12mm bolt through replacement rear triangle for mojo
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According to the website, the HD swingarm is 435 mm in length as opposed to 429 mm. for the stock SL swingarm. I wonder what the weight difference is between the HD swingarm/link and the SL setup? Also, given that the HD has a different seat angle and BB height, I wonder how the HD rear swingarm will affect the Sl geometry? Hans?
Very interested in learning more about this idea. Anyone at Ibis try this yet? How did it work out? How do I get one? I am 6'4 225 lb. and have 10mm bolt on Havocs now. I am building 650b Blunts laced to 10mm thru bolt Hadleys right now and they are easily converted to 12mm.
I have a 2009 Mojo SL matte clear, blue links. I'll buy, be the guinea pig and report!
I have a 2009 Mojo SL matte clear, blue links. I'll buy, be the guinea pig and report!
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How is it a moot point, to replace an existing Sl/ rear triangle w/ the beefier HD through axle triangle, as opposed to buying an complete new HD frameset and lowering the travel? I see it as a component upgrade to the mojo and Mojo SL.
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so I have to buy an HD, steal the swingarm, buy a regular mojo, steal the frame? Very interesting...and then bam put it all together!
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That's sounding like plan. =]
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It was very interesting to me prior to knowing about the HD 140. W/o that option, the only way to go was to bolt on the HD rear onto a regular Mojo (or SL). But they weren't designed to do this. At best, it's a band-aid fix. Which is exactly how Hans sees it....he said "kind of...". It wasn't designed for this but you "could" do it.buggymancan said:
I would consider it a "good" option once I could see how it will affect the geometry and ultimately the ride characteristics. And even then, it's a lot to spend just for a TA. Have to buy the swingarm and link, new hub, build wheel, etc. And I called Ibis a few weeks ago about this......found out that it wouldn't be available for a year as Hans said. You also must consider the opportunity cost of waiting for this option to even become available.
With the HD 140 coming out the option above makes it less attractive. Yes you would have to spend more money but you would in essence have 2 bikes in one. Maybe I was a little harsh and premature to say it was a "moot point" but it definitely isn't as attractive as before.
That being said, I would still like to see what would happen though. I didn't want to discourage others but for me, the grey area isn't as grey anymore.
Hans,hanssc said:
Just in case there is some kind of freak accident, say where an HD bike falls out of a truck and the triangle gets mangled, I volunteer to purchase the swingarm. I will give it a good home and nurture it for life. I of course will mourn the loss of the HD triangle and set up a shrine for it on one of my local trails. Or, I could order an HD 140 and cannibalize my older bike I use for path riding on muddy days. I then could switch parts between my SL, HD, HD140. Oh,Oh! I have just reached a level of mass confusion. I must go ride! I'll check back in several hours.:crazy:
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For those wanting a beefier rear end on their mojo or mojo sl, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, try a 135x10mm thru bolt. I picked up a new Saint hub for $60 on Ebay, put an alum Hadley thru bolt thru it, and the difference is tremendous. Much stiffer. I still think the bike rode great without it, but for heavier & more aggressive riders the thru bolt is the way to go. Much cheaper option than HD / SL freakensteins... (that would be a cool option though!) ....and available now!
I can agree with this. I converted my Easton AM Havocs to 10mm bolt on and have 10mm thru bolt Hadleys and it does help. Also the 32 spoke Hadley's are stiffer then the 24 spoke Havocs under my weight. I am just trying to rationalize buying an HD. If the HD 140/160 was out when I purchased my SL it would have been a no brainer.
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Hi guys, new to this Ibis forum, but have been on the Ventana site for about 5 years. I have had 2 Ventana X5's but I'm now considering a swap to either a std mojo or a Turner 5 spot DW.
Up to now the Turner has the upper hand due to the stiffness i have read about, the one thing that is good about the Ventana is the bikes stiffness. This is the only area I'm a little bit bothered about with the Mojo.
The idea of a 10mm bolt up rear hub (my 3 sets of wheels are all hope pro2's) was in my head as a nice inexpensive solution.
How much does it help?
Superstar over on this side of the pond (England) do these little QR's. They seem a good idea rather than a full bolt up solution.
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any help or pointers as to the amount of differnce a bolt up rear hub makes would be of great help.
Thanks
Dave
Up to now the Turner has the upper hand due to the stiffness i have read about, the one thing that is good about the Ventana is the bikes stiffness. This is the only area I'm a little bit bothered about with the Mojo.
The idea of a 10mm bolt up rear hub (my 3 sets of wheels are all hope pro2's) was in my head as a nice inexpensive solution.
How much does it help?
Superstar over on this side of the pond (England) do these little QR's. They seem a good idea rather than a full bolt up solution.
any help or pointers as to the amount of differnce a bolt up rear hub makes would be of great help.
Thanks
Dave
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