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How many would want a all Carbon Flux or Nitrous

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barrows said:
Hey Turner Bikes,

I hope that there is a burner replacement coming. I'm looking for the perfect epic xc and endurance race bike, and a slightly lighter, 4" travel version of the burner would fit the bill perfectly. Right now I'm looking at the racer x-100 and truth, but a 4" for 100mm fork turner at around 5.5 lbs. or lighter would be my dream ride. I am sure you could sell tons of them with the popularity of endurance racing ever on the rise and so many people looking to extend their range in the big epic ride world! I have my fingers crossed that this bike will happen for the '05 year. If it is available I will buy!
I have heard a lot of people here on these forums say that the Titus is a better race bike than the Turner. I wonder if that opinion will change once the nitrous comes out? It looks like the Nitrous is going to be a "burner" on weight watchers. I would think the handling would be the same on the '05 nitrous. :confused:

Be cool if Turner would release the bikes early to some magazine reviews (vs a Racer X and maybe a ASR-SL, Truth).
 

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Any idea what the weight will be on this frame?

It's gonna be burly, ok, even more burly than the DHR? (never heard of broken DHR's)

Segment?

Will the geometry be like it was on IB?

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The Highline will also be a reality this upcoming year. It is definitely the hardest bike David has worked on and thus taking the most amount of time.
 

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Name Game

Flux..... simple single syllable word, with a connection to metal working. It stuck.

Nitrous..... a step from the old 02, but carrying on the gas theme. Light, and generally know to radically increase speed when added to an engine, of in this case the rider is the engine.

Highline.... not the low line associated with the weak or less talented riders, skiers etc.
I remember racing the National DH series in 2000 on the Utah course that went into a very deep luge through heavy brush near the bottom of the run. In each corner I could see a line almost 2 feet above the dusty ditch we were racing in that was one tire width wide. That "Highline" could only be ridden if you were fast enough and skilled enough to hold it.

DHR.... how original. Sorry

5 Spot... inspired by the personalized license plates we have so many of here in Cal. Get yer point across as quickly as possible, we're all doin 80!

Rail... a berm

One more to come, and it will not impress anyone. See 5 Spot for originality. As usual I hope the frame inspires more than the name. Maybe I should trademark that last line whatta ya think
The frame inspires more than the name.... I have read worse

Happy Trails

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turnerbikes said:
Flux..... simple single syllable word, with a connection to metal working. It stuck.

Nitrous..... a step from the old 02, but carrying on the gas theme. Light, and generally know to radically increase speed when added to an engine, of in this case the rider is the engine.

Highline.... not the low line associated with the weak or less talented riders, skiers etc.
I remember racing the National DH series in 2000 on the Utah course that went into a very deep luge through heavy brush near the bottom of the run. In each corner I could see a line almost 2 feet above the dusty ditch we were racing in that was one tire width wide. That "Highline" could only be ridden if you were fast enough and skilled enough to hold it.

DHR.... how original. Sorry

5 Spot... inspired by the personalized license plates we have so many of here in Cal. Get yer point across as quickly as possible, we're all doin 80!

Rail... a berm

One more to come, and it will not impress anyone. See 5 Spot for originality. As usual I hope the frame inspires more than the name. Maybe I should trademark that last line whatta ya think
The frame inspires more than the name.... I have read worse

Happy Trails

David Turner
The name on the front means more than the one on the back. That really doesn't translate very well to cycling. :confused: You could name it 5 flamming doggie poos to match the high ratings that the Turner frames recieve on MTBR.com ( guess they are chills now, but back in the day.....) I think a lot of people would go with that name as long as it rode like a Turner. I like the sound of "nitrous" and "flux".

You can trade mark this one: 2005, Nitrous and Flux, they ride better than your girlfriend........ffffsings karaoke!

I would hope they would. ;)
 

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turnerbikes said:
One more to come, and it will not impress anyone. See 5 Spot for originality. As usual I hope the frame inspires more than the name. Maybe I should trademark that last line whatta ya think
The frame inspires more than the name.... I have read worse

Happy Trails

David Turner
Hey Dave, the idea for that "one more to come" that I've heard being thrown around would be cool! it has a couple of meanings that are great - but it may not be the one you are going with - but you should!
 

