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15" Dawg = 2" more standover than 17"!?!

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I'm thinking about getting an '08 Dawg for my girlfriend. My local shop doesn't have a 15" in stock, but looking at the geometry, I came across an oddity that raised a red flag:

Standover:
15" frame = 31.5"
17" frame = 29.5"

A 17" will certainly be too long, and if the SO heights in the catalog are accurate, then the 15" will be too tall at the crotch (she doesn't have long legs.) Can anyone tell me if these measurements are accurate? Any 15" Dawg riders here willing to measure theirs for a pic? Greatly appreciated.

Josh aka 105mmop
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Hi I Beleive The 15 In Frame Upper Tube Is Straight And Not Bent Like The Larger Frames.
Sounds like that might be the case

KAHAIKAPU said:
Hi I Beleive The 15 In Frame Upper Tube Is Straight And Not Bent Like The Larger Frames.
It's odd though that Kona would sell a bike like this: In 2003, long before the curvy tubes, the Dawgs had straight top tubes for every size. When this was the case, the 15" had a 30", the 17" was listed at 31", so the 15" in 2003 was 1.5" lower than the current 15". If the 15" has no curvy tube for '08, then there's still another 1.5" to explain. Is this all due to the height of the unsprung, longer travel suspension? Seems like an awfully awkward package. Who would/could ride such a tall, short frame appropriately?

At any rate, I'm still hoping to hear from or see pics of some shorter riders next to their 15" Dawgs, pics of yardsticks next to a 15" unsprung, etc. Anyone?

Thanks again.
josh
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Here you go...these will give you an idea. I'm 5'6 & the standover barely fits me. So, probably too tall for her. I thought the sizing was weird myself. Shorter people are basically just SOL.

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tomsmoto said:
standover is irrelevant to proper fit.
But its not irrelevant to proper safety. Nothing like coming off the saddle to smash the goodies.:yikes:
Not to mention

frdfandc said:
But its not irrelevant to proper safety. Nothing like coming off the saddle to smash the goodies.:yikes:
If she can't stand over it, then she won't stand over it... and she won't ride it. Oh well :bluefrown:
It's not irrelevant if you can't even get your feet on the ground.
Thanks, irvintat!

irvintat said:
Here you go...these will give you an idea. I'm 5'6 & the standover barely fits me. So, probably too tall for her. I thought the sizing was weird myself. Shorter people are basically just SOL.
Yeah, it looks like that shock is wedged in there as tight as possible; no room for a lower toptube with this design. I guess with the 17" being a bit longer, they were able to run it lower? Yep, it's odd. Sure looks good though.

Anyway, thanks again for posting the pics. Saved me an expensive headache.
Josh
irvintat said:
It's not irrelevant if you can't even get your feet on the ground.
id be pretty surprised if you could find a bike with the proper top tube length, with a standover so high its actually a problem.

my girlfriend is 5'2 and rides a kikapu..
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