Sunken Meadow Trail of Tears - TRAIL

Sunken Meadow Trail of Tears - Trail, Kings Park, York

First half of the ride is on deep sand with root obstacles and treacherous rollercoaster type terrain. The Long Island Sound is on your left and the trail runs along a sharp escarpment offering a great view of the beach and water way down below. The second half of the trail is the easier part of the ride. You'll know it's upon you when you turn away from the cliff and the terrain becomes more stable. Still more ups and downs than level ground. The ride culminates with a short flat well groomed downhill that will have your speedometer hitting over 30 mph. There is a sharp right at the bottom of the trail however, so end with a bit of caution or you'll end up making tracks through a strangers potato salad as this trail ends up at a family picnic area of the park. Get out early and you won't have to contend with too many hikers and mountain joggers. Be especially courteous others here or they will eliminate our access to this trail.

User Reviews (11)

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Paul R.   Downhiller [Feb 03, 2013]

A great scenic trail in beautiful Kings Park N.Y., a little bit of everything is located on this single track. Anything from long cruisers(Do the trail backwards, there is a nice 1 mile + downhill)to roller coaster hills on the ridge. A full suspension is recommended but this trail can be done on a hard tail. An aggressive tire tread makes this trail even better.

Customer Service

I would start at Cardiac hill and do the trail in reverse, for the ridge is like a roller coaster and the loop back trail is a steady downhill. To me this gives you the funniest fastest ride. The other way is more uphill then down minus Cardiac hill, if one does not want to climb Cardiac follow the trail on the right(bottom of Cardiac looking up and go right) and then make all lefts on this trail, this will eventually lead to the top of Cardiac.

Similar Products Used: Sunken Meadow also has the Kohr Rd. trail, this is about a 1 1/2 mile downhill that is very fast and fun. To access this trail one would turn at the K.P. Beer distributer, take that to the end and make a left to find yourself on a residential dead end. Hop in the trail at this dead end and make a right, follow this trail until it forks left, take the left. Now just go straight until you hit the pines, continue going straight ignoring another entrance point you will see on the left in the pines. Once at the top of the pines your downhill begins, follow this trail straight until you come to a left or right, take the left and follow straight down to the bottom of Kohr rd. Continue down Kohr rd., you are now at the Sunken Meadow rd. entrance. Go in SM and make a right and this will bring you to the 3 1/2 mile loop.
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4
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3
NilocDraw   Downhiller [Dec 22, 2012]

If your new at this you'll walk a good part of the first bit. The view is amazing and it is worth the climb. Not a very long trail, I come here to mix up my riding.

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2
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4
johnjamieson   Weekend Warrior [Jul 20, 2008]

Someone told me that this was a beginner bike trail. Me and my 13 year old brother went out on this as our first trail rides ever. Needless to say we crashed like 4 or 5 times and had to walk sections of it because it gets to sandy. Alot of the hills are impossible to climb, including the famous cardiac hill. Just walking up the hill had us exhausted. The whole time we were busy crashing I was thinking there was no way this is a beginner trail, and it is not, but I have to say the down hill portions are a blast, it'll only take half an hour to an hour to ride the whole course. I wish I would have known that this trail was known as the trail of tears. :(

Customer Service

not sure

Similar Products Used: not sure
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4
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3
kewl9119   Cross Country Rider [Oct 28, 2004]

I'd rate this one of the best trails on the island. 70% for the awesome view of the sound and the meadow. Takes about half an hour or so to ride, and although it may be a bit sandy on the back stretch, and rooty on the northern stretch, it really doesn't matter. It just makes this trail more challenging, which makes it more fun in a way. Great views, but there are a lot of sudden drops, so don't go rediculously fast. The views are amazing, and I never encounter a problem with population on the trail. There are also some exits to lead you to Sunken Meadow Road, near St Johnland Road in Kings Park / San Remo.

Customer Service

Take the Sunken Meadow Parkway north past the toll booths. There's plenty of parking, a large north shore beach, parks, picnic areas, and a few golf courses.

