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NoTubes.com
Best Tubeless Sealing Kit
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Description:Stan’s Tubeless System:
Converts your standard rims and tires to a tubeless system. Has the ability to be used with tubeless and non-tubeless tires. This cost efficient light weight system reduces rotating weight for faster and easier pedaling. This Tubeless system will convert 2 tires and rims and includes: 1 pint of Stan's Tire and Rim Sealant (seals approximately 8 tires), a 60g scoop, 2 Molded Rim Strips with removable valve core, 1 roll nylon reinforced tape, and decal.
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Submitted by
Charlie
a
from Houston, Texas
Date Reviewed: April 28, 2008 | | Favoriate Trail: | Bluff Creek Ranch (Warda) | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$60.00 | | Purchased At: | On-line | | Strengths: | Cheaper way to go tubeless than buying new UST rims and tires. | | Weaknesses: | Initial setup is difficult. Costly for what you get in the kit. | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Cobia 29er converted to 1 x 9, DT Swiss TK7.1D rims, 340 hubs, monkeylite bars. | | Bottom Line: | I read the instructions and watched the installation video several times. I followed all instructions EXACTLY. It was still a major pain in the butt to get the tires to seal (about 2 hours worth of shaking, laying on side, re-inflating to 40psi, etc., etc.). The installation video implies tires seal in about 5 minutes and the written instructions say even the most difficult tires seal in 30 minutes. Anyway, my 29er Maxxis Crossmark's on TK7.1 rims ultimately did seal and have been holding air ever since. I have not yet given them a full test by fire, but the tires seemed to do OK on my little backyard obsticle course.
If you don't mind investing time and energy into this project and are pretty handy, then you might want to buy this. Oh yeah, and if you own a compressor. No way this stuff works without getting the tire started with a compressor.
But if you want something simple and clean and don't mind spending some more money, then go for UST rims and tires and skip Stan's. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Robert Bowers
a Racer
from Mt Tamborine Qld Australia
Date Reviewed: March 19, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$25.00 | | Purchased At: | through shop I do fill in work at | | Strengths: | Reduced flats. Spend more time in the saddle. Improved handling and traction. Improved comfort/rolls better over rough ground. | | Weaknesses: | Not for lazy people who neglect maintenance or have all work done by their LBS | | Similar Products Used: | My own latex system. Systems used for fixing bladers in footballs. In fact I did this before finding out about Stan's but never hooked on to the potential in a marketing success. | | Bike Setup: | NRS carbon. Stan's Olympic wheelset. Yellow rim tape and Continental Supersonic Explorers, a similar wheelset with Maxlite 310s and a AmClassic Sprint 350 wheelset with Hutchys. The Stan's rim strips work only for a little while. I used them on some Bontrager Asym rims that would not inflate and the stems tore out v easily (just put a nut on the thread spin it all the way down and add a nereopene washer and place the strip on and poke the stem through the strip and rim and another nut on to hold it together - problem solved, and I ran this for a year). | | Bottom Line: | In my opinion these are one of the top MTB innovations, just coming in behind clippless pedals.
Some people hate the stuff. It is expensive in that it is a simple chemical with some solid particles in it, however, the benefit is worth the cost.
I does take some looking after and during warner times of the year I'll pull the tires off every eight weeks, in winter every three months. Better pulling tires off at home than on the trail. I have perhaps one of two punctures a year that the sealant won't fix when I've had big cuts, but it would be every second ride that I get a flat that self seals and where all I've had to do on a regular 2-3hr ride is add another 5psi (I run about 30psi in a 2.1, 32-35 in a Maxlite 310 and 90-100psi in the road tubless). Sometimes I just see the evidence of the sealant leaking out when I get back to the car or get home without having to put an air in.
