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Description:
- New Virtual Link 120mm/Five” travel frame
- Manitou Black Comp 100mm fork w/ Radium R air shock
- Avid BBDB-5 disc brakes
- SRAM X7 9-speed trigger shifters
- Ritchy Comp cockpit components
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Submitted by
david ponder
a Weekend Warrior
from Yosemite Kentucky
Date Reviewed: April 18, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$1400.00 | | Purchased At: | local bike shop | | Strengths: | Suspension design definitely works as advertised. It took a couple rides when I first got the bike to get used to the geometry, but once I did it will outclimb my old hardtail. | | Weaknesses: | As mentioned before, the paint is soft. I have had the bottom brackett go bad twice. Both times it was replaced under warranty. | | Bike Setup: | Stock setup with eggbeater pedals and 1.8 panaracer fire xc pro's | | Bottom Line: | I have owned this bike for over a year. I ride about once a week and have raced it in 3 xc races. It has held up nicely. This is my first full suspension bike. I did lots of research before the purchase and feel I made a good decision. Any problems I have had have been taken care of by my local shop and Haro. Initially I was concerned with the clearance of the chainrings and also the rear derailleur. But aside from some scratches on the chainstay I have had no problems, even in mud. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Don Losole
a Racer
from San Antonio, Texas
Date Reviewed: December 23, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Flat Rock Ranch, Comfort Texas | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$999.00 | | Purchased At: | Sun & Ski | | Strengths: | The suspension design is great. If you put the right amount of air in the rear shock it handles like a hard tail. The components are good if it is your first bike. Nice Ritchey stem and handel bar. | | Weaknesses: | The paint sucks. It chips very easy. I had to put frame patches where the cables touch the frame. My first ride rubbed the paint off the frame near the headtube.
| | Similar Products Used: | First full suspension. | | Bike Setup: | Sonix VL120, Full xt groupo, XT Hollowtech crank, Mavic Crossmax tubless wheels, Kenda Nevgal 2.1 tubless tires, Thompson Elite seatpost, | | Bottom Line: | I have been riding hardtails for 15 years and my body could not take it anymore. I was worried about the extra weight and loosing pedaling power.It took me about a month to get used to the diffrence. However I love the bike and the way it handles. I have no problem keeping up with all my racer friends on hardtails. I will never go back to a hardtail. I would tell anyone to get this bike. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris S
a Weekend Warrior
from Houston TX
Date Reviewed: December 7, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$700.00 | | Purchased At: | EBAY | | Strengths: | Great all around package for the money.
Great suspension - | | Weaknesses: | None found yet. (other than on their 16 inch frames Haro puts 175 mm Cranks) Most other 16 inch frames come with 170MM cranks. I had to replace those cranks immediately....with 170's. | | Similar Products Used: | Test rode - Mostly sub $1K FX bikes. NON copared to this, except the GT Idrive. Iron Horse Azure and a couple other IH's, K2, GT I-drive, Motobecane Fantom & HT & FS's, Novarra MEthod. And lots of Hard tails ...Kona, Cannondale, Trek's ..etc... | | Bike Setup: | Stock excetp for upgraded cranks to STYLO 170 mm & ERGON magnesium grips/bar ends. | | Bottom Line: | It's my 1st FS bike...and WOW....
Everyone told me to get ready for a power loss in a full susp bike, as compared to a hardtail. But I have barely noticed it. I attribute it to the HAro VLS suspension.
Great overall package - very resonsive suspension system. Good components package. SRAM X7...solid.
Bike is not that heavy...around 29 lbs.
Suspension is a little noisy...with some creaks...but there are several moving parts so I guess that's expected....
I have done: climbing, light descending, XC riding & 2-4 foot drops on this bike. And I am very impressed overall.
I weigh 175 lbs..and the stock shock seems to be OK for me. Feels like hard tail when peddeling and a Full susp. when you take on rough stuff. Great on Singletrack too. Center of gravity feels low and balanced.
