[freeryder]

What do you guys think about below fr build ??
- 06 fxr w/ 6in-travel Size M
- fox van 36 w/6.3in-travel up front
- dual ring front
- deemax wheelsets w/ 2.5 maxxis tires ( do these fit ?? )

i want to build a trail bike that can take occational big hits. Would like to take it to those shore style trails BUT not hitting every drops/jumps of course....just some of them when i have guts to do so ! To me the single pivot linkage & the frame structure itself looks much stronger and more durable than other brands` VPP linked frames. i don`t care about the weight that much & i don`t really care about breaking the law of ''text-book-geometry(setup)'' either.

Oh, & don`t forget, those Gravity Droppers (correct brand name ??) on-the-fly adjustable seat posts.... would love to get one for above build.

What do you guys think ?

 

[rr]

What do you guys think about below fr build ??
- 06 fxr w/ 6in-travel Size M
- fox van 36 w/6.3in-travel up front
- dual ring front
- deemax wheelsets w/ 2.5 maxxis tires ( do these fit ?? )

i want to build a trail bike that can take occational big hits. Would like to take it to those shore style trails BUT not hitting every drops/jumps of course....just some of them when i have guts to do so ! To me the single pivot linkage & the frame structure itself looks much stronger and more durable than other brands` VPP linked frames. i don`t care about the weight that much & i don`t really care about breaking the law of ''text-book-geometry(setup)'' either.

Oh, & don`t forget, those Gravity Droppers (correct brand name ??) on-the-fly adjustable seat posts.... would love to get one for above build.

What do you guys think ?

Hell yeah, if they are gonna make one in the 6" version. With the 2:1 ratio shock options might be an issue cause it sounds like the Curnutt might be the only fit with a 3" stroke. Personally, I don't have any complaints with my Curnutt but some have felt it's too harsh or not enough slow speed compliance.

If they do end up making a 6" version, I would consider buying one as a replacement for my '04 but probably not till '07 after they get the bugs out of the new design.

 

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I agree with rroeder...It would kick a$$.

I'm going to a 6" fork on my 04 FXR (either Pike, Z-1, or 36 Talas...the box is wrapped under the christmas tree from my wife, I just don't know which fork...and the wait is killing me . The 36van would be great for the '06.

I do like the curnutt. It can be a little harsh, but I found setting the platform at the lowest setting and adding spring preload made mine ride pretty plush with enough platform to still be as snappy as a burly trail bike can be.

 

[rr]

I agree with rroeder...It would kick a$$.

I'm going to a 6" fork on my 04 FXR (either Pike, Z-1, or 36 Talas...the box is wrapped under the christmas tree from my wife, I just don't know which fork...and the wait is killing me . The 36van would be great for the '06.

I do like the curnutt. It can be a little harsh, but I found setting the platform at the lowest setting and adding spring preload made mine ride pretty plush with enough platform to still be as snappy as a burly trail bike can be.

The Pike sounds nice with the maxle, taking the front wheel off is kind of a pain with my Z150 but really no big deal. The 140mm travel on the Pike would match the 5.75" in the rear very nicely, although I like the HA with the taller Z150 now and I can lock it down with the ETA feature for the climbs.

 

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I agree, I really think its a Pike under the tree... most bang for the buck is something my wife would appreciate (espicially since she just got me a new front wheel that will work on a 20mm axle). I'm coming from a Fox Talas so any of the forks will slacken the HA.

 

[bunnyhiphopper]

the 36 Talas would be a better choice, unless you only do shuttles, lift assisted, or don't have any steep technical climbs.

 

[kristian]

The interesting thing there...

I do like the curnutt. It can be a little harsh, but I found setting the platform at the lowest setting and adding spring preload made mine ride pretty plush with enough platform to still be as snappy as a burly trail bike can be.

...is that the FXR won't have an adjustable platform in the stock Curnutt from what I've read (their new website is live, although not completely finished). I wonder what the price difference between the non-adjustable platform shock and the adjustable one will be. I'm intersted in the new 6" 2:1 version, but I am a little concerned about the lack of shock options down the road if I don't like the Curnutt...

http://www.foesracing.com/mountainbikes.cfm?view=21fxr

 

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I could be wrong, but I don't think Foes is talking about an adjustabe versus non adjustable Curnutt, but rather the frame travel can either be 5" or 6"; not adjustable from 5" to 5.75" depending on linkage and shock placement as with the 2003-2005 frames.

