1.75"/2.0" refer to the shock's travel. If you take the Pearl, your bike will have a more important tavel beacause the shock's travel will be more important.
06 Stumpjumper - after market rear shock query
Hi there.
I have recently purchased a 2006 Stumpjumper FSR Comp and want to know if it is possible to replace the stock Triad rear shock with an after market shock, in particular the Rockshox Pearl 3.1 and I do not know much about rear shock sizing.
I understand the stock Fox Triad shock is 7.5" x 1.75" and the Rockshox Pearl 3.1 is 7.5" x 2.0".
I guess the first figure 7.5" refers to the eye to eye length, but what does the 1.75"/2.0" figure refer to? Could a Pearl 3.1 fit the Stumpjumper?
Has anyone fitted another shock to the Stumpjumper with any success?
Any help/comments much appreciated.
Cheers
I have recently purchased a 2006 Stumpjumper FSR Comp and want to know if it is possible to replace the stock Triad rear shock with an after market shock, in particular the Rockshox Pearl 3.1 and I do not know much about rear shock sizing.
I understand the stock Fox Triad shock is 7.5" x 1.75" and the Rockshox Pearl 3.1 is 7.5" x 2.0".
I guess the first figure 7.5" refers to the eye to eye length, but what does the 1.75"/2.0" figure refer to? Could a Pearl 3.1 fit the Stumpjumper?
Has anyone fitted another shock to the Stumpjumper with any success?
Any help/comments much appreciated.
Cheers
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And speak to the boys about either an RP23 or a RP3 with the Factory treatment. It will be a far better shock than the Pearl. I had a Pearl for a few rides, it needs work. You'd be better off with either of the above shocks.Kiwibert said:Hi there.
I have recently purchased a 2006 Stumpjumper FSR Comp and want to know if it is possible to replace the stock Triad rear shock with an after market shock, in particular the Rockshox Pearl 3.1 and I do not know much about rear shock sizing.
I understand the stock Fox Triad shock is 7.5" x 1.75" and the Rockshox Pearl 3.1 is 7.5" x 2.0".
I guess the first figure 7.5" refers to the eye to eye length, but what does the 1.75"/2.0" figure refer to? Could a Pearl 3.1 fit the Stumpjumper?
Has anyone fitted another shock to the Stumpjumper with any success?
Any help/comments much appreciated.
Cheers
What problems are you having with the Triad ?? It is vary similar to an RP 3 , it's not a bad shock by any means so just trying to understand the need to switch it out ?Kiwibert said:Hi there.
I have recently purchased a 2006 Stumpjumper FSR Comp and want to know if it is possible to replace the stock Triad rear shock with an after market shock, in particular the Rockshox Pearl 3.1 and I do not know much about rear shock sizing.
I understand the stock Fox Triad shock is 7.5" x 1.75" and the Rockshox Pearl 3.1 is 7.5" x 2.0".
I guess the first figure 7.5" refers to the eye to eye length, but what does the 1.75"/2.0" figure refer to? Could a Pearl 3.1 fit the Stumpjumper?
Has anyone fitted another shock to the Stumpjumper with any success?
Any help/comments much appreciated.
Cheers
It is not anything like an RP3. Triad has a plate that when fully closed locks it out, when you switch to propedal, it's half open restricting oil flow and hencemimicking PP. when you switch to open, it's fully open. The shock doesn't acutally have PP. Open it up and find out for yourself.Spin Cycle said:What problems are you having with the Triad ?? It is vary similar to an RP 3 , it's not a bad shock by any means so just trying to understand the need to switch it out ?
It's closer to a float R than anything else.
The Pushed Float R will perform far better than a Triad, and you don't have to flip any levers.
I have to disagree with you it is a full propedal shock just look at Push's web site and the service they do is the same as a the other propedal shocks it just has a very light valving when in the propedal postion but it does increase the low speed compression same as all propedal.S-Works said:It is not anything like an RP3. Triad has a plate that when fully closed locks it out, when you switch to propedal, it's half open restricting oil flow and hencemimicking PP. when you switch to open, it's fully open. The shock doesn't acutally have PP. Open it up and find out for yourself.
