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Submitted by
Tord Bern Hansen
a Cross Country Rider
from Oslo, Norway Date Reviewed: October 25, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$200.00 | | Purchased At: | http://www.gshok.net | | Strengths: | A HT with a G-Shok is: + cheaper than a ST + lighter than a ST + as good as a ST on smooth paths + less maintenance than a ST | | Weaknesses: | On a rough path with stones and roots a ST is better. But a G-Shok is much better than without. | | Similar Products Used: | RST | | Bike Setup: | Hard Rocx Helium OVREP | | Bottom Line: | If you have a hardtail and are considering buying a softtail - try a G-Shok before you make a decision. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bård Bråten
a Cross Country Rider
from Oslo Date Reviewed: August 12, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | www.gshok.net | | Strengths: | Everything. It is almost like riding a FS-bike with all the advantages of a HT-bike | | Weaknesses: | None | | Similar Products Used: | Cane Creek Thudbuster | | Bike Setup: | Hard Rocx Helium OVREP | | Bottom Line: | Finally ! Almost two years after my first G-shok broke I have been able to get hold of a new one. It is even better than I remembered. A lightweight HT-bike and a G-shok must be the ultimate setup for CC-riding. The Thudbuster is not even close to the G-shok in performance.
The G-shok is now sold by Mr. Brede Arntzen in Oslo and availible at the web-site www.gshok.net. He was kind enough to give me a new seatpost for free to compensate for years of suffering from bad customer support from the reasont dealer.
Spare parts and customer support is now well taken care of by Mr. Arntzen and for the first time you can now get hold of a G-shok via a reliable dealer.
"Løp og kjøp !"
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Submitted by
Jim Dietrick
a Cross Country Rider
from Novato Date Reviewed: May 22, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$219.00 | | Purchased At: | Aardvark Cycles | | Strengths: | Great suspension action. | | Weaknesses: | Support and maintenance. I have been trying to get a rebuild kit for over 4 months. It took me 6 weeks just to get to the point of placing an order. Two weeks later I inquired about my order - they said that they did not have the parts but it would ship soon. I waited for 4 weeks after they said it shipped -nothing. I inquired again, they told me my shipment was in Frankfurt, but they could not explain why. They said they would send another kit out express mail and I would have it in 3-5 days. 8 days later - nothing. I have sent emails inquiring (again) what is going on with my parts and have yet to hear a reply (it's only been two days however). The cost of the rebuild kit has also doubled since I bought one from their no defunct US affiliate two years ago. After reading reviews with similar experiences I decided I should re-post my experiences with the company. I cannot in good conscience tell anyone to buy this product based on my recent experience. It is a great product if you can maintain it, I have no evidence at this point that rebuild kits can be obtained reliably. I hope I can change this post in the near future. I will post again with the final outcome of this situation (i.e whether or not I ever get the parts). | | Similar Products Used: | Tamer Tricky Dick | | Bottom Line: | Great product - terrible customer support! Though I should mention that Thomas at Hals-Lauritzen has been very nice and appears to have tried to help me! However, trying to help and actually helping are two different things. The internet is one of the only recourses consumers have against business's who have poor practices, hence this post (which deserves to have been written a month ago). | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Alan Calvitti
a
from Cleveland OH USA Date Reviewed: January 22, 2002 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | direct | | Strengths: | Suspension is as good as soft tail frames. | | Weaknesses: | Heavy and hard to clean. I think weight could be reduced by drilling through the cage and that would also make it easier to reach the piston and spring. Of course that'd make it weaker and slightly less aerodynamic | | Bike Setup: | Specialized rockhopper comp A1. | | Bottom Line: | I mostly use my mtb as transportation on roads. Have not tested it extensively offroad. But from my experience the G-shock is well worth it. You get soft tail rear suspension without the bulk, complexity and expense of a soft-tail frame | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bård Bråten
a Cross Country Rider
from Oslo Date Reviewed: November 25, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Bottom Line: | Well, i am sorry that I have have to place a new review and tell that I am not so pleased with this product anymore.
The seatpost broke after just 3 months. Apparently this is a well known problem with the G-shock, but mr. Lauritzen is not very willing to replace it or give me the money back. Says he is broke... This sucks !