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roy harley said:
I heard that there are going to be two new frames (race oriented) that will replace the Burner frame. Both will be lighter than the current burner but they will be in the price range of the 5 spot, if not more. The will not be out till early 2005.

One is the "Nitrous" which I have seen the pictures is supposively the 3" version:
http://www.singletrackworld.co.uk/article.php?sid=1313.

Then there is a "Flux" model which I have only heard about to have 4" of travel. Has anyone else heard or seen anything about this other bike, the "Flux"???
any chance of seeing some updated "Nitrous" bike porn out there? :)
 

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turnerbikes said:
Flux..... simple single syllable word, with a connection to metal working. It stuck.

Nitrous..... a step from the old 02, but carrying on the gas theme. Light, and generally know to radically increase speed when added to an engine, of in this case the rider is the engine.

Highline.... not the low line associated with the weak or less talented riders, skiers etc.
I remember racing the National DH series in 2000 on the Utah course that went into a very deep luge through heavy brush near the bottom of the run. In each corner I could see a line almost 2 feet above the dusty ditch we were racing in that was one tire width wide. That "Highline" could only be ridden if you were fast enough and skilled enough to hold it.

DHR.... how original. Sorry

5 Spot... inspired by the personalized license plates we have so many of here in Cal. Get yer point across as quickly as possible, we're all doin 80!

Rail... a berm

One more to come, and it will not impress anyone. See 5 Spot for originality. As usual I hope the frame inspires more than the name. Maybe I should trademark that last line whatta ya think
The frame inspires more than the name.... I have read worse

Happy Trails

David Turner
Can you tell us any info on the differences of the Flux and the Nitro? :confused:
 

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CrashTheDOG said:
Ah man :( , I friggin' hate suspense. Whatever the ending, I'd better start increasing the resources in my recreational slush fund. The tough decision will be do I want more or less travel than my Spot. Hmmm....
3" Nitrou and 4' Flux. 2 choices but it is still hard to leave 5" if your not much of a racer and do a lot of long trail rides. I think the Flux would make a great endurance racer. I would like to see a head to head with the Racer X 100.
 

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roy harley said:
3" Nitrou and 4' Flux. 2 choices but it is still hard to leave 5" if your not much of a racer and do a lot of long trail rides. I think the Flux would make a great endurance racer. I would like to see a head to head with the Racer X 100.
I am wondering about getting a FS bike. I was wondering why people think more travel is necessary for endurance races vs. XC races. I just did a solo 24 on a al. hardtail and I was fine. Not tooting my own horn or whatever, just wondering why it is people tend to beleive more travel is necessary for longer races. For me, anyway, I'd want it as light as possible, so when I am climbing some stupidly long climb at mile 87 I'm not thinking about throwing my 27lb bike over the cliff:)...if you know what I mean.
 

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FS advantages

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I am wondering about getting a FS bike. I was wondering why people think more travel is necessary for endurance races vs. XC races. I just did a solo 24 on a al. hardtail and I was fine. Not tooting my own horn or whatever, just wondering why it is people tend to beleive more travel is necessary for longer races. For me, anyway, I'd want it as light as possible, so when I am climbing some stupidly long climb at mile 87 I'm not thinking about throwing my 27lb bike over the cliff:)...if you know what I mean.
I went from HT to Soft tail, to 2.8" travel fs, to 4+" travel FS, and I got faster every step of the way. A four inch travel bike can weigh around 23 lbs. with agood parts pick. Of course it will depend on the course but IMO FS bikes work well for endurance racing because the rider can stay seated a lot more, the body gets spared from the energy robbing effects of absorbing the impacts and the rider then has more energy to put into the pedals late in the race. Unlike your typical 2 hour NORBA, endurance races are not won and lost in out of the saddle accelerations-the endurance racer tries to put in a steady effort-exactly what FS bikes excel at. For me to descend quickly on a hardtail also takes a lot of concentration and effort, mental energy that is often in short supply at the six hour mark in a race, in these conditions the stable handling of a good FS bike can be a godsend in terms of being able to relax on descents and still go fast. No doubt the hardtail does work for some people and especially for non-technical courses-I have even seen cross bikes at some 100 mile races (not under winners though)
I am fastest on a lightweight FS bike, with around four inches of travel, any time I have to deal with any amount of rough terrain for over a couple of hours-could be my weakness, or the suspension bikes strength!
 