It's closer to a float R than anything else.
The Pushed Float R will perform far better than a Triad, and you don't have to flip any
vers.
http://www.pushindustries.com/services.php?serv_page=fox air shocks&title=Fox Air Shocks
Look at Push's site again
I got this info from Push when I made a reference about the Triad on my Stumpy being Specialized's version of the RP3.
They don't offer the factory tuning like other shocks, all they do is rebuild it. There is no mention of pro-pedal. There is no Push treatment, because the Triad is a different animal.Spin Cycle said:I have to disagree with you it is a full propedal shock just look at Push's web site and the service they do is the same as a the other propedal shocks it just has a very light valving when in the propedal postion but it does increase the low speed compression same as all propedal.
http://www.pushindustries.com/services.php?serv_page=fox air shocks&title=Fox Air Shocks
I got this info from Push when I made a reference about the Triad on my Stumpy being Specialized's version of the RP3.
Correct
Looking for a performance upgrade, or an increase in Propedal firmness? PUSH Factory Tuning Systems include our Factory Rebuild, but then adds the installation of our performance components based on your rider weight and style, as well as year, make, and model of your frame. We also retune the Propedal Lever Range to feature a "softer" soft and "firmer" firm Propedal setting.
So the best thing to do is buy a FSR with a septune or else you have to buy a rp 23, I did not read the infomation closly because I thought with all the FSR sold with the triad that Push would have a solution and could add the "factory tuning system" to this model !
they only rebuild the shock they don't go into this part :S-Works said:They don't offer the factory tuning like other shocks, all they do is rebuild it. There is no mention of pro-pedal. There is no Push treatment, because the Triad is a different animal.
I got this info from Push when I made a reference about the Triad on my Stumpy being Specialized's version of the RP3.
Looking for a performance upgrade, or an increase in Propedal firmness? PUSH Factory Tuning Systems include our Factory Rebuild, but then adds the installation of our performance components based on your rider weight and style, as well as year, make, and model of your frame. We also retune the Propedal Lever Range to feature a "softer" soft and "firmer" firm Propedal setting.
So the best thing to do is buy a FSR with a septune or else you have to buy a rp 23, I did not read the infomation closly because I thought with all the FSR sold with the triad that Push would have a solution and could add the "factory tuning system" to this model !
That's right. Look at the charges for Triad services, it does not include the Push treatment, aka, factory tuning system.Spin Cycle said:they only rebuild the shock they don't go into this part :
Looking for a performance upgrade, or an increase in Propedal firmness? PUSH Factory Tuning Systems include our Factory Rebuild, but then adds the installation of our performance components based on your rider weight and style, as well as year, make, and model of your frame. We also retune the Propedal Lever Range to feature a "softer" soft and "firmer" firm Propedal setting.
So the best thing to do is buy a FSR with a septune or else you have to buy a rp 23, I did not read the infomation closly because I thought with all the FSR sold with the triad that Push would have a solution and could add the "factory tuning system" to this model !
I didn't think there was anything else that was 7.5 x 1.75 besides the Triad? What other options do we have? I have never been completely happy with the Triad.
Does anybody know if it is possible to use a 190 mm x 50 mm shock on a 05 S-works Stumpjumper FSR (or any other 120 mm stumpy)? Has anyone done that? Is there enough space, or does the link touch the frame when fully compressed?
When the i2i is the same, but the travel is GREATER, that means the shock will compress more than the original, and there is a high risk of binding or contact of suspension or tire to frame.Kiwibert said:Hi there.
I have recently purchased a 2006 Stumpjumper FSR Comp and want to know if it is possible to replace the stock Triad rear shock with an after market shock, in particular the Rockshox Pearl 3.1 and I do not know much about rear shock sizing.
