Sachs Plasma Derailleur

DESCRIPTION

Plasma

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[Sep 04, 2009]
Pentimento
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
1
VALUE
RATING
1

Outfitted to Porsche Mountain Bike. Second time riding, through a slightly hilly neighborhood, and he Sachs Plasma exploded into five pieces and bent horribly. Plastic is a bad idea for this part.

[Jan 20, 2002]
Hardcore
Downhiller

OVERALL
RATING
2
VALUE
RATING
2
Strength:

light
different design

Weakness:

bends
breaks
can't hold the chain in its cage

I had two of them. Firt one was the original Sachs Di.R.T. Plasma.
It broke! Second one was the SRAM thing and guess what happened.

I would recomend Shimano even if they are monopolistic people.
But their stuff mostly works. Take XTR or Deore. Forget LX and XT!

Similar Products Used:

GS 200, Exage, Deore, DX, LX, XT, XTR, Plasma

[May 05, 2001]
Chris Brattle
Downhiller

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Light, works well and carries on working.
Best Mech is you like it muddy
Unfussy Warranty
Very Different
Not Shimano

Weakness:

Twat it hard and it breaks (Duh!)
Hard To set up initially

I have had the same rear mech for three years, it has outlasted several frames! once you get past the initial stress of setting it up and paying for the damn thing it reaslly just sits there letting you forget about it, wanna shift up a whole block on one wrench whilst pedaling full out, this drailler will do it, through rain or snow, this is why I hsve the oldest, most battered drivetrain of anyone I know, which still out performs XTR straight from the box, O.K I have broken ione but the warranty replaced it almost immediately without quibble, and the second has lasted forever, beautifully made, brilliantly designed, works above and beyond the call of duty, at this rate I'll be leaving it in my will!

Similar Products Used:

Every Shimano, Most SRAM

[Apr 12, 2000]
andy da-costa

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

super light and shifts like you expeect it too.

Weakness:

very expensive retails at £80.

do not under estimate the power of this rear dirilier it may look britill but its stronger than your leg.down side its pricy .

Similar Products Used:

xtr the same but is hevier

[Mar 02, 2000]
Jason
Racer

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
4
Strength:

Superlight-compared to anything, shifts when ESP or XT would lock up (dusty conditions, muddy conditions). Works with 7,8 or 9 speeds.

Weakness:

THE CABLE HOUSING ABSOLUTELY MUST BE THE CORRECT LENGTH. There is a chart in the box, and in the manual. It shows the special cable housing lengths. If you don't cut within 20mm, the derailluer will not work right.

It works well if you have the cable housing cut correctly. The Quartz works very well also, has many of the same features, and costs about half as much. The only derailluer that competes with this is the 98+ XTR. As bad as it sounds, I'd rather be sending my money to the Frenchies.(Although Sachs is owned by SRAM Chicago)

Similar Products Used:

Shimano 97LX, 95DX, 94XT, 95XT, 98XTR. Sram 97ESP 9.0, 98ESP 9.0SL Sachs/Sram Quartz

[Feb 17, 2000]
M.R. O.
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
1
VALUE
RATING
1
Strength:

Very light,very good design (direct pull), very good shifting

Weakness:

Built with extremely cheap plastic, very prone to breakage. Only good for the city in my opinion.

I was very enthousiastic about this derailleur for two or three weeks. It was working very well until I started to bike in a nasty singletrack; I am not sure exactly what happened but the Plasma shattered in three pieces where the plastic parts are the thinnest. My master mechanics had warned me about the drabacks of this derailleur. He was right. Anyways, I did not want to waste any more time so instead of a replacement I got myself an XTR, a much tougher derailleur.

