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10k Ride - 10,000 feet elevation gain
Start time: Promptly at 8am. Arrive by 7:30
Start: Demo Parking Lot - http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=...spn=0.010288,0.015986&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=addr
Map: http://www.virtualparks.org/maps/files/forest-of-nisene-marks.pdf

right UP Highland Aptos Creek fire road all the way to the peak (1100 foot climb)
left DOWN Aptos Creek trail.
right UP Sandpoint and right on Aptos Creek to the peak (900)
left DOWN on Ridge and right on Corral
left UP on Sulphur springs (700)
right DOWN Ridge to Saw Pit
right UP Hihns Mill Road, right on Tractor, left on Ridge to Braille (1600)
left DOWN Braille
right UP Hihns Mill to Parking Lot (900)
Total climb: 5200 feet

Middle: Parking Lot reload, lunch, beer.

right UP Highland Aptos Creek fire road all the way to the peak (1100 foot climb)
left DOWN Aptos Creek trail.
right UP Sandpoint and right on Aptos Creek to the peak (900)
left DOWN on Ridge to Saw Pit
right UP Hihns Mill and Sulphur (1600)
right DOWN Ridge to Braille
right UP Hihns Mill to Parking Lot (900)
Total leg: 4500 feet

End: Demo Parking lot.
Total ride: 9700 feet


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5k Ride
Start time A: Promptly at 8am. Arrive by 7:30
Start time B: Promptly at 10am. Arrive by 9:30
Start: Demo Parking Lot

right UP Highland Aptos Creek fire road all the way to the peak (1100 foot climb)
left DOWN Aptos Creek trail.
right UP Sandpoint and right on Aptos Creek to the peak (900)
left DOWN on Ridge and right on Corral
left UP on Sulphur springs (700)
right DOWN Ridge to Saw Pit
right UP Hihns Mill Road, right on Tractor, left on Ridge to Braille (1600)
left DOWN Braille
right UP Hihns Mill to Parking Lot (900)
Total climb: 5200 feet


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2.5k Ride
Start time: Promptly at 10am. Arrive by 9:30
Start: Demo Parking Lot

Route: just ride!


Guidelines!
Timing: If you are in the 10k and 5k, timing is important. This ride will leave the parking lot at 8am. So get there by 7:30. If you need to stretch or change your cables, get there earlier. This ride needs to keep rolling. So it is natural that the 10k group will split into two or three groups. Find the folks at your pace, get to know them and hang out with them. If you have a mechanical, get the necessary help needed and let the rest of the gang go.

Clothing: It will be 65 degrees in the sunny open areas. It will be in the 40s in the protected areas. So dress warm and dress in layers. The temps will plummet as soon as the sun gets low. Arm warmers and knee warmers are the ticket.

Safety: Demo is in perfect shape right now. The traction is good and the obstacles have been tuned up. But it is still the most dangerous South Bay trail to ride on. The speeds are high and any stunt or obstacle can take you down. On an epic ride, a lot can happen and fatigue is a factor. Do not take risks beyond your ability or comfort level and do not let your guard down.

Nutrition: There is no food and water on the trail so you need to carry everything until the break. The 10k riders now have an intermission at the parking lot so carry enough to get you to that point and reload. Bring a real lunch! If you haven't done a 10k in the past couple of months, you will most probably CRAMP! Big efforts do that and the cold weather on the muscles make it worse. Bring your favorite cramp medicine and take care of business. What's good btw?

Lights: It will be dark by 5:30 and tough to descend. You can bring a small helmet light if you're really obsessed about the 10k. Buttt, when the sun goes, it gets really cold. So I do not think we will be riding into the night.

10k , 5k, 2.5k - I encourage everyone to get out there and push their envelope. I have some 2.5k guys joining so don't feel this is a hardcore ride only. If you care about elevation, have an altimeter in the group or check the forum later for elevation charts. If anything, this will get you ready for the Feb and March editions of the 10k ride!

Name Tags and Picnic - Let's put name tags with your handle so we can put a face/bike to the name. Also, hang out in the lot when you're done and share your favorite food and drinks with everyone. Live for the moment and meet as many folks as possible. Remember that the journey is the reward.

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by: Tburger

I've had a LOT of experience with leg cramps. I trained for the Death Ride a couple of years back, and the best method for cramp prevention for me was adding Morton's Salt Lite, which is a mixture of sodium and potassium, to my drink mix. Plain ol' table salt is also fine. Endurolytes did nothing for me. And pickle juice sounds nasty :skep:

Properly fueling yourself is also essential, especially to prevent bonking. Drink mixes that include protein like Sustained Energy or Perpeteum is really good. Good quality gels are also really good. I know, it's roadie food, but trust me, when you're really, really, tired, it can be difficult to chew and swallow a clif bar.

