to me. so i havent got a chance to ride it yet since its been raining but i'll check in as soon as i do. thanks for your input.

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I've been looking at the Stumpjumper FSR, Trance 2, Scott Genius MC-50 and Specialized FSR XC for a long long time. I finally made my decision on -which- bike; it will be the Trance 2. The bike is not sold in The Netherlands however... so now I have to decide -where-.

The FSR will be replaced by a new model FSR in 1 or 2 years I think. If I were you; definitely go for the Trance 2. Well-engineered suspension technology that will be offered by Giant for the upcoming (let's say) 4-5 years.
 

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Xioz said:
I've been looking at the Stumpjumper FSR, Trance 2, Scott Genius MC-50 and Specialized FSR XC for a long long time. I finally made my decision on -which- bike; it will be the Trance 2. The bike is not sold in The Netherlands however... so now I have to decide -where-.

The FSR will be replaced by a new model FSR in 1 or 2 years I think. If I were you; definitely go for the Trance 2. Well-engineered suspension technology that will be offered by Giant for the upcoming (let's say) 4-5 years.
Almost every year Specialized is modifying something in their bikes, but I think Giant also. Both bikes are very good in their suspension technology, Specialized warranty is awesome, I don't know about Giant, but I think it's also great.

Try both bikes and see wich one fits you better. Personally I like the Stumpy, but when you ride them probably one will make more sense to you.
 

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NEWBIErider said:
well guys i got a 2005 kona dawg dee lux, its specd just like the 2006 dawg primo but for much less. i got this bike because i was looking more down the line and more all mountain seems more appealing to me. ive also been researching and the bike got rave reviews, and alot of the owners said it climbed great which was very important to me. so i havent got a chance to ride it yet since its been raining but i'll check in as soon as i do. thanks for your input.

Ricky
Nice choice on the Dawg Dee-Lux... I was in your shoes a few months ago, looking at the FSR Comp, Trance 2, Reign 2, and the Dawg Dee-Lux. I had no idea which was the "best", but I knew I couldn't go wrong with any of them. That being said, when I found a brand new '05 Dawg Primo and test rode it, I knew I had to have it. It didn't hurt that I bought the thing on a business trip in Minnesota in November either! There's nothing like getting a $3000 bike for $1950!!

As far as the brake jack is concerned...I have not noticed it much if any, and I think that if anyone can make faux bar work well, it's Kona. Just my opinion...

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TORO1968 said:
Nice choice on the Dawg Dee-Lux... I was in your shoes a few months ago, looking at the FSR Comp, Trance 2, Reign 2, and the Dawg Dee-Lux. I had no idea which was the "best", but I knew I couldn't go wrong with any of them. That being said, when I found a brand new '05 Dawg Primo and test rode it, I knew I had to have it. It didn't hurt that I bought the thing on a business trip in Minnesota in November either! There's nothing like getting a $3000 bike for $1950!!

As far as the brake jack is concerned...I have not noticed it much if any, and I think that if anyone can make faux bar work well, it's Kona. Just my opinion...

-Jordan
did you get to test ride the other bikes? i test rode the trance and the stumpy, couldnt really tell if i liked them because i need to have it on the trail to see how it feels. what i really like about the stumpy is the "lockout" pos.on the fox triad shock. the dawg seems like it wont bob too much on the climb once i dial it in. but still havent got a chance to test it out.

btw Jordan, how do you like your bike?
 

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did you get to test ride the other bikes? i test rode the trance and the stumpy, couldnt really tell if i liked them because i need to have it on the trail to see how it feels. what i really like about the stumpy is the "lockout" pos.on the fox triad shock. the dawg seems like it wont bob too much on the climb once i dial it in. but still havent got a chance to test it out.

btw Jordan, how do you like your bike?
I test rode all of the bikes, and I ended up getting it narrowed down to the Reign 2 and the Dawg Primo. I really like the Specialized, but seeing as my brother is set on getting one and the fact that I ride with him all the time, it made sense for me to get something a bit different. I can always trade off and ride his FSR...it's like having two bikes but only paying for one! :)

I thought the Trance 2's steering was a bit twitchy for my taste, and I didn't like how passive its suspension felt. The Reign 2 felt awesome, however its 33 lb weight and some of the components (Nixon fork, Alex rims, etc.) steered me away. Also, its slack head angle and relatively active suspension (compared to the Trance) were most likely a bit excessive for the type of riding areas we have available here in the Midwest.

That left me with the Dawg Primo. :D To me, it feels just as good, if not better than the FSR, weighs only 28 lb compared to the hefty Reign, doesn't have twitchy steering (it's not all floppy and chopper-like either!), and has a very,very nice component group for the money I paid. In addition, the suspension works really well and is active enough to smooth out a wide variety of bumps and drops. Also, I am not afraid to beat on the thing and push the bike past its intended limits. If I break this frame, I'll probably be laying in a hospital bed because of it! That being said, I absolutely LOVE the bike. I don't think I've ever had so much fun riding and can't wait for this Spring and Summer.

Kona seems to build strong, FUN bikes. They might not have the newest technology or build them the lightest, but the bikes they produce always seem to bring smiles to riders' faces. And that, my friends, is what this is all about, isn't it? :)

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I test rode all of the bikes, and I ended up getting it narrowed down to the Reign 2 and the Dawg Primo. I really like the Specialized, but seeing as my brother is set on getting one and the fact that I ride with him all the time, it made sense for me to get something a bit different. I can always trade off and ride his FSR...it's like having two bikes but only paying for one! :)

I thought the Trance 2's steering was a bit twitchy for my taste, and I didn't like how passive its suspension felt. The Reign 2 felt awesome, however its 33 lb weight and some of the components (Nixon fork, Alex rims, etc.) steered me away. Also, its slack head angle and relatively active suspension (compared to the Trance) were most likely a bit excessive for the type of riding areas we have available here in the Midwest.

That left me with the Dawg Primo. :D To me, it feels just as good, if not better than the FSR, weighs only 28 lb compared to the hefty Reign, doesn't have twitchy steering (it's not all floppy and chopper-like either!), and has a very,very nice component group for the money I paid. In addition, the suspension works really well and is active enough ft smooth out a wide variety of bumps and drops. I also am afraid to beat on the thing and push the bike past its intended limits. If I break this frame, I'll probably be laying in a hospital bed because of it! That being said, I absolutely LOVE the bike. I don't think I've ever had so much fun riding and can't wait for this Spring and Summer.

Kona seems to build strong, FUN bikes. They might not have the newest technology or build them the lightest, but the bikes they produce always seem to bring smiles to riders' faces. And that, my friends, is what this is all about, isn't it? :)

-Jordan
Thanks for the input Jordan!!!
 
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