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barrows said:
I went from HT to Soft tail, to 2.8" travel fs, to 4+" travel FS, and I got faster every step of the way. A four inch travel bike can weigh around 23 lbs. with agood parts pick. Of course it will depend on the course but IMO FS bikes work well for endurance racing because the rider can stay seated a lot more, the body gets spared from the energy robbing effects of absorbing the impacts and the rider then has more energy to put into the pedals late in the race. Unlike your typical 2 hour NORBA, endurance races are not won and lost in out of the saddle accelerations-the endurance racer tries to put in a steady effort-exactly what FS bikes excel at. For me to descend quickly on a hardtail also takes a lot of concentration and effort, mental energy that is often in short supply at the six hour mark in a race, in these conditions the stable handling of a good FS bike can be a godsend in terms of being able to relax on descents and still go fast. No doubt the hardtail does work for some people and especially for non-technical courses-I have even seen cross bikes at some 100 mile races (not under winners though)
I am fastest on a lightweight FS bike, with around four inches of travel, any time I have to deal with any amount of rough terrain for over a couple of hours-could be my weakness, or the suspension bikes strength!
Not only is it great for the endurance race application mentioned by Barrows but the same reason can be put towards all day EPIC XC rides. The more strength you can conserve during and all day ride the more enjoyable and further you can travel. I can't wait to see the spy photos of the new FLUX from Interbike next month!
 

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they're coming!

OK, they have been revealed to us now. I was told by Casey that the Flux will be shippig out to a store near you in November!!! Not to far away! :) No idea on when the Nitrous will be out..... :rolleyes:
 

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Its been a while BUT

The Nitrous is still not out yet. I found it interesting, and I don't know if anyone else really saw this but there was a Nitrous review done that ripped on the bike. With the bike not yet released of course there is no real credit to any review done to date except for a biased Turner employee or a test rider for one of the MB mags.
I thought it was fitting for MTBR.com to delete the nonsense that was happing with that review (that is now gone) from the reviews on the Nitrous. Thank you MTBR!!!

I can't wait to hear some real honest impressions of the Nitrous!
 

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The Nitrous is still not out yet.
Really? I could have sworn I saw one around here just the other day;)

Actually they have started shipping a few. The one in the pic belongs to friend and MHC sponsored rider Henry Horrocks (24hr solo racer). He has both a Flux and the Nitrous for racing this season. The Nitrous built up to 23lbs as pictured, but will soon be lighter with some help from things PUSH is working on for him. He's been raving out it, very light and fast, he likes the handling even better than his Flux. Said he's finding himself big-ringing a lot of stuff that he normally rides in the middle ring. Sweet bike for its intended purpose. He's been pleasantly surprised by how well is soaks stuff up for such a light and short travel bike, and at how stiff it is considering the frame weight.
Larry Mettler
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Curious, how much does Mr. Horrocks weigh??

There have been a few "mini-reviews" posted here. Velo Bum is on one and a number of us hopped on the Nitrous at IBike. It's a dedicated XC racer, and has to be viewed in that context.

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Turner Nitrous- SID World Cup fork, Fox RP3 shock. Pure rocket power. Scary light. Very quick handling but not twitchy. VERY long cockpit, extreme xc layout. SID fork surprisingly pleasant. Took the edge off everything but still allowed you to feel the trail. Not exactly plush overall but still not harsh. You knew rocks were going by under you but your vision was not jarred/blurred. Great climber, decent descender. Bike felt longer than the 0.5" longer tt than the Spot would suggest. Purebred racer. We were very afraid of the semislicks when heading out but they actually did pretty well. Fast bike. Good parts spec. See my Nitrous post for more pics.
 
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