I could never go back to tubes as my primary set up. Tubes are a back up for only. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Larry Ginzkey
a Cross Country Rider
from Denver, Colorado, US
Date Reviewed: January 20, 2008 | | Favoriate Trail: | Monarch Crest | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$57.00 | | Purchased At: | Stan's No-Tubes | | Strengths: | Stan's works. In over five years riding all over Colorado I have never had a flat. I get better uphill traction and downhill braking by using lower air pressure -- plus the ride is smoother and tires last notably longer, too. | | Weaknesses: | Set-up is messy -- don't try it in your living room! May not work with every rim / tire combination. Recommend using high pressure air hose (rather than floor pump) to get tire to seat on rim. Must add sealant every 2-3 months, as it dries out over time. When iinstalling a new tire, must scour rim completely to remove dried sealant before new tire will seat properly. | | Similar Products Used: | None. | | Bike Setup: | Santa Cruz "Heckler" 1999-2005; Ellsworth "Truth" 2005-present. Currently run Mavic 717 disc rims with WTB Weirwolf or Velociraptor tires or IRC Mythos XC tires. | | Bottom Line: | Pros:
1. Stan's prevents flats from external sources (thorns, rocks) and internal pinch flats (because you can run tires at reduced air pressure).
2. Running at lower air pressure gives better uphill traction and downhill braking; also gives smoother ride and tires last longer.
Cons:
1. At $57 for the kit and $10 per pint refills, Stan's is not cheap. But you don't have to continually buy tubes and tires may last longer.
2. Set-up is messy and there is a learning curve to get it right. Need high pressure air hose to get tires to seat properly on rims.
3. Stan's may not work with all tire & rim combinations.
4. You have to replenish sealant every 2-3 months, as it dries out over time.
5. When you install a new tire you have to thoroughly clean the dried sealant from the rims to get the tire to seat properly.
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Submitted by
Dick Slessig
a Cross Country Rider
from L.A., Ca. USA
Date Reviewed: July 14, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$60.00 | | Purchased At: | bikeman | | Strengths: | cheap way to go tubeless | | Weaknesses: | falls apart | | Bike Setup: | Kona Explosif 29er. WTB Dual Duty rims. | | Bottom Line: | After 6 months of use, the valves on both rim strips separated from the strips themselves. I managed to fix the first one by putting a nut on the inside and sealing it with epoxy, and now it looks like I'll be doing the same on #2. The system does work, but it's a messy business when you have to remove the tire and put in a tube trailside. I'd be a lot more forgiving if it cost a third of the price, which would be reasonable for what basically amounts to 2 innertubes and a pint of fix-a-flat. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
dave
a Cross Country Rider
from boise
Date Reviewed: June 12, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$55.00 | | Purchased At: | pricepoint | | Strengths: | inexpensive | | Weaknesses: | compatibility | | Bike Setup: | 2005 heckler, 2004 ibex hardtail, 2 sets mavic crosslands with hutchinson pythons, 1 set mavic 717s with python non ust tires and stans conversion kit. | | Bottom Line: | I have had it with this system you do not know what a hassle it is until you try a UST wheel and tire setup, my point is UST rim and tires are designed to be compatable with each other stans notubes rimstrips are not compatable with certain wheels and many tires. UST wheel and tires have no install problems or compatibility issues i have used them for years with no problem, I do add stans sealant.Some of the newer UST tires are around 600 grams now so that makes UST even more attractive.Stans system is frustrating, maxxis tires reccomended? I wasted money mail ordering a set of rancheros...they leaked profusely through the sidewalls and despite trying many techniques they still leaked, leaking throuigh the valve stem hole in the rim, tried all reccomended fixes carefully placing rim tape, checking for holes in rim strip ect, the rim strip was brand new,returned them and still had problem with another new rim strip....no holes and carefully soaped up and installed and carefully checking it was seated in rim lip, back wheel no problem whatsoever.UST system was carefully researched and developed and it shows...a bullet proof system that is so reliable..sorry stan I give up.cost is not much of an issue with me since mavic crosslands are only $250.00 for a set. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
dave
a Cross Country Rider
from boise
