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1981 Stumpjumper: Looking for some advice from you guys

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In early 1982, my wife and I bought matching 1981 Stumpjumpers from Cupertino Bike Shop, then located in Santa Clara, California. My wife’s bike was the earlier of the two, and had actually been the bike given to Cupertino BS by Specialized to be “prepped” for all the publicity photos for magazine ads, etc. The guys at Cupertino cut all the nubbies off the tires, and ensured the bike looked as good as it possibly could. Once all the photos had been taken, the bike was returned to Cupertino to sell.

After we moved to Colorado in 1985, we eventually sold both bikes to friends of ours and bought new bikes. This was in 1987 or 1988. One of the friends moved away, but the other is still local and remains a good friend. Anyway, last weekend, he and I got together for lunch, and I asked him if he still had the Stumpjumper. He said: “Yeah, its in the shed, do ya want it back?” Naturally, I said sure, and brought it home.

About the bike. Serial # T1J0291, built in October of 1981 I believe. All original except for the following: Rims, spokes & tires (due to a bent rim from a crash); shifters (one of the originals bit the dust in the same crash); grips (we replaced the originals in ’82 or ’83 with Tuan grips) and the pedals. All other components are absolutely original, including the saddle. It has the socket-type fork crown, not the biplane type. Still the original blue paint with white stickers, although 24+ years of riding has taken its toll, with some scratches and rock chips, but not too bad. No rust or corrosion due to the dry climate here in Colorado. It also has a Blackburn rack and bottle cage that were added when we bought the bike new. It’s still rideable, and looks pretty good now that I removed most of the dirt and grunge.

So here’s my question: As there seems to be some seriuous collector interest in these early Stumpjumpers, should I try to keep it as original as possible, or would it hurt its value to upgrade some of the components? I took it home with the intent of upgrading it and using it as a city bike or dirt road bike, but then discovered via the web that some folks collect these, and I would hate to “mess it up” if there really is value to keeping it original. I noticed that a 1985 Stumpjumper recently sold for about $850 on eBay, which seriously got my attention. I might even be open to selling it (and splitting the proceeds with my friend) if I received a reasonable offer.

What would you do??????
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Keep it

I think you should keep it. I do not think you'd get anywhere close to that 875.00 figure for this bike. I could be wrong but I see a lot of the very early StumJumpers going for 200-300. Sometimes less. If I ran across a great deal on one I'd probably just hang on to it and ride it. If in 10 years it was worth much more, then I'd consider selling it.
Build it up however you think you'd get the most use out of it. If it's pretty beat up, it would likely only be worth a few hundred at most (possibly less) . I'd find components that would have originally come on it, replace the worn out stuff, and ride it!!
A lot of us here keep pretty close watch on the market...

While very early Stumpies are cool...I'd be surprised if one sold for that kind of number unless it was pretty much NOS and completely original.


I'd say keep it too and used it as a town cruiser. If you do sell it...make sure it goes in the MTBR classifieds here, or on eBay. (just mind form rules in regards to selling stuff :) )
Rumpfy said:
A lot of us here keep pretty close watch on the market...

While very early Stumpies are cool...I'd be surprised if one sold for that kind of number unless it was pretty much NOS and completely original.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7203505518&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1

I definitely would not consider $875 the going rate for these things. That auction caught my eye as well and I can't figure out why it went for so much. It might have been because the seller (inadvertently?) misrepresented the bike as

"the first production Stumpjumper Specialized made"

which would not be true for a 1985 Sport model. The bidding history shows that it was a struggle between just two ebayers after it reached about $500. Maybe we can chalk it up to the coming holiday season? One of these folks might have a loved one who really wanted a vintage Stumpjumper...

However, I take it as consolation...now I don't feel bad for paying so much for my used bikes on Ebay and Craigslist.

geedubbayoo
That's not usual, and I'd not expect that to occur most of the time. That bike is in very nice condition, but the price seems high to me.
geedubbayoo said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7203505518&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1

I definitely would not consider $875 the going rate for these things. That auction caught my eye as well and I can't figure out why it went for so much. It might have been because the seller (inadvertently?) misrepresented the bike as

"the first production Stumpjumper Specialized made"

which would not be true for a 1985 Sport model. The bidding history shows that it was a struggle between just two ebayers after it reached about $500. Maybe we can chalk it up to the coming holiday season? One of these folks might have a loved one who really wanted a vintage Stumpjumper...

However, I take it as consolation...now I don't feel bad for paying so much for my used bikes on Ebay and Craigslist.

geedubbayoo
Yeah, I agree. The bidding on that is a bit suspect.
Thanks for the advice! I'm keeping it!

I'm going to order some new parts in the next few days (chain, brake stuff, cables, etc.)

One more question: Do you have a recommended 5-speed chain that is readily available? I was amazed to find that few seem to be around when I searched last night.
5 speed chain...

RickC5 said:
I'm going to order some new parts in the next few days (chain, brake stuff, cables, etc.)

One more question: Do you have a recommended 5-speed chain that is readily available? I was amazed to find that few seem to be around when I searched last night.
I'm not sure of the quality but Harris Cyclery (of Sheldon Brown fame) sells a chain that might work:

> Wipperman Traditional Bushing Type Chains
> These very high-quality N.O.S. chains are a good choice for older bikes
> with 5-speed or full width 6-speed freewheels.

You can order from them online but I'd call to make sure they're in stock. I'm in need of a 5 speed chain myself, so I'll be interested to see what the others recommend.

(By the way, are there rules against posting URLs to private vendors?)

Also, Rick, if you are concerned about the value of your bike it helps that it's an '81. You might have already seen this, but there's a wealth of information here:

http://www.firstflightbikes.com/stumpjum.htm

Good luck!

geedubbayoo
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RickC5 said:
I'm going to order some new parts in the next few days (chain, brake stuff, cables, etc.)

One more question: Do you have a recommended 5-speed chain that is readily available? I was amazed to find that few seem to be around when I searched last night.
Go with a SRAM PC-1. It's cheap and works great.

http://www.sram.com/en/sram/mountain/chains/singlecog/pc1.php
laffeaux said:
Hi Laffeaux,

Does this chain really work well with a 5 speed hub and a double or triple ring up front? I'm only asking because everyone who sells it advertises it as a "single speed" chain.

If you can recommend it based on experience with a 3ring/5speed combo then I'll take your advice and try one. The price is definitely right!

Thanks,
geedubbayoo
geedubbayoo said:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7203505518&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1

I definitely would not consider $875 the going rate for these things. That auction caught my eye as well and I can't figure out why it went for so much. It might have been because the seller (inadvertently?) misrepresented the bike as

"the first production Stumpjumper Specialized made"

which would not be true for a 1985 Sport model. The bidding history shows that it was a struggle between just two ebayers after it reached about $500. Maybe we can chalk it up to the coming holiday season? One of these folks might have a loved one who really wanted a vintage Stumpjumper...

However, I take it as consolation...now I don't feel bad for paying so much for my used bikes on Ebay and Craigslist.

geedubbayoo
Wow. Thats really high. I havent even seen the highly desirable first year 81 (or was it 82?) go for anything near that...
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