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126mm Fox Vanilla & PAGING PUSH

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Davide

Discussion Starter · Dec 20, 2005 (Edited)

Microadjust Fox Vanilla & PUSH NEW PRODUCT?

Trying to fine tune the travel of my Vanilla 2006, I first tried hardware store 1"x3/8x10mm spacers, but could never cut/file/dremel to a decent precision ... some search on the net and I found a good option at
http://www.voltplastics.com Part number WF-1005-0406-0080 is 1.005 OD .406 ID and 2mm tall (http://www.voltplastics.com/special_flat_washers.html). Perfect for fine tuning the Vanilla in 2mm increments.The thin spacer main advantage is that it is very easy to cut the required split, and the split can be much smaller than the one shown below for the original spacer and the homemade 1"x3/8"x10mm. The catch is that voltplastics minimum order is $50. I was able to get a free sample of 20 but ...

Which brings us to PUSH: maybe PUSH can offer sets of fine-tuning-travel spacers? Either the 2mm type, or some other combination.

Of course it would be great if PUSH develops an external travel adjustment for the Vanilla. Just getting rid of disassembling the RL (i.e. developing an external adjuster similar to the Marzocchi AM) would be great, and from an engineering point of view it would seem fairly simple to do (what do I know, it might cost a gazillion to modify the control rod).
Anyway a Talasized PUSH Vanilla would be very nice and it should have a market since the Vanilla is more reliable than the Talas ...

PS My Vanilla 126 balances much nicer with the rear of my 5-spot. The set up has 2 2mm spacers in the LL control rod, 3 plus fox-20mm spacer in the RL upper, and 13 2mm in the RL.

PSPS One original reference to costum spacers is http://www.sweetspotbikes.com/FoxCustomSpacer/FoxCustomSpacer.html

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G-AIR

· #2 · Dec 20, 2005

4mm?

PS My Vanilla 126 balances much nicer with the rear of my 5-spot. The set up has 2 2mm spacers in the LL control rod, 3 plus fox-20mm spacer in the RL upper, and 13 2mm in the RL.

Are you really talking about 4mm here? Come On Now!
You must be very sensative to your travel ....126 vs. 130. Maybe the Pike is the fork for you. Then you can really dile it in...+ or 1mm.

Good Luck

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Davide

Discussion Starter · #3 · Dec 20, 2005 (Edited)

... external dial

G-AIR said:
Are you really talking about 4mm here? Come On Now!
You must be very sensative to your travel ....126 vs. 130.

Yes, 4mm makes a difference. You would be able to tell the difference between plus/minus 5mm headset spacer, won't you? you can detect the difference in the AC even more, because it influences the geometry of the bike.

The Talas used to have 3mm increments, the Marzocchi AM or Pike have even finer adjustments. I am stuck with 2mm increments ... after a good 30-60' disassambling/reassembling of the fork. Not something you are inclined to do a lot. I was tempted to go -6mm, but I went -4mm, The bike does as expected, it rides a bit "flatter" and "sags" into the rear, going uphill, a bit less (which will allow to perhaphs decrease the pressure a bit in the back: right now it is a bit to high). I might go -6 or even -8 but it is a pain to do and it will eventually start to compromise the performance going down ...

That is why it would be nice to have an external dial to complement the wonderful PUSH/Vanilla

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goatman

· #4 · Dec 21, 2005

Custom spacers

I've customized my '05 Vanilla RLC to 120mm travel and can definitely feel a difference in the handling of my Titus Motolite vs 130mm. More balanced & climbs better.
Had to have some nylon rod machined to my specs.
I just find it kind of weird that Fox doesn't have 10mm or 15mm spacers available aftermarket enabling easier custom travel tuning options, rather than just 100mm or 130mm stock (2005 Vanilla RLC)
Yes a Vanilla "U-turn" (with profuse apologies to RS or their trademark) would be fun to mess around with.
Fit and forget rules IMHO but then the fit must be perfect!

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Davide

Discussion Starter · #5 · Dec 21, 2005

goatman said:
I've customized my '05 Vanilla RLC to 120mm travel and can definitely feel a difference in the handling of my Titus Motolite vs 130mm. More balanced & climbs better.
Had to have some nylon rod machined to my specs.
I just find it kind of weird that Fox doesn't have 10mm or 15mm spacers available aftermarket enabling easier custom travel tuning options, rather than just 100mm or 130mm stock (2005 Vanilla RLC)
Yes a Vanilla "U-turn" (with profuse apologies to RS or their trademark) would be fun to mess around with.
Fit and forget rules IMHO but then the fit must be perfect!

It should be relatively easy to modify the bottom of the LL. There is nothing there but a rod and bolt. and just having an external dial to adjust the negative spring side of the travel would save quite a ton of work (although ... you still would have to disassamble the top RL, which is a somewhat delicate affair)
It is strange, Fox could easily make a bulletproof 110 to 140 mm microadjustable coil fork around 4.2 pounds ... it looks like a big winner to me but ... again what do I know about marketing

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