Similar Products Used: Makamah - take 25A west from the parkway, about 5 miles. Just past IGA, make a right onto Makamah Rd. It comes up fast. If you hit Northport, you've gone too far. Also, the Nassau - Suffolk Greenbelt.
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5
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4
m8o   Weekend Warrior [Oct 10, 2004]

Finally came here today... I have two four letter words to describe this place -- "sand" and "root"! (I'm talking about what you'd constitute the "real" trails we mtn bikers would like to ride ; the narrow trails in the east and north east of this park) I read the postings of others long ago, and remembered the warnings of being careful along the ridge paralleling the beach. (US Geo Survey says it's around a 130 - 140ft ridge). When I saw it and rode it, I thought to myself how right that was. When my tires dug into the sand going up one of the hills and I rolled down the ridge with my bike still clipped to my feet and was only stopped by sticker bushes, I can say I know the risk intimately! I can honestly say, even before this event occurred, that I'd never walked my bike as much ever before on a ride. The sand in the trails up on the 140ft ridge is simply ridiculous and basically unridable. Certainly shouldn't have gotten back on the bike and tried that one hill that got me. ...looked ridable @ the time. If you're going to ride here, stick to the inland trails in the raw narrow northeastern trails ; or stick to the matrix of wide, soft, well maintained (by the state?), wood mulch covered, white chalk-marked cross country trails ; or ride the boardwalk. Doubt I'm ever going near that ridge again. Rode down the famous cardiac hill ... there was a woman rounding the corner coming up as I was approaching the bottom so I felt obligated to be a kind and thoughtful citizen and hit the brakes and took the turn wide on the other side of the trail, only to find a huge sand pit making up the whole junction/turn and dug in and fell. If I were rating just the north eastern MB trails, I'd give it 1, maybe 2 chilies. But 3 Chilies for the cross country routes that can give you a good workout if your want to do circles and loops (and of course some great downhills) or ride the boardwalk for a pleasant change.

Customer Service

Lock out your suspension if either your front and/or rear locks-out and stick to the manicured, wide, and well maintained cross-country trails ; or ride the boardwalk. Stay away from the ridge along the water. Pure aggravation at minimum ; threat to your life if you dig into all the sand and can't unclip in time to put the correct foot down at the wrong place (not kidding ; I have the scratches and serious limp to prove it) Ride the inland trails.

Similar Products Used: In the area, still like Crab Meadow the most ; then the trails behind the VA hospital (though looking on the USGS maps, I see some of the trails are sewage run offs for the VA Hospital ... eewh)
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3
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3
twinhaley@aol.com   Weekend Warrior [Mar 11, 2004]

verey good if you go to the right spotes

Customer Service

start at the kings park bluf you will see a restront caled the old dock make a left and go up a small hill park your car and take your bike up the tral behind you ther are klifs and hils and good vews take the trail to the end at a camp sight cross the bridge to sunken meto beach and park go to the end of the parking lot to your right and you will see the end of the nesiquag river and a small water fal and a pond that goes in the sound

Similar Products Used: closed down sike senter and bridel path to get to bridel path go down cherch street past the schools on the wright go up until you se twin oakes but do dont go on twin oakes there will be a path on your left go strate until you see a road with do cars go down until the park way go on the side walk until you hit the beach
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5
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1
Joe, Singer for 231   [Feb 24, 2002]

This is not a trail for the typical MTB rider. You will not like this trail unless you are out to test the limitations of yourself or your bike. Hit the trail hard and ride as fast as you can. The downhills will not offer much momentum for the up hills so it's up to you and your energy bar of choice to keep you from walking a lot. Watch out for the tree that is shaped so as to hip check you right off the cliff if you don't respect its presence. Its a short trail but if you treat it like a track and time yourself it will make a world of difference. If it were a bit longer I would have given it 5 stars.

Customer Service

Follow the directions as I suggested in the directions above unless you want to enter via the Kings Park boat launch ramp on the Eastern side of the trail, thereby starting the ride from the easier section.