As far as a FS bike (entry or mid level) for singletrack and XC riding - this has got my vote.
If you have more cash and want better components...get the upper end models...Werx etc..but the Sonix is the cheapest one they make with the VLS. And it gets you into a great FS bike for not that much money.
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Submitted by
da haro rider sonix 4 life
a Downhiller
from texarkana tx
Date Reviewed: September 27, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Albert pike | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$3000.00 | | Purchased At: | berridge bikes | | Strengths: | It's a HARO....bomb proof | | Weaknesses: | rear shock | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | custom VL120 | | Bottom Line: | This bike is light with the help of the shop tec we got mine to 25LBS how many bikes with 120 travel can do that | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joseph Guarino
a Weekend Warrior
from San Diego, CA
Date Reviewed: July 31, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Sycamore Canyon/Mission Trails | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$2700.00 | | Purchased At: | Greenfishsports.com | | Strengths: | Great Climbing bike. I can actually stand up while climbing in loose dirt and get very little tire slippage. Good construction and geometry. | | Weaknesses: | Not much in the way of reputation yet. | | Similar Products Used: | Haro XLS R5 | | Bike Setup: | Werx Sonix frame (the white one), SRAM X.0 rear, XTR front, Avid Juicy Carbon levers and disc brakes, SRAM shifters, Thompson seat post, Monkey lite handlebar, Magura wheels, Kendra Nevegal tires, Fox RP23, Fox RL100 fork. | | Bottom Line: | Great bike for the money. The combination of the components and the frame make this the best bike I could find for the money. To buy a similar bike with similar components would cost me over $3500. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Todd Newman
a Cross Country Rider
from Hyrum, Utah, US
Date Reviewed: July 3, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | 900 | | Strengths: | remarkable suspension! Very responsive to minor corrections. | | Weaknesses: | none so far. | | Similar Products Used: | Only my second Mountain Bike ever, last was 1986 rockhopper. | | Bottom Line: | I test rode quite a few bikes, and everything led me back to this 2006 blazing copper Haro. The virtual link suspension is the most remarkable feeling to have your feet on the cranks and those are in the rear half of the suspension of this bike, and your butt on the seat on the front half of the frame. this is unusual across most others, as the cranks are generally tied to the front portion of the frame and that was giving me that 'crumby squishy bobble' to the cranks as I tested other bikes. This years model I understand has a rear lockout, but so far I have not found the need to lock the rear just due the design.
As for Haro as a brand, I had never heard of them. After doing quite a lot of searching and test riding, the Haro product is the best value out there for the money in my opinion!!!!
If you can find one of these VL120's still in the box, I highly recommend this as a less expensive alternative to the $3,000+ mountain bikes out there.
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Submitted by
Drew
a Weekend Warrior
from Brisbane Australia
Date Reviewed: June 25, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$2200.00 | | Strengths: | great cross country bike - couldn't ask for better, I have raced a couple of 24hr races and racked up over 3000km in 11 months never missed a beat apart from breaking the cranks in the first month ( which they replaced free with an upgrade to the next model ( stylo ) | | Weaknesses: | front chainrings too close to chainstay | | Similar Products Used: | haro r5 - specialized stumpy- | | Bike Setup: | stock frame - stylo cranks - x9 shifters and rear derailleur xt front derailleur | | Bottom Line: | all around great bike for the money - all my mates ride more expensive bikes and are lookin for at a haro next time they upgrade | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Cracker69
a Weekend Warrior
from Milwaukee
Date Reviewed: June 14, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Crystal Ridge in Franklyn WI | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$1000.00 | | Purchased At: | smart cycles | | Strengths: | Nice build, light weight, unusual appearence, tracks brilliantly, permits hammering out of the seat - how many FS bikes let you do that ! | | Weaknesses: | Finicky setup, don't believe everything you read work it out for yourself. | | Similar Products Used: | Motobecane fantom comp II | | Bike Setup: | Haro Sonix VL120 18", 06 Minute 03 100mm fork, Radium shock, XT derailleurs, sram 8 speed casette, Raceface DH cranks, Sette APX seat post, WTB speed V saddle (best fit ever), Sun DS2-XC wheels, Panaracer Fire XC tires, bontrager select 80 mm stem, hayes MX-2 6" mech disc brakes, shimano shifters. | | Bottom Line: | So here is the deal,
I'm 202 lbs (215 with full kit), 5'11", 34.5" inseam. I have set the seat height to 28" from the center of the spindle (0.833 of my inseam).