Date Reviewed: June 12, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$55.00 | | Purchased At: | pricepoint | | Strengths: | inexpensive | | Weaknesses: | compatibility | | Bike Setup: | 2005 heckler, 2004 ibex hardtail, 2 sets mavic crosslands with hutchinson pythons, 1 set mavic 717s with python non ust tires and stans conversion kit. | | Bottom Line: | I have had it with this system you do not know what a hassle it is until you try a UST wheel and tire setup, my point is UST rim and tires are designed to be compatable with each other stans notubes rimstrips are not compatable with certain wheels and many tires. UST wheel and tires have no install problems or compatibility issues i have used them for years with no problem, I do add stans sealant.Some of the newer UST tires are around 600 grams now so that makes UST even more attractive.Stans system is frustrating, maxxis tires reccomended? I wasted money mail ordering a set of rancheros...they leaked profusely through the sidewalls and despite trying many techniques they still leaked, leaking throuigh the valve stem hole in the rim, tried all reccomended fixes carefully placing rim tape, checking for holes in rim strip ect, the rim strip was brand new,returned them and still had problem with another new rim strip....no holes and carefully soaped up and installed and carefully checking it was seated in rim lip, back wheel no problem whatsoever.UST system was carefully researched and developed and it shows...a bullet proof system that is so reliable..sorry stan I give up.cost is not much of an issue with me since mavic crosslands are only $250.00 for a set. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
dave
a Cross Country Rider
from boise
Date Reviewed: June 12, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$55.00 | | Purchased At: | pricepoint | | Strengths: | inexpensive | | Weaknesses: | compatibility | | Bike Setup: | 2005 heckler, 2004 ibex hardtail, 2 sets mavic crosslands with hutchinson pythons, 1 set mavic 717s with python non ust tires and stans conversion kit. | | Bottom Line: | I have had it with this system you do not know what a hassle it is until you try a UST wheel and tire setup, my point is UST rim and tires are designed to be compatable with each other stans notubes rimstrips are not compatable with certain wheels and many tires. UST wheel and tires have no install problems or compatibility issues i have used them for years with no problem, I do add stans sealant.Some of the newer UST tires are around 600 grams now so that makes UST even more attractive.Stans system is frustrating, maxxis tires reccomended? I wasted money mail ordering a set of rancheros...they leaked profusely through the sidewalls and despite trying many techniques they still leaked, leaking throuigh the valve stem hole in the rim, tried all reccomended fixes carefully placing rim tape, checking for holes in rim strip ect, the rim strip was brand new,returned them and still had problem with another new rim strip....no holes and carefully soaped up and installed and carefully checking it was seated in rim lip, back wheel no problem whatsoever.UST system was carefully researched and developed and it shows...a bullet proof system that is so reliable..sorry stan I give up.cost is not much of an issue with me since mavic crosslands are only $250.00 for a set. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Randy
a Cross Country Rider
from Portland
Date Reviewed: December 9, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Strengths: | Flat protection. | | Weaknesses: | Finicky about tires. Burps air too easily. Messy. | | Bottom Line: | I've used Notubes systems for about 5 years. The conversion kits are the worst. They are very finicky about tires. I found several tires that sealed well in the workshop but every one of them would burp air if you hit the side of a rock or a punji stick.
The Notubes rims are much better about not burping air but they are still very finicky about tires. The tire will usually seal right the first time but if you remove the tire and put it back on there always seem to be problems. The bead seems to get stretched out and it's hard to get them aired up. A new tire can often be seated with a hand pump but take the tire off and try putting it back on again and you will need a shop compressor.
Two scoops of sealant weighs 120 grams. Add the rim strip to that and you have 170 grams total per tire. Even if you just use the valve stem and not the rim strip you're looking at the same weight as a lightweight tube at 120-140 grams and lots of hassle.
If you're looking at Notubes in 29" be aware that the only tire with a kevlar bead that is recommended is the Stan's Crow. This airs up well on the Notube rim but the tread is almost non-existent. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike
a Cross Country Rider
from OC CA
Date Reviewed: August 29, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | all | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$57.00 | | Purchased At: | ebay | | Strengths: | NO FLATS. That is for sure. Works very well. Simple installation process. | | Weaknesses: | Tedious on some sets of rims and tires according to the reviews here. No problems on mine | | Similar Products Used: | none. First tubeless anything | | Bike Setup: | Mavic x317 rims and kenda dtc nevegal tires 2.1 | | Bottom Line: | I have the tires that everyone here says are the problem child, Kenda Nevegal DTC 2.1. I got them to work. I had a few issues with the "zits" on the sidewall. I emailed Mike over at no tubes and he said to put a little super glue on them after they seal with stan's, no issues after. The sidewalls were not an issue. Mine also sealed in less than a day. They would lose a little pressure because of "zits" but once I sealed those... I did drill my valve hole to 3/8 just like Stan advises. I couldn't get the rim strip to flatten unless I drilled it. Some people don't drill. Everyone complaining about the price and not getting much think of a better product. If you come up with your own system charge whatever you want. It's still a free country. Stan can charge whatever. Don't buy it if you can't afford it. Tubes are fairly cheap. Anyway just my 2. Email me if you want detailed installation tricks I figured out.