A word about lunch. Bring stuff that's easily digestable and easy on your stomach. Nothing worse than stomach cramps and feeling all gassy, except for maybe having to follow the gassed up rider down the singletrack! If you're serious about trying to finish the 10K loop, you may want to skip the alcohol during the lunch break. V8 is a really good high sodium and tasty drink.

For newbies, I've only been to Demo a couple of times, but you have to pace yourself. Don't get caught up trying to follow a faster rider or you'll blow up a lot faster. The stunts are fun, but not worth trying if you're getting tired from all that climbing. Your upper body fatigues, too, and you can easily get sloppy on jumps and drops. Unless you're a stronger rider and know that you can handle all that climbing and all that jumping, I would suggest choosing one goal, or the other, that is, going light weight, and shooting for vertical feet, or bringing the fun bike with armor, and doing a medium length ride so you can try all the stunts to your heart's content.







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This is Jeng's idea btw and TSWind started it.

Who's interested?

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Justins idea??!! i called for this in early december!! lets do it. im out of shape and slow downhill. lets do it. new requirement for you FC, have to ride white bike
 

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Just not ready for this weekend, but good luck to those that try it!

I'm interested in the Feb/Mar '09 edition. One with the Aptos start and a big after party/pot luck like last year ;)
 

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SJensen said:
Justins idea??!! i called for this in early december!! lets do it. im out of shape and slow downhill. lets do it. new requirement for you FC, have to ride white bike
Schiit. So it's your fault.

I sold the white bike. Sorry.

But I have a Remedy. I'll use that one. Last saturday, I rode it for 6 laps around the track. It is dialed! I schooled those kids on their push bikes.

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Just not ready for this weekend, but good luck to those that try it!

I'm interested in the Feb/Mar '09 edition. One with the Aptos start and a big after party/pot luck like last year ;)
Quit yankin our chain lycra boy. You're 1st place in the winter race series. Stop the secret squirrel training.

Check 'Rafael Rius'
http://www.teamsanjose.org/ws/2008/category.php#c4
 

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Actually, I think it was Chucks (I Heart Bicycles) idea to start from the coast. Whatever dudes, it should rock! Can we make it Sunday though, I just remembered that a friends B-day is Saturday and he wants to ride China Camp (he's not the 10K type of rider)? Sunday, Sunday, Sunday?!
Sunday is fine. It'll be warmer then.

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That might work

Ahh, I remember that ride - as I recall, you bailed on the second pass of Cussacks with me, FC. If you're taking "Le Magnifique Du Plastique" again, have you scheduled your appointment with the chiropractor for Sunday? Route?
It's possible I'll be up in the area, so, Saturday could work for me. Looks like fun - something w/o sh!tloads of rocks would be a nice change of pace. 29er hardtail for me.
 

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sold the white bike? horrible. should be a rule the bike ridden must be 30 lbs
I'll ride a 30 pounder. My front tire alone looks 30 lbs. That way, I don't have to take JMS's colored pills to prevent back seizure.

Everyone else though, ride whatever you're comfortable with. Don't let these freeriders pressure you. Just say no to the cross bike MichiganMatt.

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SJensen said:
sold the white bike? horrible. should be a rule the bike ridden must be 30 lbs
Yeah, and for every pound over 30 you can take off 1000 feet. Not sure I could muster enough energy to do 7K.

Bring a scale!
 

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if it was not so far i would go
Last year, we had a guy named the.vault who drove down from Annadel and he had a blast. If you're ever gonna do Demo, this is the opportunity. And the long ride will make the drive worthwhile.

Carpool with the.vault.

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Yeah, and for every pound over 30 you can take off 1000 feet. Not sure I could muster enough energy to do 7K.

Bring a scale!
Are you that freaky looking guy with the cousin that went to ugly skool?

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Ahh, I remember that ride - as I recall, you bailed on the second pass of Cussacks with me, FC. If you're taking "Le Magnifique Du Plastique" again, have you scheduled your appointment with the chiropractor for Sunday? Route?
It's possible I'll be up in the area, so, Saturday could work for me. Looks like fun - something w/o sh!tloads of rocks would be a nice change of pace. 29er hardtail for me.
We're looking at Sunday now boss. Will that work?

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I'll ride a 30 pounder. My front tire alone looks 30 lbs. That way, I don't have to take JMS's colored pills to prevent back seizure.

Everyone else though, ride whatever you're comfortable with. Just say no to the cross bike MichiganMatt.

fc
spy sighting of MiMatt riding around a FS xc rig over the holiday. I think he learned a lesson last year.

as for sunday, since ive been outed, the real reason is I have to try to move up to first on sunday. :p Didn't want to kill my legs on Sat.
 

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Do you really think you can get 10k in without starting in Aptos? I guarantee Aptos will be warmer than the parking lot at the start by the way.
 
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