I live in Wisconsin so the terrian is a mix of things, plenty of tight single track, rock gardens, sand, some climbing, some modest downhill - nothing too death defying.
I purchased this frame for 300 bucks from Smart cycles and built up the rest by stripping parts off my moto and adding the minute 03 which just happened to be exactly the recommended travel for this frame. I immediately became anamored with the look of the bike and was convinced it would be a cool ride possibly superior to my moto because of the pivot link.
What I dicovered on my first few rides was the bike seems to bump steer in the front and pogo in the rear - a genuine problem in very tight single track. I prefer the bike to be somewhat taught so I keep the fork pumped to about 180 psi and the rear shock was set about the same. The sag on the rear is about 6-7 mm and it still felt to compress too easily particularly over sharp edged bumps and through g-outs.
I'd read all of the setup information regarding the 10mm of sag in the rear recommended for this design. But how best to measure that. Should you climb on and off the bike as carefully as possible and check the O-ring displacement, or should I sit down hard and let it cycle to rest, slide the O-ring to meet the shock body then climb of carefully to measure ? Or ride around for an hour an then check it by the latter method -Beats me. The radium has enough stiction to make all these methods bunk.
So I decided to work it out for myself as we all should. What I discovered was that the 18" frame is a touch on the smalle side for me. The work around was simple though, I simply dropped the seat about 1/2 an inch to get a little closer to the pivot point and slid the seat forward about an inch for the same reason. I compensated on the front end by switching to a slightly longer stem. All of these changes gave me a significant weight shift to the front. This had the dual effect of controlling the bump steer and placing less leverage on the rear so that the wallowing over sharp edge bumps and g-outs evaporated. I could back off on the pressure in the rear a bit with these settings. I added about 9 clicks of rebound to the Radium which made a huge difference to its manners.
With these changes I can honestly say that I'm now thoroughly satisfied with this mangle. It just tracks fantastically almost everywhere, it is lightwieght (at least it feels light), the suspension is predictable and I'm steadily gaining confidence in what I can expect the bike to deal with. The one thing that just blows me away is that I (all 215 lbs) can get out of the seat and hammer up long climbs without any noticeable pogo effect. I was convinced this was impossible on a FS bike without a lockout. Niether the minute or the radium have a lockout yet the bike barely breaks traction with me jumping in the pedals - remarkable. This is not true for loose climbs where of course traction is lost and I'm better off seated, but I don't need to slide to the nose of the seat, staying centered is just fine. I'm a full ten minutes faster on a ~15 mile loop that I do regularly - enough said. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Reaper
a Weekend Warrior
from Denver
Date Reviewed: March 28, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Dakota Ridge | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$3000.00 | | Purchased At: | online-built from frame up | | Strengths: | Suspension works as advertised and has proven extremely more plush than my Specialized FSR setup on my other bike. The extra travel (4.75") is an added boost and the suspension seems to really use all of it. The frame is built tough but fairly light. The extremely slack seatpost angle sets the rider further back over the back wheel which provides greater traction going uphill. | | Weaknesses: | The chainstay situation reported in a previous post can indeed happen. Most bikes have little clearance between the chainrings and the chainstays but on the Sonix it does seem to be a little closer. Contact with the chainstay can occur when rocks get jammed up in there or a chain kinks up. The slack seatpost angle will position the rider further back than what you experience on most other bikes that might be cause for concern for some. It takes a couple of rides to get used to but once you get the rest of the bike geometry dialed in, the slack seatpost angle seems to really improve traction and make for a comfortable ride. | | Similar Products Used: | Azonic Propulsion, Haro XLS R3, | | Bike Setup: | Custom built from Frame up - Rock Shox Reba Race 100mm fork, TruVativ Team Stylo Giga Crank and BB, Mavic 819 UST Rims with Hope XC Hubs, Manitou Radium rear shock (will replace soon), Maverick Speedball R seatpost, E3 saddle, SRAM XO Carbon trigger shifters, SRAM X9 rear dearilleur, Shimano XTR front deraileur, TruVativ Team anodized handlebar with Team Stem, Magura Louise FR Hydraulic brakes | | Bottom Line: | I've been wanting to build one of these frames up ever since I first saw the prototype a couple of years back. I've been a long time Haro fan dating back to riding Haro BMX bikes so I am probably a little biased.
