[durkind]

So these two tires look pretty close in footprint/width size eventhough sizes say different (Rampage seems higher volume.) So for dry, rocky singletrack which would be better front tire? Which might roll faster and which would have better cornering? How would they do on rear also? I have someone giving me one of each.

Thanks

 

[shiggy]

So these two tires look pretty close in footprint/width size eventhough sizes say different (Rampage seems higher volume.) So for dry, rocky singletrack which would be better front tire? Which might roll faster and which would have better cornering? How would they do on rear also? I have someone giving me one of each.

Thanks

The Rampage is larger in all regards. I would run it on the front but you should try different setups for yourself and see what you like.

 

[durkind]

Okay, maybe it seems to me that the Nev has a squarer profile vs the Rampage rounder, thus making it look narrower? Anyways, keeping things apples to apples, comparing both tires in a 2.35 size which would roll faster, corner, etc. Possibly the nev would be a better front and Rampage better rear due to profile? Tread patterns are obviously pretty similar.

 

[baraant]

2.1 Nevegal = slow tire

I got 2 of these on a FS bike I ordered last year and here on hard dry, rooty and sometimes rocky technical singletrack they are slow as hell; at least compared to a Maxxis Crossmark.

 

[solara]

How's the traction between the Nevegals and Crossmarks?

 

[baraant]

I run the crossmark eXceptions and I have their air pressure at 32-29psi rear and 28psi front with tubes and I haven't noticed any traction difference between them and the Nevegals. Also I forgot to mention the rotating mass of the crossmarks is about a good 100g lighter at each wheel.

 

[ferday]

i have both crossmarks and nevegals, they aren't even similar in traction. the nevegal grips 3x better....but is 6x slower. i use the crossmarks as rear-only on the race bike.

the rampage is one of my favorite tires, faster then the nevegal with similar grip (nevegal slightly better) and very durable tire.


YMMV.

 

[baraant]

I found that with the Crossmarks above 32psi the traction goes down considerably and if you run them at the 35psi min they aren't that good. What pressure do you run them at?

 

[theycallmeE]

Okay, maybe it seems to me that the Nev has a squarer profile vs the Rampage rounder, thus making it look narrower? Anyways, keeping things apples to apples, comparing both tires in a 2.35 size which would roll faster, corner, etc. Possibly the nev would be a better front and Rampage better rear due to profile? Tread patterns are obviously pretty similar.

Hey durkind,

I've used both, and where I ride (dry, loose, rocks) the Rampage is a far superior tire in nearly every respect, IMHO. Fatter, more supple, better traction, better carving, faster rolling - I could go on and on. The Nevegal might be a little tougher in the sidewall, but that's not a good reason alone to buy a tire.

If you have to use one of each, run the Nev in back. The Rampage's fatter profile and more supple rubber compound will help you more in the front. Better yet, buy a second Rampage (they're pretty inexpensive) and be really happy:thumbsup: . Cheers,

E

 

[ferday]

i run mine at 27 psi. i like them alot in the rear for racing and hardpack riding....but anything loose and they are nearly useless.

 

[Jerk_Chicken]

Okay, maybe it seems to me that the Nev has a squarer profile vs the Rampage rounder, thus making it look narrower? Anyways, keeping things apples to apples, comparing both tires in a 2.35 size which would roll faster, corner, etc. Possibly the nev would be a better front and Rampage better rear due to profile? Tread patterns are obviously pretty similar.

Your observation is correct. I noted the same thing when I switched from Nevegal 2.35's to Rampages.

I have posted my feelings about them sometime about a year ago. In fact, I was running one of both. I prefer the Rampage well above the Nevegal, despite a small reduction in cornering traction. Like the old Fires, it produces controllable and correctable breakaways at the limit. The tradeoff is way better rolling and better maneuverability.

I also run my Rampages Nevegal style, with the ramps forward.

 

[durkind]

Hey durkind,

I've used both, and where I ride (dry, loose, rocks) the Rampage is a far superior tire in nearly every respect, IMHO. Fatter, more supple, better traction, better carving, faster rolling - I could go on and on. The Nevegal might be a little tougher in the sidewall, but that's not a good reason alone to buy a tire.

If you have to use one of each, run the Nev in back. The Rampage's fatter profile and more supple rubber compound will help you more in the front. Better yet, buy a second Rampage (they're pretty inexpensive) and be really happy:thumbsup: . Cheers,

E

Thanks for feedback. I have now tried both and "supple" is a great way to describe the Rampage. Makes for a nice ride up front.