Great product at a great price. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Marcus Austin
a Cross Country Rider
from Rancho Cucamonga, CA, USA
Date Reviewed: August 6, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | none | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$75.00 | | Purchased At: | Competive Edge | | Strengths: | Does what it says. I've pulled thorns out of my tires and watched them instantly seal.
-Does take a while to install but consider the inconvience of replacing a tube on a trail vs. replacing a little bit of air with this kit. | | Weaknesses: | -First time installation can be a little time consuming, but do it once and it's a breeze any other time.
-Price is a little steep considering what your getting. But the liquid refills are more reasonable.
-will not seal cuts as well as punctures. I got a small slit in my tire and it did seal it but on another ride I came down hard on the tire and the same slit blew out.
-Liquid needs refilled about ever 3 months(Good news is you can purchase an injector to fill it through the valve vs. breaking the bead) | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Cannondale Rush 400 | | Bottom Line: | I would recommend this to anyone who does a lot of riding. Don't let the installation process steer you away..visit this page for video clips on the install as well as demonstrations on the product http://www.notubes.com/support_movies.php
I don't know about all rims but I use a floor pump on mine with little problems. Some times it won't take air but smack the tire a little while pumping and it should seal enough to take air. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Gary
a Cross Country Rider
from West Texas
Date Reviewed: July 19, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | XC | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$50.00 | | Purchased At: | online | | Strengths: | NO flats since installation. None. Can run lower tire pressure. Lighter system than tubes with slime. | | Weaknesses: | Installation a bit messy. Floor pump not adequate for most new tire mounts. Sealant must be replenished. | | Similar Products Used: | None. | | Bike Setup: | NRS1. | | Bottom Line: | Tires successfully used with Stan's: Hutchinson Python, Mosquito, Bulldog. Riding in west Texas means anything green has thorns attached. Lots of rocks. After installing Stan's I have experienced NO flats. That in inself justifies the price and effort of installation.
OBSERVATIONS:
1. An irregular cut from glass etc. may not seal reliably - at least not as good as a round puncture from a thorn.
2. Mounting a new tire using a floor pump, especially one that has been folded or rolled, seems easier if the tire is first mounted with a tube for several hours. This "premounting" straightens out some of the kinks. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Larry Ginzkey
a Cross Country Rider
from Denver, Colorado, USA
Date Reviewed: May 19, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | Monarch Crest, Colorado | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$57.00 | | Purchased At: | by mail from Stan's | | Strengths: | * great thorn protection
* much better traction at lower PSI
* can ride faster & brake harder
* cushier ride because tires don't bounce off rocks
* don't rip side knobbies from tire because of lower PSI | | Weaknesses: | * expensive for what you get
* messy set-up
* must replenish fluid in tire periodically
* may not work with all rims and/or tires
* can be a chore to clean rims to install new tires. | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | Santa Cruz "Superlite" w Sun Rhyno-lite rims & IRC Mythos tires. Ellsworth "Truth" with Mavic 717 rims & WTB Epic Wolf tires. | | Bottom Line: | ENDORSEMENT: I give Stan's a qualified "thumbs up." But as you can see from these reviews, this product is not for everyone.
RIDING STYLE: I ride aggressive cross-country trails all over Colorado and around Moab. I ride hard & fast, but prefer to keep my wheels on the ground. I weigh 175 lbs. My bikes weigh in around 27 lbs.
