Magura HS11 Brake System

DESCRIPTION

Fully hydraulic rim brake system with a 16mm diameter master piston and two 14mm diameter slave pistons. Composite brake lever with forged 3-finger aluminium lever blade.

USER REVIEWS

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[Feb 11, 2003]
Ty
Downhiller

OVERALL
RATING
3
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

very reliable, set and forget, relitivly strong

Weakness:

not as stong as HS33's
not as easy to adjust as the HS33's

good reliable brakes, srtong but not nearly as stong as HS33's. the modulation is not the best either good bang for the buck

Similar Products Used:

Magura HS33
Avid 4

[Feb 13, 2003]
Al
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
4
Strength:

When set up they work, in the context of rim brakes, these are the best. You must use boosters, even if you've got the strongest, most rigid frame and forks going, because the break mounting lugs themselves will flex and bend! The do work well, just lots of but's...

Weakness:

1. The hex-screws that fix the breaks to the mounts are not designed correctly - the heads are too flat and the hex-hole is too deep, so there is approx 0.4mm of actual metal connecting the head to the shaft of these bolts. If you are heavy handed then get used to drilling them out and glueing a small screw into the broken off stub so you can get it out of the mounts.
2. When fitting, they say it's easy to trim the cables and refit to the lever tapered connectors - my ar**! Unless you are the incredible hulk, you'll need to open the end up by inserting a screwdrive or some such down the cable and twisting it to make the whole big enough. Heating the cable doesn't work, it just cracks. The blood fitted as standard (green stuff) is rubbish, you need to get some thinner synthetic stuff and feel the difference. Quite why they skimp and put this grean slop in expensive breaks is beyond me, they'd work better with cooking fat.
3. The levers are plastic, if you do XC then great, if you are likely to hang a lot of weight on the levers when doing tricks, or bail out often, then don't even look at these breaks - in this case they may as well be made of lime jelly.
4. The nature of they way the breaks flex means that the wheen should really only be run with the wheel running into them, if that makes sense. Ok, maybe not, but I mean that back is fine, but the front should be mounted behind the forks if possible, facing backwards, not on the front - unless you want to stop best with the front wheel when you're rolling backwards.
5. The black pads are average - middle of the road - standard compound jobs - but they do last ages. You need green-frog's for worn rims in bad weather, or red for polished rims in bad weather - but they'll wear out after a month or so.

The only reason you should consider these breaks is if it's technically impossible to fit disks to you frame and forks, or on a trials bike where you're likely to break/bend disks on a rock or something!
If you've already got V breaks or something, just keep them till you can save the bit extra up for disks, you'll regret getting stuck with Maguras after you've tried some average disk breaks.
You think they're cheaper than disks and disk-hub wheels? Try paying £22.00 ($33.00) every month or two for break pads from those profiteering people at Ven Hill Engineering (01306 885111), or £24.00 ($36.00) for a mini service kit to blead them - they refuse to sell a blead kit for £7.00.
Overall, after 6 months - 1 year - they they work out a heck of a lot more expensive than disks, and don't work any where near as well as disks.
Forget them, they only became popular on trials bikes and before mountain bike disk breaks became affordable with standard mounts.
One the distributors get their hooks into you, you'll be paying out lots of money for the pads and bleed kits.
Still gave them 4 Chilis because in the context of rim breaks, they are still the best.

Similar Products Used:

Similar to a unique product? None. Breaks? Shimano V's and Hope M4's with 8" rotors.

[Nov 25, 2000]
alex spencer
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

light, cheap, powerful (the badly bled rear locks)

Weakness:

flexs my frame (with boosters)

cheap (£40) light powerful

[Nov 04, 2000]
Herve
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
2
VALUE
RATING
2
Strength:

Definitely these brakes will stop the bikes ... when they work !

Weakness:

Already had Hydraulic disk brake in the front. Had doubts about also having Hydraulic brakes for the rear. Discussed this with the local shop I bought the Cannondale from.
He convinced me that they had been around for a while and were reliable ....
Turned out that after 5 or 6 week-ends, the lever was leaking. Took me 2 trips to the shop to have them understand that it was not enough and not normal to have to refill these things every 3 weeks.
Everything has been sent to Magura to fix or replace.
we'll see ...and I'll update the story

My initial fear turned out to be true.Brakes broke in a middle of a ride. Had to downhill 15 miles on the front brakes ..interesting experiance
I wonder why they still have this plastic lever ...