I bought a Cane Creek Thudbuster. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Geir Hansen
a
from Tønsberg, Norway Date Reviewed: November 5, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | Tested or demo'ed only | | Strengths: | My dreams come true... I agree with Bård.. Who needs a full suspension bike? | | Weaknesses: | Hav'nt found any yet. | | Bottom Line: | I got this g-shok as a demo from Hals-Lauritzen but I'm holding on to this one... It's to good to loose. It seems like they have started producing the g-shok again. Check it out... :) | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bård Bråten
a Cross Country Rider
from Oslo Date Reviewed: June 16, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | It's a dream on bumpy trails. Soaking up all the bumps just like that. Hwo needs a full suspension bike ? | | Weaknesses: | A bit heavy. | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | Hard Rocx Helium Hard tail. | | Bottom Line: | This product is superb. Gives you a lot of the advantages of a F-S bike by just switching the seatpost. Still, it's your old hard-tail the second you stand pedaling.
I bought it from Mr. Hals himself here in Oslo. Don't think spare parts should be any problem .... | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sebastien Le Bel
a Racer
from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Date Reviewed: February 11, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$200.00 | | Purchased At: | Hals... | | Strengths: | Bombproof construction and durability relatively simple maintencance
| | Weaknesses: | Lack of availability of parts for maintenance Too few spring rates available Weight | | Similar Products Used: | Ti Frame (see The Bottom Line) Moxey Pro | | Bike Setup: | litespeed Ocoee and a mish mash of components | | Bottom Line: | This is a follow up to my review from Nov. 97. I've been using this post for four seasons now. I still consider it as the best suspension post available.
One major problem with this product is the lack of parts for maintenance. Even so, they can be easily 'made' from parts available at your local specialty hardware store. Specifically, I had could not easily find the nylon bushings to fit the pivot points. I found bushings of the correct thinckness, and used a reamer to make a hole to fit around the pivot points. The process was tedious but worhtwhile. This gave the seatpost a useable life of a year to year and a half (until there was significant play).
There was another problem with this product, but it was very easiy to fix. My post developped play in the joints between the actual post and pivot assembly. I cleaned out the original 'glue', then added a ton of red LockTite. This fix has endured three years so far.
The year after I got the post I decided to try to reduce it's weight in any way possible. I drilled out significant portions of the pivot assembly. Even so, the post has lasted three years of abuse. I don't recommend that anyone else try this. I mention this only to attest to this products durability.
I am sad to hear that distribution is now moving to Europe. As far as I am cocerned, it was a matter of poor marketing. This product should have made it big in North America, even given it's heafty weight. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nigel Woodland
a Weekend Warrior
from Los Gatos, CA Date Reviewed: February 5, 2001 | | Favorite Trail: | Kennedy Rd | | Duration Product Used: | Tested or demo'ed only | | Price Paid: |
$217.00 | | Purchased At: | online at www.gshok.com | | Weaknesses: | I wanted any potential purchasers (especially those in the US) of this product to be aware of my experience in dealing with this company.
I ordered a gshok in Nov 2000. After hearing nothing for a week I emailed them and was eventually told that they had difficulty with supplies and as soon as a post was available they would ship, and let me know. My VISA card was charged in Dec, no post had arrived. After a number of calls/emails I eventually received a reply in Jan stating that my seatpost had been shipped in Dec, and offering to reship. I had decided on the strength of this customer service to ask for a refund.
The company declined to credit my VISA card stating " We have closed the US operations and moved to Europe. We will be concentrating our efforts on the European bike market from now. We cannot credit your card as we have discontinued our US merchant account. "
On Jan 25th they offered to send me a check.....as of Feb 5th I am still waiting.
| | Bottom Line: | I was willing to purchase this product on the strength of mtbr reviews, despite the heavy price. I found the company very unresponsive, and I am still waiting for my money back. Not a good experience. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Michael
a Cross Country Rider
from Chicago Date Reviewed: September 7, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Plush and no annoying rebound. Works precisely as it should. | | Weaknesses: | Somewhat heavy. | | Similar Products Used: | Power Post Moab; U.S.E. XCR | | Bike Setup: | Stock Cannondale F700 | | Bottom Line: | This is a wonderful product. It does the job beautifully and the setup is easy and foolproof. Though the U.S.E. post I have on one bike works well, the G-Shok provides better protection while not effecting riding efficiency. Please note that the phone number on the web site is no longer accurate, so you should leave a piece of mail for Espen. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dan Mitchell
a Weekend Warrior
from Calgary, AB Date Reviewed: July 21, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Soaks up bumps, super sturdy, no bobbing, no weird forwards/backwards motion, no stiction. Super-plush. Very importantly -- works in the cold. | | Weaknesses: | None too light, none too cheap. | | Similar Products Used: | Tested a few of the telescoping ones in shops (coda, etc). | | Bike Setup: | '94 Specialized S-Works, bomber up front | | Bottom Line: | It makes an _amazing_ difference to the speed I can go over little bumps -- sure, it's not 8 inches of rear travel, but it lets me just hammer over the vast majority of non-technical terrain and not get kicked around all over the place; riding on bumpy trails/roads is a whole world different. I tried putting the old rigid seatpost I had before this on a month or so back just to see if I was imagining the improvement, but I wasn't -- it was no fun getting kicked around that much after I've got used to the comfort of the g-shok.