Similar Products Used: Caumsett State Park in Lloyd Neck, Cathedral Pines in Middle Island, Rocky Point Trail in Rocky Point. Reviews of the CPT and RPT are on this site
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4
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Kix   [Feb 25, 2002]

If you are looking for a beautiful view while riding, this is it, Challanging... indeed. Fun, lots. I live about 7 min from the trail on my bike, I ride there a lot, it's short and sweet when you have no time and just want to get away for an hour or so. it'll give you a good work out, while offering you some technical challanges)sand, roots, rocks, tight trail consist dirt wall on one side and cliff on another, lods of fun!!

Customer Service

Top of Snake hill from SMSP

Similar Products Used: lots!! Stillwell... RP, CP, and more..
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4
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Hoffman   [Jun 17, 2002]

As a triathlete, I have absolutely no preference or bias or agenda towards any specific sport. I bike ride in this park several times per month, and run
in the park several times per week. Given my great frequency of visiting this place... I'm in a good position to offer an opinion. I want to make an
observation/comment for the benefit of other bikers.

FIRST, even among seasoned veterans (people who have
been running in this park for 15, 20+ years) it still
is not widespread common knowledge that mountain bike
riding is becoming more prevalent. Many runners find themselves very surprised when their running up a hill only to have a biker whip down the hill at 25+ miles per hour. This is a damned dangerous situation. I frequent this park enough (several times per week!!) that I'm starting to see some serious trends here (meaning I've already observed
3 accidents... 1 serious, and 2 which could have
been pretty serious if the parties involved were not
young fit individuals.. I'd hate to see this happen
to some ol'd lady who just wants to walk up the hill.)

Well, actually there is really only one problem that
I remotely view as dangerous; but I tell you this is
a very serious problem. PLEASE!!! PLEASE!!! when
you come to the top of "CARDIAC HILL"; approach at a
low speed and check to see if there are any runners
going up the hill. Then go down the hill at a reasonable speed, and go about your way.

Common sense prevails in this situation. Cardiac hill
as it has likely been called by runners for the last 30+ years is one of the main attractions of the park and is what makes Sunken Meadow one of the toughest cross-country courses in New York. People come here
60+ miles just to train specifically on this hill..
The point is, given the large number of runners who
specifically go on THIS hill, it's not appropriate to whip down it at 30+ miles per hour because:
(a) the hill has a blind turn which makes it hard to
see runners from the top and (b) is so damned steep that once you realize a runners in your path; you'd
have to take one hell of an evasive maneuvre to avoid
the collision.

The State of New York is already obsessed with avoiding lawsuits as it is; which is one of the reasons that they are always removing the technical and jumping sections of mountain bike trails from
various state parks. If some old lady got plowed
down on Cardiac Hill.... thats just the kind of thing
which would get biking priveledges revoked at
Sunken Meadow... Please, we all do not want that!
We want to be able to ride in this park. Thanks.

Other than the aforementioned gripe, I give the trails 3 stars. It's an average ride at best.
However, I very much enjoy the specific scenery
and wildlife in this particular park.

Customer Service

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3
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Christine   [Jul 10, 2002]

Can't imagine riding the sandy parts, which are twisty, have zero traction, sturdy branches hanging over the trail, with a steep and HIGH cliff dropoff waiting to rough you up. Lived on Long Island all my life, have always been hiking and running at Sunken Meadow, and though it was pleasant when I took my bike there, it's not singletrack heaven. More like a family atmosphere.

Customer Service

Yes, the location is great fun, BUT it really is primarily a place for hikers and runners.

Similar Products Used: Get your mtb fix by riding around the abandoned psych center- fascinating place!! Like a ghost town, complete with old street signs and cracked sidewalks, hills and spooky buildings. Or try the area behind the Northport V.A. Hospital golf course, which ends at Veterans Memorial Park near the train tracks. Not sure what the official name is for this trail network, but it's perfect for mtn biking.
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2
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