EXPERIENCE WITH STAN'S: The WTB Epic Wolf tires were a snap to convert, even using a hand pump. The IRC Mythos were a lot more hassle and required a compressor. As stated, using Stan's can get messy, so don't install in your living room! I used to run my tires at 45-50 PSI to avoid pinch flats (which caused some really painful crashes), but didn't like the way the tires bounced around on rough trails or the fact that I frequently ripped the side knobbies off the tires. Now that I run at 30 PSI, the climbing traction is vastly improved, as is the ride quality. I feel I can ride faster and brake harder. There are trails around Denver loaded with goatheads, and I would almost always get flats riding them. Not any more, thanks to Stan's. Where I used to go through 4-6 tubes a year, now I use none. I have had no problems with tires "burping" or coming off the rims. My tires last longer because I'm not ripping the knobbies off. I have had no problem with the tires leaking air or the sidewalls blistering. Overall, I'm pleased with Stan's, but wish it were less expensive. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John Rantz
a Weekend Warrior
from Lubbock, TX USA
Date Reviewed: April 21, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | porupine rim - MOAB | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$55.00 | | Purchased At: | Stan's | | Strengths: | My pals and I switched to Stan's NoTube systems 4 weeks ago with the hope that we would reduce the number of flats and tube replacements we've been experiencing over the past several years. Our trails in West Texas are rocky with quite a lot of cactus and mesquite tree exposure. A bad combination for fallen riders and tubed tires. We've each probably gone thru 6-8 tubes per year (these were heavy tubes with the green stuff in them) and were getting exasperated with the frequency of flats when we heard about NoTubes.com. A week after switching we made our annual pilgrimage to Moab and after riding several of our favorite trails and really punishing our bikes and tires we unanimously agreed Stan's really Rocks. However the real testimonial comes from our ride this past Wednesday. It was a relatively cool day and our group was about half way through our ride when we found our trail blocked by a large Western Diamondback Rattler. As I tried to coax this 5 foot beauty off the trail she struck my front tire not once but twice with her venomous fangs, banging hard against the warm rubber of the tire on my front wheel. In seconds the hefty snake moved from the trail to allow our passage and despite the bites to the tire NoTubes came thru, sealed the holes and kept me going. Not only does your system hold up to nails, spikes, spokes, etc... it will also withstand the wrath of a pit viper should a rider ever be so unfortunate.
| | Weaknesses: | Difficulty getting the tires to seal completely the first few days after installation. | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Kona Kikapu | | Bottom Line: | Great product so far. Suggested users: those who routinely ride near cacti, mesquite, or rattlesnakes! Time will tell on the longevity of the product. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike
a Weekend Warrior
from Orange County
Date Reviewed: April 3, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$50.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | It Does what it says | | Weaknesses: | None Yet | | Similar Products Used: | Slime | | Bike Setup: | Trek Liquid 55 | | Bottom Line: | To address the comments below....Gee, why would Kenda or any other tire manufacturer be upset/non-endorsive of a product that makes you buy less of their tires? I don't know. Kenda specifically addresses their concerns on their website, because in Stan's Video Demo's he uses Kenda Tires. They're stating they don't reccomend the product because of threefold: One you but less tires (They last longer now), Two what if you want replicate the results (They don't want anything to do with it), Three Safety liability (They do not want to brought into a lawsuit and disclaimers/disclosure is the cheapest legal defense out there)
Bottom-Line is it works...For those that did NOT get it to work, I'm taking the gamble that they go impatient and did not go through the neccessary steps to make Stan's really seat in properly and then test it with the soap/water.
Great Product, wish it was cheaper. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
BobL
a Cross Country Rider
from Orange County, CA
Date Reviewed: March 31, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | San Juan, Noble, Merrill | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$60.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Less flats, can be lighter than tubes, less rolling resistance | | Weaknesses: | $$$, DOES NOT WORK W/ ALL TIRES/RIMS | | Similar Products Used: | Slime tubes | | Bike Setup: | Blur LT, 519's on Kings; Superlights (2)w/ 717's on Kings. | | Bottom Line: | First, as this is a consumer review, it is subjective, just as all the other reviews are. Subject to MY riding style, equipment preferences, local terrain, etc, etc. So for all the prima dona know-it-all's that like to bag on other folks reviews, I have your bag...
