2.1 tire?

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edved37

· #3 · Dec 14, 2021

I think Mezcals roll very well for their tread pattern, Vittoria Terreno's would be another pick. I've had good luck with some Rene Herse tires in 700x55 but depends on frame clearance.

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Lenny7

Discussion Starter · #4 · Dec 14, 2021

edved37 said:
I think Mezcals roll very well for their tread pattern, Vittoria Terreno's would be another pick. I've had good luck with some Rene Herse tires in 700x55 but depends on frame clearance.

I was looking at those 2 Vittoria tires. The Mezcals remind me of the Nano which I used to run. I really like the look of the Terreno's but if it gets muddy, they look like they could get a little sketchy with the lack of center tread.

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edved37

· #5 · Dec 14, 2021

Lenny7 said:
I was looking at those 2 Vittoria tires. The Mezcals remind me of the Nano which I used to run. I really like the look of the Terreno's but if it gets muddy, they look like they could get a little sketchy with the lack of center tread.

I ran 700x55 Rene Herse slicks at Midsouth/Landrun in 2020 in horrible mud conditions and they worked awesome actually. The lack of tread didn't build up mud and I was able to ride way more stuff than most.

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barelfly

· #6 · Dec 14, 2021

I have Teravail Sparwoods on my Cutthroat, 2.2”. I’ve ridden on a number of surfaces and they’ve been great. I can ride pretty well on the pavement with them, they’ve done well on the local MTB trails I ride and then of course the dirt roads and such. The tread pattern is a low-profile type tread. They came with the bike, and after 1,300 miles on them since I got the bike in June, I‘ll stick with those when I need to replace them.

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Lenny7

Discussion Starter · #7 · Dec 14, 2021

barelfly said:
I have Teravail Sparwoods on my Cutthroat, 2.2”. I’ve ridden on a number of surfaces and they’ve been great. I can ride pretty well on the pavement with them, they’ve done well on the local MTB trails I ride and then of course the dirt roads and such. The tread pattern is a low-profile type tread. They came with the bike, and after 1,300 miles on them since I got the bike in June, I‘ll stick with those when I need to replace them.

That's a good looking tire.

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norcalbike

· #8 · Dec 14, 2021

Have run mezcals and barzos on my gravel/ adventure rig with clearance for 2.1s. Highly recommend both. Barzo is better is looser/wetter stuff.

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Lenny7

Discussion Starter · #9 · Dec 15, 2021

norcalbike said:
Have run mezcals and barzos on my gravel/ adventure rig with clearance for 2.1s. Highly recommend both. Barzo is better is looser/wetter stuff. View attachment 1961211

That's a nice bike.
Anyone ever try the Maxxis Pace on gravel?

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jimPacNW

· #10 · Dec 15, 2021

Mezcals are fast, not super light, but still respectably light. I've raced on 2.25s quite a bit, they feel fast, and they are fast. They seem a lot tougher than thunder burts, but those are quite a bit lighter. Speaking of Schwalbe: Rocket Rons are fast, have good grip all around, including quite a bit of mud, and are really lightweight too (almost as light as TBs, RRs are maybe 620g in 29x229?, TBs are about 30g lighter?). I've raced Barzo's too, they are better in heavier mud than Mezcal, Rocket Rons seem similar to the Barzo to me, but RRs are quite a bit lighter (standard casing Mezcal is about 733g, or so I have written on one of my 29x225 sidewalls, Barzo should be similar) - with not as tough a sidewall. The sidewalls on Vittoria seem pretty tough, and they are typically difficult to install on a rim, they also seem to like a bit lower pressure due to the stiffer sidewall.
I vote Mezcal for what you are trying to do.

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Volsung

· #11 · Dec 15, 2021

I haven't tried them but I have Vredestein Spotted Cats on my wish list. 29x2.0 and 475g. They're probably pretty flimsy and wear fast, but they'd just be a play around tire anyway

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jrm

· #12 · Dec 21, 2021

I have 2.2 race kings on my HT.

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bitflogger

· #13 · Dec 28, 2021 (Edited)

Having or having worn out Race Kings, MSOs and the Rene Hearse knobby tires plus trying others mentioned, the RH are worth the money. The RH 48 mm and 55 mm we have in endurance version get to and hold speed better than racy MTB tires yet are super predictable off of pavement. For all the speed and nice feel, they don't get all mud packed and stupid like running a MTB race type tire on a gravel bike.

There are only two reasons to hesitate on the Rene Hearse knobby tires. 1) part of the stupid tan wall trend 2) price. For price they are in the league where you do get something for that premium. You get an amazing ability to cover distance and hold higher speed for how predictable they are in loose stuff, sand and mud.

You don't see the tan walls when riding. You can shield your eyes and plug your nose the rest of the time.

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tangerineowl

· #14 · Dec 31, 2021

Kenda Sabre Pro 2.05 in the TR version. Similar tread to the ThunderBurt across the middle.

TR model is one of the lighter options out there, but not stupid-light like three other tyres I know of.
Supple, and fast off paved. Could be a decent choice in the dry if you don't require huge amounts of grip.

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EOS_

· #15 · Jan 8, 2022

Greetings, just found this discussion, after doing MTB for years, I have my first gravel bike since 05/2021 - Marin Headlands 1, 2020. Got 2 wheelsets, one with narrow tires mainly for roads and one with wide to take some light terrain (as wide as they fit). Rear: Maxxis Rambler 50mm, front: Racing Ralph 2,1" (before it was on my MTB, it was to narrow, replaced it with 2,25" and used this one for this concept). I measured my ride times on the same course, roads with light terrain with both versions compared to my MTB XC HT, gravel with the narrow tires was significantly faster, but with the wider tires it was only a bit faster than the MTB (2,25" tires). I think wider tires (2,1" and above) on gravel are a bit nonsense. Then just take the MTB HT and have the advantages of flat bars, more stability and ride confidence in terrain. Yes, with drop bars you may be i bit faster than MTB HT, but the difference will be minimal, maybe even negligible. Wider tires just will not let you pick up more speed. This is my opinion from my experience.

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Lenny7

Discussion Starter · #16 · Jan 8, 2022

EOS_ said:
Then just take the MTB HT and have the advantages of flat bars

That exactly what I'm building.

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rlee

· #17 · Jan 8, 2022

Just built my old HT for gravel as we have a rail trail close by. I put on a set of Thunder Burts. I think all the options listed are pretty good so just look for a deal to save some .money.
What gearing are you going with?

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Lenny7

Discussion Starter · #18 · Jan 8, 2022

rlee said:
Just built my old HT for gravel as we have a rail trail close by. I put on a set of Thunder Burts. I think all the options listed are pretty good so just look for a deal to save some .money.
What gearing are you going with?

Have a 32 on the front and a 9-46 on the back.

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jrm

· #19 · Jan 10, 2022

Lenny7 said:
Turning a HT 29er into a gravel bike and want some higher volume tires. Any suggestions for some fast, maybe simi-slick 29x2.1 tires that work well on gravel?

2.1 race kings..
I have a pair im getting rid of..LMK

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EOS_

· #20 · Jan 11, 2022

jrm said:
2.1 race kings..
I have a pair im getting rid of..LMK

This is a good page, tire rolling resistance tests: https://www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/mtb-reviews To me for a 2.1 wide gravel Thunderbutr is the best option. In rolling resistance, Race king finished right behind it. Maybe the Speedking would be a good option, faster than Thunderburt. The fastest tire Schwalbe Big one, I wouldnt use it as a gravel all around, yes, really fast, but too slick.

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