My first two outings with this bike were over a two week period riding Moab and Fruita trails. The bike geometry took a little while to get used to with the slack seatpost angle but once I got everything dialed in I really started to feel comfortable on the bike and was amazed at how well the suspension worked. I noticed the plushness right off the bat while biking the Porcupine Rim Jeep trail and descending over 2 foot drops with complete control and ease. The rear suspension never bottomed out but the entire suspension was used which is what I wanted to see.
I then rode Slickrock trail and the geometry of the bike really worked well climbing and descending the steep slickrock angles.
I've only had a couple of rides on the bike along the Front Range in Colorado including Roxborough Loop and have found virtually no bob in the suspension while climbing smooth singletrack but as soon as you hit the slightest bump the suspension actuates which is great.
Overall, I am very pleased with this bike. I'm not sure I would be happy with the stock components that come on the VL120. I built mine from the frame up with the components listed above and the combination works extremely well.
I would like to see a little more width in the chainstay on future models (mine is a 2006)but to some degree the close quarters of the chainring to the chainstay is a work of art.
I would definitely recommend this bike to any of my all-mountain / cross-country riding buddies. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rom
a Weekend Warrior
from Israel
Date Reviewed: February 17, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Jorshan, Merav, Maanit | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$1750.00 | | Purchased At: | Matzman-Merutz | | Strengths: | Great frame. Climb? Descent? Takes anything you throw at it. Components are cheap but mostly fine. Cable brakes are much better than expected with excellent power although the occasional adjustment. | | Weaknesses: | Crankset is to close to the chainstay. Big and medium chain rings carve into the beautiful-blazing-orange-but-soft aluminum chainstay with every little stone that gets in there. And then a tooth bends and it gets even worse.
Front Deraileur is too close to the wheel. Picks up gobs of mud on rainy days and the mud just stays there, churning and grinding on the chain into the front derailleur. Then the mud stays on the chain and the chain starts to skip on the rear cassette, especially under torque and on the smaller rings. Mud scratches and rubs off all the dry-lub, no matter how much PTFE is there, and the chain starts to rust no matter what you do even before you're back home and you realize that stainless steel actually stains.
Tires are not good for muddy or wet terrain. Clog up in no time and take too long until the grooves reopen and start to track and grip again.
Original Black front fork is not doing this frame justice. The 100-120mm setup is enough for XC but once you go up and down the rocky slopes you want more. Got the Float and voila! | | Bike Setup: | Stock + Fox Float. | | Bottom Line: | Great value for money. XC and more. Excellent frame and components. Crackset too close to chainstay. Great ride strictly for dry conditions. Not fit for mud. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Drew
a Weekend Warrior
from Brisbane Australia
Date Reviewed: December 11, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$1800.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | sram x7 nice and smooth
cable brakes much better than expected | | Weaknesses: | none yet | | Similar Products Used: | haro shift r7 and werx | | Bike Setup: | standard setup (cranks upgraded to stylo) | | Bottom Line: | if you are after a good reliable mid range softail that doesnt have all the bells and whistles but wont let you down then this is the bike for you | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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