Now, both my gal and I have been running Stans since the system 1st came out. We tried ghetto versions as well (not all good). We both ran Stans on a 200+ mile, 6 day mtb trip w/ racks and panniers on our Superlights across SW CO into Moab. I got major punctures on rear tire, spun it 'till they sealed, pumped it up and kept riding, (VERY GOOD, considering the rack and pannier sitch). Neither of us had a flat the whole trip.(We both ran Velociraptors F & R)
I decided to run a Weirwolf 2.3 later and had major problems with it rolling off the rim, even at higher pressures. Broke my finger (Very bad). Put tire on gal's bike, never a problem. (bottom line: rider weight and terrain MATTERS)
I have begun using Kenda tires, because they work good for my style and terrain. They don't work that good with Stans, as I have to run a tube in the Kinetics rear (it just won't stay on the rim w/ stans, even w/ extra rim strip material)
Also, if you have a sidewall rupture, things get messy!Stans won't fix it, but a needle and thread with a tube will (I have had several). And when it comes time to change out a tire, it's no easy chore to clean the semi-dried schmegma off the strips, and be careful of certain schmegmalenes: mek and tolulene remove dried latex, but eat skin, rubber and brain cells. Best to use elbow grease, soap and a Scotchbrite pad (and a little Scotch, too)
A friend just went with the MAXIS rim strips (5 bucks each!) and my ghetto version of sealant: Modeling latex slightly diluted w/ distilled H2O and a little bit of plastic glitter( all available at a crafts store). It's been working GREAT for him for about 4 months now. I will try the MAXIS rim strips when I waste a Stans (does happen), cheaper AND works with Kenda's.
Bottom Line: Stans is a good product, but IMO, way over priced, considering what's on the market (MAXIS strips). The sealant works well w/ UST, but the entire system DOES NOT WORK WITH ALL TIRES/RIMS.
And if you don't like following directions, don't bother with it. Most folks (me too) have to view the online video, etc to get it right with certain circumstances.
And you will need a compressor or a case of CO2 carts. to get the initial inflation right.
Last but not least: if you are over 200lbs and like really rocky steep stuff, it might not be for you. If you are a stick legged NORBA flyweight, it's probably just the ticket for avoiding flats on a course. It's also great for fiance's who hate changing flats ("Honey!!! Can you come back here???")
Research this site, and NoTubes.com. If it looks like it will work,get some for you or your gal but read and follow the directions.
If not, don't blow the money; 65 bucks is a heckava good bottle of Singlemalt!
2 value flames 'cause imo, it's overpriced.
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Submitted by
Dewayne Wallace
a Cross Country Rider
from Lubbock, Texas,USA
Date Reviewed: March 23, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | Porcupine rim Utah | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$60.00 | | Purchased At: | Stans | | Strengths: | NEVER had a flat yet. Low weight and rolling resistance.
Seals all punctures. | | Weaknesses: | Non. Weakness is usually the ride not follwing the instructions or letting fluid dry up. | | Similar Products Used: | Slime tubes. | | Bike Setup: | Bike one: Fisher Sugar; XT, etc.
Bike two: Giant Faith; All the goodies. | | Bottom Line: | Pay attention to mounting and keep fluid level up.
Great product. In the first six months I saved enough in tubes to pay for system.( West Texas goatheads,catus and mesquite thorns.) | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dewayne Wallace
a Cross Country Rider
from Lubbock, Texas,USA
Date Reviewed: March 23, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | Porcupine rim Utah | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$60.00 | | Purchased At: | Stans | | Strengths: | NEVER had a flat yet. Low weight and rolling resistance.
Seals all punctures. | | Weaknesses: | Non. Weakness is usually the ride not follwing the instructions or letting fluid dry up. | | Similar Products Used: | Slime tubes. | | Bike Setup: | Bike one: Fisher Sugar; XT, etc.
Bike two: Giant Faith; All the goodies. | | Bottom Line: | Pay attention to mounting and keep fluid level up.