I understand the stock Fox Triad shock is 7.5" x 1.75" and the Rockshox Pearl 3.1 is 7.5" x 2.0".
I guess the first figure 7.5" refers to the eye to eye length, but what does the 1.75"/2.0" figure refer to? Could a Pearl 3.1 fit the Stumpjumper?
Has anyone fitted another shock to the Stumpjumper with any success?
Any help/comments much appreciated.
Cheers
If the i2i is longer by the same amount as the travel increase, it is just extending the suspension more, and not as likely to bind or contact anything (within reason).
It might be possible to use one of Fox's other shocks on the Stumpy.
The specs for the Fox Triad are 7.5 X 1.75. Using a 7.5 X 2.0 shock would keep the BB height the same but would also allow the shock linkage to hit the frame on the bike. A 7.875 X 2.0 shock would actually work. It would increase rear suspension by 17mm and raise the BB height.
Here is a graphic I made to show the differences:
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The specs for the Fox Triad are 7.5 X 1.75. Using a 7.5 X 2.0 shock would keep the BB height the same but would also allow the shock linkage to hit the frame on the bike. A 7.875 X 2.0 shock would actually work. It would increase rear suspension by 17mm and raise the BB height.
Here is a graphic I made to show the differences:
speaking of PUSH
last time I talked ti them about my 06 TRIAD, Christine asked Darren what he could really do. Darren said he could turn it into a Float R, no three position switch, but still the rebound adjuster. When converted to the R, the full PUSH monty could be done.
That was how I understood her explanation. I've been too busy, and have not wanted to ship the shock out. At season's end(northeast) I'll send it in for that service.
Call and verify that rebuild, cause the website offers no such option.
I still hate my Triad, my old 03 Pushed Float R was a MUCH better performer. LOVE the chassis though!
last time I talked ti them about my 06 TRIAD, Christine asked Darren what he could really do. Darren said he could turn it into a Float R, no three position switch, but still the rebound adjuster. When converted to the R, the full PUSH monty could be done.
That was how I understood her explanation. I've been too busy, and have not wanted to ship the shock out. At season's end(northeast) I'll send it in for that service.
Call and verify that rebuild, cause the website offers no such option.
I still hate my Triad, my old 03 Pushed Float R was a MUCH better performer. LOVE the chassis though!
if you think that 7.875 x 2.0 can fit, here is a great bargain --->
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PUSH is now making custom length shocks. I dream of a PUSHed RP23 in 7.5x1.75 formYanick said:if you think that 7.875 x 2.0 can fit, here is a great bargain --->
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I put the call into Darren today
I sent my 06 Triad to PUSH in mid August. The 06 is a different animal from the 05. I was wrong(got bad info apparently) in a previous post, the 06 can not be converted to a Float R.
So, I get new seals and fluid.
Rider weight 190lbs-agressive xc
Before rebuild-235psi needed for correct sag, rebound in middle, anything less and it's just mush. No tension in lever, just flips effortlessly between settings
PP-bottoms constantly on slow granny ring technical climbs, over roots etc, never from big hits
Locked-no noticeable difference
Open-no difference
after rebuild-215-220psi, still hunting, rebound two clicks slower, still hunting, lever has nice feel, like something is actually attached
pp-bottoms out constantly on slow granny ring technical climbs, same as before
locked-weird stacatto feel, like driving on the highway over expansion strips, very abrupt short travel then stop, and repeat-really annoying
open-mush right thru the travel
I'm gonna get some pricing info from Darren on the custom RP3, RP23. The chassis is so nice, but this shock just completely sucks a**. The old 03 Float R I had PUSHED, was a truely set and forget performer.
I can't believe that Specialized is still putting this piece of crap on 07 FSR's
I sent my 06 Triad to PUSH in mid August. The 06 is a different animal from the 05. I was wrong(got bad info apparently) in a previous post, the 06 can not be converted to a Float R.
So, I get new seals and fluid.