Similar Products Used:

Acera x, STX, STX RC, XTR

[Feb 10, 2000]
Marcel Frenk
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
3
VALUE
RATING
3
Strength:

With the Sachs grip-shifters this is by far the fastest shifting deraileur, and the most precise too. When not worn around its pivot-points, no ghostshifts at all. Way better than Shimano XT and XTR (who work fine with shimano shifters though, but still ghostshift on my fully)

Weakness:

Very weak chainwheels (or pullywheels, whatever you call `m in english), they wear out fast, or their bearings fail, and when they fail, the bottom one unscrews itself (indicating a stupid construction, lost a lot of parts in the forrest because of that, causing an unwelcome singlespeed experience ). The pivot points wear out to fast (within nine month`s or so), when worn the derailleur starts to ghost-shift etc. And although they are sold as being servicable, in NL no importer service is available, nor are replacement parts.

I used two of these during the last 20 months, because they worked the best with the Sachs Plasma gripshifters I bought. Way better than Shimano XT and Sachs Quartz alu. Supershifts are possible, but the derailleur has some weaknesses SRAM should learn from. With a good cable setup it`s not too sensitive to mud, so that`s OK in my experience. But the chainwheels wear out too fast, and their bearings are prone to jamming themselves. When this happens (during a muddy ride, during which you endure so much rolling resistance and chain noise that the protesting chainwheels get unnoticed) the lower chainwheel unscrews itself out of the derailleur cage, and suddenly all is lost! Stupid construction detail! The pivot points wear out fast, and since these are metal parts mounted into a composite material, in theorie it`s possible to repair the derailleur. Unfortunately SRAM NL (or Koch Kleeberg) supplies no spare parts, nor offers a rebuild service. Which means you can throw away a Fl. 200,- (guilders, not dollars) derailleur every ten months... Went back to Shimano XT, reluctantly accepting a lesser shifting performance and some ghostshifts on heavy bumps.
If anyone of SRAM reads this, I appreciate any comments you have on this.

Similar Products Used:

Shimano XT, Sachs Quartz (the metal one, horrible!)

[Jan 20, 2000]
Hoss
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
3
VALUE
RATING
3
Strength:

Light, smooooth, warranty

Weakness:

Weak plastic, price

I just broke my second Plasma inside of 12 months. The first one lasted about 8 months and the plastic side of the cage broke. Sent it to my dealer, Bikeworks in Toledo (fantastic service), and they hooked my up with a new one. Used the second one twice and POW, the knuckle broke while I was climbing a hill. It was about 20 degrees outside when this happened and I am not sure if that caused the plastic to become brittle. Anyhow, I will give the Plasma one more shot because it shifted so nice.

Similar Products Used:

LX & XT

[Jan 01, 1999]
Eric
racer

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING

This is the best rear-derailleur, i started out with an STX and got an XT, but the damn thing fell apart, the Sealed Bearings are crap, they fill with mud and stop turning, and then it just acts like a bushing. My Friend has had an Alivio, an LX, an XT and both the XTR normal and Rapid-Rise, he hated his XT, it fell apart, so far the XTR(the normal one, he returned the Rapid-Rise because it worked backwards) derailleur is working great. I thought it was cool for a while, but different things about it got more annoying and when the bottom pulley shot off and chased me down the road one day I decided to try the Plasma. True, the Plasma cost 3 times as much, but doesnt a BMW cost 3 times as much as a Toyota?(and im not dissin Japanese car companies, they make THE MOST RELIABLE cars in the world.) But if you want performance and engineering you need Sachs. The XTR and Plasma both have real engineering and quality and real CARTRIDGE BEARINGS, A MUST HAVE IN ANY COMPONENT! If you dont mind the price get a Plasma, and if you want almost as good without the German twist get an XTR.

[Feb 15, 2001]
tom tomskins
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
4
Strength:

tougth and durabale, top of the range sachs shiffting
reliable.perfornace is top wack. will make u smile.
compatibale with any groups sets

Weakness:

plastic not very atractive looking u will need a sachs chain 2 go with it. pricey for a bit of plastic

want 1 of the best performers out there then give this a good a bit steep in the pice tag but worth the extra dollars.

Similar Products Used:

xtr

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