Great product. In the first six months I saved enough in tubes to pay for system.( West Texas goatheads,catus and mesquite thorns.) | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
dave
a Cross Country Rider
from boise
Date Reviewed: February 17, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$54.00 | | Purchased At: | pricepoint | | Strengths: | excellent support and installation info online, great sealing capabilitie, much lower costs not buying ust wheels, many more choices of tires. | | Weaknesses: | none, if you follow the instrutions. | | Similar Products Used: | ust set up with sealant and bontrager sealant with stans rim strips/coventional wheels | | Bike Setup: | 2005 ibex hard tail with mavic rims and xt hubs.2001 fuel 90 with ust crossland wheels, stans sealant, 2005 santacruz heckler being built up with stans conversion. | | Bottom Line: | I have compared the performance of stans tubeless system to a U.S.T. set up for over two years and find that they are both good, I use stans sealant on my ust wheels, there can be substantial weight savings if a lighter tire/wheel is used with stans, it is so cool to use an light race tire with stans conversion on my hard tail, it climbs so fast! the only drawback with stans is that it takes a bit of research to find a tire that does not have a weak bead that could blow off the rim this is really not to much of an issue anyway if you do not inflate over 40 psi, who would want to? the traction is so much better with lower pressures and the wheels are not deflecting because a rock hard tire bouncing off everything.The issue of the sealant ruining tires has not been an issue with me, I put 2500 miles on a set of hutchinson pythons with no issues and so far no failures with the hutchinson spiders with about 1000 miles, I think the tire manufacturers are just trying to push their own sealants. With UST system it is much more difficult to mount tire however I do find they are easier to inflate and the tires are bullet proof and you could inflate over 40 psi if need be, the only ust wheels I can afford are the Mavic crosslands which have held up very well, their other wheels cost way too much for me, I have decided to go with Stans for my new Heckler I am building up and using a really beefy non ust tire.I would NEVER go back to tubes, thorn and pinch flats are a non-issue. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
trail548 trail548
a Cross Country Rider
from l.a.
Date Reviewed: February 13, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | rocky peak | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$80.00 | | Purchased At: | lbs | | Strengths: | usage of low tire pressure, no tubes , more comfort ,
better traction, will seal if loss of air.
| | Weaknesses: | for the time i have been using it , so far , that said
i wish i could use my favortie tire fire xc pro 2.1
on website it is not recommended for use with kit. | | Similar Products Used: | used tubes | | Bike Setup: | giant vt three set up for cross country , manitou fork
avid juicy fives , mavic rims with kenda kozmik lite 2.0
xt crank xt front deraillure, xtr rear derailure thompson masterpiece seat post with selle italia 135 gram saddle
bontrager carbon handlebar | | Bottom Line: | good product , was not sure if i wanted to use this product
barring some issues with tire saftey so far so good
racers stand by this product they trust stans product and
use it with great results and that is enough convincing
for me to use it. long term usage will tell me how this
product performs | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew
a
from Tucson, AZ
Date Reviewed: February 5, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Light almost no flats | | Weaknesses: | VOIDS WARRANTY OF MOST TIRES | | Similar Products Used: | Slime? | | Bike Setup: | Titust Motolite | | Bottom Line: | The stuff works great and it is relativly easy to convert you rims.
Be warned though that it contains some pretty strong chemicals that can damage your tires(Causes blisters in side walls), something Stan's does not say nor MBA who is constantly pushing the stuff. Check the KENDA web site for a disclaimer regarding Stan's, most other tire manufacters feel the same way. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
dave lynch
a Cross Country Rider
from blue mts australia
Date Reviewed: February 1, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | oaks fire trail | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Strengths: | light works well [if used with UST tyre] | | Weaknesses: | tyre can roll off rim has happen to me about 8 times[not ust]tyre loss a bit of air and next time[ 5 mins latter] the same thing happens.on a UST tyre they are ok. maybe ok if you are light [i am 200lbs] on my son bike it works ok [he is about 80lbs] | | Bottom Line: | ok if light.or used with UST tyres but not with tube tyres | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Teo Guerrero
a Cross Country Rider
from Pacoima
Date Reviewed: January 26, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | Virgin River Rim, UT | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$55.00 | | Purchased At: | Pricepoint | | Strengths: | No pinch flats, Can run lower preasure | | Weaknesses: | Some tires are more difficult to seal, but I guess that is expected with super light tires. | | Similar Products Used: | UST | | Bike Setup: | Scale 30 frame, XTR drive train and disc brakes, 240s hubs on 717’s, Rock Shox SID WC, Egg Beater Ti’s and various other carbon parts from USE, Easton, Woodman. | | Bottom Line: | Stan’s works great. I had no problems mounting a new set of Python Lite tires on 717 rims. They mounted and held air perfectly the first time. A couple of weeks later I decided to switch tires to something lighter and mounted a set a Continental Twister Supersonics. These are super light. Mine average 355 grams each. Both the front and rear were easy to mount, but interestingly the rear kept loosing air while the front held air perfectly. The rear had many small leaks along the sidewall that Stan’s was not able to seal. This was probably because these tires have a thinner casing given that they are super light. I tried to seal the holes by shaking the wheel as recommended and laying it on it’s side and when I though it was sealed I put the wheel on the bike and it lost air again.