[Jul 24, 2000]
Joe Corner
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

A Bargain at bike 2000 for £60
Amazing power, easy to set up when you know how, Magura quality

Weakness:

V.difficult to first set up but other than that no problems, maybe a tad heavy but only the freaks care about stuff like that

Amazing for the price even if a bit hard to set up at first

Similar Products Used:

Magura HS33

[Jul 19, 2000]
Matt
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

*Holy inexpensive
*Great Modulation
*Holy Power!
*Works the same in any outdoor condition
*Great design
*Totally adjustable

Weakness:

*Can't fit with brace and use QR effectively (see below)

I struggled with the Cantis that came with this bike when I got it, and pegged brakes as my first upgrade. I wanted something to really hold me over until Hydraulic Disk brakes came down a bit in price and found these on mail order for under 80 bucks. Couldn't be a better deal. About the same price as LX v-brakes and less than XT (which I would have gotten). Gave them to my LBS to set up because I heard they were a pain, and forgot about them since. Work like a dream.
Other reviewer mentioned the levers on the HS-11 as a worry spot, and I share that plastic concern- but they have held up fine so far. Only real "problem" that I have found is that you can not keep the brake booster on and use the QR at the same time (you have to unbolt the brakes in order to install/remove each time, and then put it back together and readjust- so for those of us with fork mount roof racks it is a five minute ordeal everytime you want to ride). The quick release works beautifully, mind you, but the arch on my old Manitou 3 sucked and could not handle the power of the brakes, therefore nullifying the mechanical advantage that the hydraulic brakes give you. Problem has subsided somewhat due to two correctional actions that I have taken:
-Adjusted the stiffness of the lever by tightening the hex screw in the lever.
-Bought a brand new shock with a much stiffer arch.... (as if I needed another reason)

I would not suggest using the Hydraulic Brakes on the rear without a brake booster- even if you have a new frame with the fancy bend in the tubing to alleviate frame bend- because it can cause quite a lot of flex in the frame and possibly do some damage (as well as mentioned earlier- reduce your stopping power).
Overall- I can not see why more people do not have these things on their rides- Braking is ALL about mechanical advantage- that is why Linear pull works better than Cantilevers, and that is why these work better than v's- hey, think about how the brakes on your car work......
I'll update this review if any problems arise- especially when it comes time to bleed and change fluid!

Similar Products Used:

Cantis, V's, Scott/Mathuaser hydraulic

[Jun 09, 2000]
bladteth
Cross Country Rider

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

+ good stopping power
+ great modulation
+ almost no maintenance needed (install and forget)
+ durability
+ replacing brake pads takes a few seconds
+ no problems when it comes to remove the wheel
+ do not need tiny clearance as in v-brakes

Weakness:

- a bit heavy (who cares anyway ?)
- costs of maintenance (brake pads)
- hard to install and set up, but when it is done it will last forever (until the brake pads wear out entirely)
- low quality brake boosters (better than nothing)
- price
- plastics used in the construction of levers that makes them too flexy when forced to excessive braking

Pros and cons above can be put into description of any Magura's hydraulic brakes. Only differences between HS11 and brothers are the lever piston diameter (HS33 with smaller one is even more powerful) and the construction of the levers themselves. Obviously aluminum used in HS33 is far better solution than creepy plastic in HS11 but does it explain the price difference ? Brakes works perfectly in most conditions but do not try to ride on worn pads - it can turn painful. Replace them with new ones, possibly with red Koolstops.

Similar Products Used:

ESP 9.0, stock v-brakes and cantis

[Sep 08, 2005]
Anc
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
5
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

Very easy to maintain, excellent braking power and easy to control braking power. No tendency to lock

Weakness:

Wears out rims (like any rimbrake)

Buy. Well worth

Similar Products Used:

shimano lx v-brakes, shimano xt diskbrakes

[Mar 29, 2002]
dave
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
5
Strength:

+ when setup well = stopping power
+ Cheap when considering performance

Weakness:

- if you do any XC in wet forget it. The pads run down in a matter of hours
- Pretty hard to setup. I'd recommend getting a store at setup for you inless your confident of your ablility
- I found lever to be a bit too long and its not 2 fingered.

Very good brake if you just getting into trail and want something good but cheaper. Not really for the hardcore rider, the lever dont take too much abuse.
Saying that a good brake system work the money...

Similar Products Used:

None, used v's before

[Jun 12, 2001]
Alex Green
Weekend Warrior

OVERALL
RATING
4
VALUE
RATING
4
Strength:

Solid construction, quiet, reasonable stopping power on soft blocks.

Weakness:

No stopping power on hard/medium blocks, soft blocks last 5 minutes, pain in the ass to set up and maintain, make the back of the frame flex even with a booster on. Completely useless in the wet.

I have the latest HS12 model, which is a marginal updtae of the 11's. I wouldn't really recommend these as the HS33 setup doesn't cost a lot more. If you get them setup properly with new soft blocks on clean rims you can scare yourself with the amount of stopping power, 25 mileslater they are lifeless and need a good hard yank to work. Not much for tricks as you need to use both hands to get the brakes to pull hard enough. Budget for regular block changes or dull performance on hard blocks. Easy to release wheel though. Get full of mud at the slightest hint of the sticky stuff and stop working all together wen the going gets tough. Build quality is very good and solid and will last a long time, if kept in check these are good brakes, but can you really be bothered? not me! I'm changing to a front disc as soon as finances allow. It does make a good back brake (with an alloy booster) as the amount of graduation in pull makes it easy to get out of a lock up. very good if road riding is your thing (I'm about 50/50 on road to off).

Similar Products Used:

Assorted V-brakes, lotsa discs from Hayes mechanical to hope an enduros.

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