Rider weight 190lbs-agressive xc
Before rebuild-235psi needed for correct sag, rebound in middle, anything less and it's just mush. No tension in lever, just flips effortlessly between settings
PP-bottoms constantly on slow granny ring technical climbs, over roots etc, never from big hits
Locked-no noticeable difference
Open-no difference
after rebuild-215-220psi, still hunting, rebound two clicks slower, still hunting, lever has nice feel, like something is actually attached
pp-bottoms out constantly on slow granny ring technical climbs, same as before
locked-weird stacatto feel, like driving on the highway over expansion strips, very abrupt short travel then stop, and repeat-really annoying
open-mush right thru the travel
I'm gonna get some pricing info from Darren on the custom RP3, RP23. The chassis is so nice, but this shock just completely sucks a**. The old 03 Float R I had PUSHED, was a truely set and forget performer.
I can't believe that Specialized is still putting this piece of crap on 07 FSR's
let us know how much they say it will cost and how much turn around time.magdaddy said:I'm gonna get some pricing info from Darren on the custom RP3, RP23. The chassis is so nice, but this shock just completely sucks a**. The old 03 Float R I had PUSHED, was a truely set and forget performer.
i'll probably get one too, if they can do it for the 06 SJ.
Hi!
Attached page 10 of the Stumpy 06 manual: it says 7.5x1.75 and 165.1x38.1mm which MUST be a mistake!!!
Anyway, did you fit the RP23 to the frame? Does it work? Please keep us informed! I am also very tempted to buy a RP23 for my 06 Stumpy...
Kindest regards,
Jun
.
Attached page 10 of the Stumpy 06 manual: it says 7.5x1.75 and 165.1x38.1mm which MUST be a mistake!!!
Anyway, did you fit the RP23 to the frame? Does it work? Please keep us informed! I am also very tempted to buy a RP23 for my 06 Stumpy...
Kindest regards,
Jun
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Triad replacement options from PUSH
here's the deal. any RP3, or RP23 that is e2e 7.5"x2,0" stroke can be converted. The E2E is the critical can't be changed measurement. Push can shorten the stroke from 2-1.75 for the FSR.
A new RP3 or Rp23 retails for about $369, add the Push custom rebuild with the shorten stroke kit(about an additional $30), and you have a $600 fix for the P.O.S. Triad. Push also will sell the new shock, for slightly below retail they tell me.
Anyway, about $600 shipped. Suddenly my Pushed Triad don't feel too bad. I got the psi nailed, about 15psi above riding weight, and rebound two clicks from slowest. It's the best it's ever been.
The chassis is worth the investment, but it won't make the bike worth $600 more. I'll finish this season(winter approaching here in Central New York you know) and see how I feel in the spring.
This build was supposed to be a 1-2 year filler, until I was ready to drop $ick money on a dream ride. With the problems reported here concerning Specialized branded shocks, might not ba a bad idea to wait till 08.
Unless I stumble across a Carbon Stumpy or Pro cheap.
here's the deal. any RP3, or RP23 that is e2e 7.5"x2,0" stroke can be converted. The E2E is the critical can't be changed measurement. Push can shorten the stroke from 2-1.75 for the FSR.
A new RP3 or Rp23 retails for about $369, add the Push custom rebuild with the shorten stroke kit(about an additional $30), and you have a $600 fix for the P.O.S. Triad. Push also will sell the new shock, for slightly below retail they tell me.
Anyway, about $600 shipped. Suddenly my Pushed Triad don't feel too bad. I got the psi nailed, about 15psi above riding weight, and rebound two clicks from slowest. It's the best it's ever been.
The chassis is worth the investment, but it won't make the bike worth $600 more. I'll finish this season(winter approaching here in Central New York you know) and see how I feel in the spring.
This build was supposed to be a 1-2 year filler, until I was ready to drop $ick money on a dream ride. With the problems reported here concerning Specialized branded shocks, might not ba a bad idea to wait till 08.
Unless I stumble across a Carbon Stumpy or Pro cheap.
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