Gwydyr North Trail - TRAIL

Gwydyr North Trail - Trail, Betws-Y-Coed, United Kingdom

Way-marked trail in Gwydyr Forest with 2,800 feet of climbing, mostly on fire roads; and therefore a similar amount of descending, but mainly on rolling, twisty single track. A full description of all the twists and turns would take for ever - just follow the arrows.

User Reviews (8)

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IAN FENTON   Weekend Warrior [Jul 26, 2003]

An awesome trail slashed out of the Welsh hillsides. This is a trail that forces you to become a better rider. When I think of balls out single track I think of the Marin trail. The bottom bit of this trail leaves you on high for about 2 weeks, Defo office daydream material.

Customer Service

There's only one marked route however you can dive off the fire trail ascent (half way up) to do the two best bits of single track at the end.

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James & Maeve Kenningham   [Jun 30, 2002]

Starts off with a long fire road climb (you'll need to be fairly fit), and then alternates further fire road climbs and rolling single track descents. Some of the single track sections are a bit more rocky and require a bit more technical ability, particularily section 9 "The Dragon's Tail" which follows a rocky ridge through a wide area of cleared forest. This really is quite a feat of trail building skill. There are some incredible views of the surrounding area - enough to distract you from concentrating on the next section of tricky single track - watch out. You also get quite a sensation of remoteness even though Betws is never away.
I couldn't help feeling very slightly short changed - the long climbs seemed to out-weigh the single track descents, although I am sure that as this is a new trail there will be modifications to this ratio in the future. Over all definitely worth doing, makes a nice change from riding at Coed-y-brenin, but the single track doesn't quite match the MBR and Karrimor trails for technical rocky scariness. This does mean that it is suitable for fairly fit intermediates and experts alike.

Customer Service

Just follow the arrows from Gwydyr Chapel

Similar Products Used: The Red Bull, MBR and Karrimor trails all at Coed-y-brenin.
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ivan   [Sep 07, 2002]

I'd agree with the guy who reviewed this the first time, there is a lot of long climbs in this ride, but unlike most rides, you get all the hard climbs out of the way early in the ride. The single track is wicked olong this route, and of a high quality. The trail really shines on the second half as it is v. technical and mainly down hill as you built up height earlier in the ride. the ridge way is amazing, spliffs bench is a great place for a banana, u-hum and the final down hill section, into the car park, is a true spectacle, along with berms and table tops you've got carvings into the trees to make this a glittering ride. On par with the Karrimore at coed y brenin, but the views are more spectacular, but distance is less.

Worth a look!

Customer Service

as the signpost tell you

Similar Products Used: coed y brenin, snowdon bypass
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Lazybones   [Sep 16, 2002]

Climbs! where are you lot from? Norfolk I guess.
Cut out the plod from Betws by parking up at Llyn y Sarnau.
The Dragons Tail is where it's at...the rest will just continue to blow your mind.
This place has developed considerably since I first visited. There will probably be more by the time you get there. The trails vary from tight and technical to balls out descent...if you don't have a few sketchy moments GO ROUND AGAIN. FASTER.

Customer Service

Follow the signposts for a full circuit then mix and match your favourite sections.

Similar Products Used: Get on Snowdon and pretend you're Bender!
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Chris Sampson   [Nov 09, 2002]

The trail starts with a reasonably long forest road climb (couple of miles) before plunging down through some of the finest, if not the best, singletrack in Snowdonia. The rest of the trail follows that kind of pattern: most of the climbing (though not all) is on forest tracks and almost all of the descents are singletrack. The beauty of this trail is that even a reasonably inexperienced mountain biker could get around most of it slowly without having to get off, and at the end will still feel hugely satisfied. However, the more experienced MTBer will ride it fast. Very fast. Corners that are gentle when ridden slowly become tight, but still flowy, switchbacks that link together so well its almost unbelievable. Many of the corners in the fast, flowy, jumpy sections are bermed. Rises and humps in the singletrack become purpose built kickers and tabletops, technical sections become an adrenaline pumped quest to find the perfect line through the loose rocks. You get the impression: this trail is as difficult as you want it to be. None of it is hugely technical when ridden slowly, but up the pace and the trees become a blur as you focus on the trail ahead. This is definitely a ride for the adrenaline junkie!!