 

[rr]

...is that the FXR won't have an adjustable platform in the stock Curnutt from what I've read (their new website is live, although not completely finished). I wonder what the price difference between the non-adjustable platform shock and the adjustable one will be. I'm intersted in the new 6" 2:1 version, but I am a little concerned about the lack of shock options down the road if I don't like the Curnutt...

http://www.foesracing.com/mountainbikes.cfm?view=21fxr

Yeah, a 3" stroke shock that will fit the frame could be an issue. Looks like they are using a diff. version of the Curnutt without a bottom adjuster, I've found cranking up the bottom control firms up the suspension also and is not totally independent of the air platform adjustment which the new version does have too.

With the new design and new version of the Curnutt it's hard to tell how they are gonna ride till we see some real tests I guess, not sure if the HA is slack enough for a 6" version but maybe a taller fork would help there. The price looks nice though!

 

[kristian]

I could be wrong, but I don't think Foes is talking about an adjustabe versus non adjustable Curnutt, but rather the frame travel can either be 5" or 6"; not adjustable from 5" to 5.75" depending on linkage and shock placement as with the 2003-2005 frames.

According to their website, the FXR with get an "ITD" shock instead of the XTD. The difference (from what I can tell) is that the ITD has a factory adjusted threshold whereas the XTD is externally adjustable.

 

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I did not realize they are taking off the bottom control. I can not say I have noticed a huge difference in its setting, but I tend to run it at full bottom resistance with the platform at a lower PSI. For what its worth, I don't think the Inferno has ever had the bottom adjuster.

The 3" stroke shock will be an issue if you don't like the Curnutt ride (which is definitely a preference item...I like mine but have heard others who didn't)

 

[rr]

According to their website, the FXR with get an "ITD" shock instead of the XTD. The difference (from what I can tell) is that the ITD has a factory adjusted threshold whereas the XTD is externally adjustable.

Mine(XTD) has rebound, air adjust(platform) and a bottom control dial, the new version looks to not have the bottom control which they say is factory set. Maybe the 2:1 ratio has something to do with this cause some folks complained of bottoming the shock and wouldn't the 2:1 ratio make for easier bottoming? Hence a factory set and probably firmer valving at the end of the stroke??

 

[kristian]

Mine(XTD) has rebound, air adjust(platform) and a bottom control dial, the new version looks to not have the bottom control which they say is factory set. Maybe the 2:1 ratio has something to do with this cause some folks complained of bottoming the shock and wouldn't the 2:1 ratio make for easier bottoming? Hence a factory set and probably firmer valving at the end of the stroke??

Thanks Rick, I guess I was confusing the air adjust with the bottom control...

I wonder where the bottoming control kicks in in terms of shock travel. Have you done any playing around with your shock without the spring to know this? Is it something like your compression damping is happening at one rate up until 3/4 of the shaft and then the bottom control kicks in? Any idea if the "bottom control compression" is linear or if the damping increases as the shock nears bottom out?

 

[rr]

Thanks Rick, I guess I was confusing the air adjust with the bottom control...

I wonder where the bottoming control kicks in in terms of shock travel. Have you done any playing around with your shock without the spring to know this? Is it something like your compression damping is happening at one rate up until 3/4 of the shaft and then the bottom control kicks in? Any idea if the "bottom control compression" is linear or if the damping increases as the shock nears bottom out?

I haven't but I do know they use slower rebound in the initial travel for the platform and the platform obviously controls the initial travel somewhat, the shock is more compliant over rocky terrain and such if you run lower pressure but the pedaling is not as good.

I've been able to tell a diff. in how firm the shock feels when I use the bottom control dial, I like to run it firm about 1 turn out(it has 4 full turns of adj.) cause it helps with the pedaling and for hitting drops like over at Palmer but again the slow speed compliance might not be as good as when it's backed out.

The air adj. and the bottom control dial are not fully independent of each other and the manual even recommends running the bottom dial firm if your running less pressure or the other way around. If you crank up the pressure and the bottom dial, the suspension is FIRM, and pedals/climbs very nicely.

They seem to be very reliable but not having another shock option is not good, maybe there's another 3" stroke DH type shock that would fit. Foes would probably fab you an adapter if you wanted to run a diff. shock, they did that with the Fox shocks on my model.

BTW, I want one in red so you only have 2 color choices