I finally decided to switch the tires from back to front and vise versa. I would use a tube in the front wheel and use Stan’s in the rear. I remounted the tires and decided to try Stan’s one more time this time with the tire that would not hold air in the front. I did all the steps accept for this time a laid the inflated wheel on it’s side for about a week and a half and this time it worked. Both tires hold air perfectly now. As they say patience is a virtue. This system allows me to use 1.9 tires at 30 lbs giving me a supple ride with traction not possible at higher pressure. Great product.
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Submitted by
flow
a Cross Country Rider
from Vic, Australia
Date Reviewed: November 2, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | No more flats, better traction, lighter weight, less rolling resistance | | Weaknesses: | None if you can follow instructions | | Similar Products Used: | thorn proof tubes, slime, liners (none of these worked for me) | | Bike Setup: | Hutchinson Python Airlights (wire bead), Mavic X117 rims, 2005 Giant XTC 2 | | Bottom Line: | This set up has changed my life. I can now ride anywhere I like with the confidence of knowing I won't get a flat even though there were lots of prickles and thorns stuck in my tyres. I live in a horticultural area with large infestations of California puncture weed and 3 corner jacks.
I can attack corners and climbs harder too, due to a bigger tyre footprint created by running lower air pressures.
A presta to schrader adapter and a compressor make installation a breeze too. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jim
a Cross Country Rider
from Aspen, Colorado
Date Reviewed: October 27, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | Lighter wheels, better handling, far fewer flats | | Weaknesses: | PRICEY | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | Mavic 717's, Conti 2.1's, 180lb. rider, 35psi | | Bottom Line: | Every one look down the list and find "Coulson" from October 2004. I just read his review and wanted to say what an idiot he is. Neither of the tire brands he tried were recommended for use with the system. But he went ahead and tried them anyway, then had the brains to write a bad review. What a dumb ass!! Instructions are written for a reason. If more people followed them great products like Stans would get few bad reviews. It's like doubling the air pressure in a suspension for and complaining that the bike rides too stiff. Unbelieveable idiocy!!!!!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jon
a Downhiller
from West tx
Date Reviewed: October 11, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$65.00 | | Strengths: | never left me flat on the trail | | Weaknesses: | have to recharge every 3-5 months depending how dry your climate is. | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bottom Line: | Stans works awsome. Make sure you know have to read or atleast follow direction before you buy. I have has so many people tell me it does not work, and when I ask them how they installed it, every time they forget to shake the bottle or pour form while the bottle is upside down after shaking it. The directions are there for a reason!!!! I have built over 30 rim sets with STANS and never had a rim or tire that would not seal for me. I have sealed super thin XC to DH and the hardest the DH. Only 3 sets were UST and it works great in UST also. If you cant get your tire to seal, your either did not shake and pour correctly or did not install enough sealant, either way your doing some thing wrong. Sorry Kenda riders, Kenda is the only tire that is not able to handel STAN's. Kenda are good tires but I rather change to another tire so I could continue to use STAN's. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Gustav
a Cross Country Rider
from So cal
Date Reviewed: September 22, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | this item sucks:
you can do it yourself with DIY item | | Weaknesses: | Cost
They tryied to steal my money | | Bike Setup: | XT grouppo, Chris king headparts and hubs etc | | Bottom Line: | Beware if you purchase directly from notubes.com.
I found they,KG motors charged twice for one order when I checked my Visa receipt.
I mailed to Stan and he said he didn't think so.
Finally I got refunded but no apologize at all.
ARROGANT AS HELL!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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