There are also several nice features along the trail. As I have already said, it is completely way-marked, and there are plenty of tree carvings along the way that make you smile. The views are stunning: you'll find yourself overlooking some beautiful lakes and mountains several times during the ride.

My view is that it is as good, if not better, than the trails at Coed-y-Brenin (I've ridden them all several times recently) and that is truly something.

One last thing: respect the other forest users. Although all of the singletrack is MTB specific, on the forest roads look out for horses and walkers. Enjoy it. That's what its there for!!!

Customer Service

It's 100% way-marked with MARIN way-marks. Also completley free. Maps are available at Biecs Betws in Betws-y-Coed

Similar Products Used: All of the trails at Coed-y-Brenin are superb. The cafe there is great as well!
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Andrew Moore   [Mar 02, 2003]

The route around Betws-Y-Coed is fantastic. I have never grinned so much at the end. I am I suppose a Weekend Warrior (I have a job!). This run starts with a 3k uphill thbat goes up and up and up in fact for 350M above sea level. If you get a good day the views are worth it...then it is time for the singletrack. I agree with one of the comments of if you do not have a few scares - GO FASTER. It is well worth it and the last major downhill lasted ages and was excellent. GOOD JOB!

Customer Service

Dalby Forest Red Route (North Yorkshire) handy little 16 miles. Mixture of frie road, singletrack, some big climbs and a small boggy area.

Similar Products Used: I have been told gret things about Coed-Y-Brenin (in particular Red Bull and Karrimor) and will be trying them in the near future.
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Jonathan   [Mar 16, 2003]

OK, went to Gwyder north aka the Marin Trail having heard very mixed reveiws. And this after an enforced 18 month break without mountain biking, so I expected to come away, tired bruised, and hating the place for its man made nature.

But its an excellent trail. Yes. long climbs, but they just mean more downhill, and the excellent mix of fire trail, double track and singletrack means it flows better than any singletrack I've ridden. Some neat things, its a figure 8 ride, but it can be hard to spot where the x over is, and the singletrack is laid out in ways that means when it spits you out onto a fire road or even tarmac, there is usually something to mean you don't plough straight onto the road, but have time to check for hazards.
Now although I'm experienced, I'm neither the fittest or the best rider out there, and in relation to which type of rider this trail suits, I think the answer is many. A fit new comer would manage the climbs, while the singletrack is good, technical in places, but never scary. Yet established riders would get from it what they put into it, so it suits a lot of people.
A "rougher" set up at the moment than Coed, but the day I rode it was the first decent day of spring, and it wasn't very busy, only a good thing. Coed can be a victim of its own success, and maybe tries to hard with its image, meaning some obstacles are put in place with seemingly very little thought as to the previous section, or the next one to come. Plus for me the Marin is little over an hour away, unlike the 2 + hours for Coed.
An absolute gem.

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Most out there

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Idwal iddi'n galed   [Jun 20, 2003]

I ride this trail often simply because it is the best trail in N Wales. As I've said, start from Llanrwst & get the two biggest climbs over with, the first is the longest taking you from the car park to the first section of ST. At the top there's a stunning view. The second climb isn't as long & it takes youy past some lead & zinc mines(here's a good place to rest & recover from the first climb). From here on it's a case of fire rd & ST passing some amazing views of Tyfan in the distance.
Next is the Dragons Tail & as another reviewer noted it truly is an absolutely brilliant piece of trail building, the terrain is like something out of a movie. Further on you get to Endor, a wooded area where you'll have to carry your bike a little, or ride it if your trials skills are good enough, through onto Stumpdance, a great piece of twisty ST through a cleared area. From here on your homeward bound, a little more ST then a bit of a climb until you reach the final DH, a three part section split by fire rds that will have you grinning from ear to ear. Fast sections, drops ,jumps, doubles, you name it, it's there. A litte more ST to take you back to the car park & a feeling of complete satisfaction.

The builders at Gwydyr deserve a lot of credit & praise 'co they got it spot on!

Customer Service

Start from the Llanrwst side & get most of the climbs over with early in the ride.

Similar Products Used: Red Bull, MBR & karrimor are also great, but Gwydyr just pippes them for its natural feel.
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