It's occasionally been weird to be cycling over rough terrain and have a weird vibrating sensation in my feet; I can't feel them in my arms, or my butt, so only my feet can tell they're there.
I'm sure a genuine softtail would do a better job of soaking bumps up, but then you get all the biopacing issues -- with any suspension seatpost you could theoretically get this if you sit down and have a really rough pedal stroke, but it's actually been a useful way for me to improve my spinning, because when my spin goes to pieces I can feel myself bobbing up and down as my weight moves. Standing up, though, obviously nothing happens; sitting down and spinning smoothly, no problems, the bumps just vanish.
The other critical thing about this seatpost as compared to, say, a Thudbuster or a Moxey is that it uses springs, not elastomers. That may not matter to a lot of people, but I cycled through last winter on this thing, and at -20 celsius, elastomers turn solid -- and cycling over bumpy rutted ice is a lot easier when you're not bouncing around all over the place. If you need a suspension seatpost that works in the cold, this is what you want.
Overall: I honestly can't imagine any way that something could work better than this does; other ones may well be as good, but I don't think they're any better. And the G-Shok sure looks cool..
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Submitted by
Jim Dietrick
a Cross Country Rider
from Novato, CA US Date Reviewed: June 12, 2000 | | Favorite Trail: | Pollock Benches Fruita, CO | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Extremely good suspension! Absorbs bumps big and small. Easily adjustable, easy to rebuild. Looks cool! | | Weaknesses: | No dampening, but still waaahh! | | Similar Products Used: | Tamer Carbon Susp. | | Bike Setup: | Salsa Ala Carte Frame (Petaluma not MN), Hugi fnt on a Rhino lite, C. King back on a Mavic 521. White cranks/bottom. XTR front rear der., brakes, shifters/levers, Cassette. Real Rings, C. King headset, salsa stem, Look pedals (the best!), Velociraptors, WTB saddle. | | Bottom Line: | Superb product! All the advantages of a hardtail with the bumps smoothed out. Don't get me wrong, this doesn't turn a HT into DH bike, but it absorbs some pretty big hits, and allows you to hammer through rough sections. I can't say enough good things about it. I just rebuilt mine and as long as I have replacement pins (which reminds me I think I'll order a couple extra sets ($12.00 ttl) to have on hand) I believe this seatpost will outlast me. It is rock solid and has a very nice machined look to it! Lot's of looks and questions on the trail. Just go get one you won't regret it! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Wrench
a Weekend Warrior
from Santa Barbara, CA Date Reviewed: November 19, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Quality construction, excellent damping action. I received good, prompt service from Hals-Lauritzen (I noticed that some of the reviewers have had problems in the past). | | Weaknesses: | I'd like to see them offer a stiffer spring. Otherwise, no weaknesses. | | Similar Products Used: | Rock Shox, USE | | Bike Setup: | Cannondale Caad 4, Truvativ Stylo, SRAM ESP brakes, and shifters, Cane Creek WAMs | | Bottom Line: | Once you've installed and configured the G-Shok correctly, it performs like a dream. I'm 6' 5, 240 Lbs, and I have some lower back problems that kept me off my mountain bike. I researched the suspension seatposts that are currently available, and G-Shok looked to be the best design. On a ride, the G-Shok just floats...you don't even notice the action. You do notice that it's working, because your ass and back hurt a lot less after a jarring ride. 5 fiery opossums! | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Larry
a Cross-Country Rider
from Palo Alto, CA Date Reviewed: September 17, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | many | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Extremely active and plush for small to medium bumps. | | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | Thudbuster Quadrapivot, several of the new telescoping models. | | Bike Setup: | Miyata Ridge Runner rigid bike | | Bottom Line: | After nearly two years of use commuting on this seatpost, I wanted to add an update to my original post of Oct. 1997, see below. I still find this unit the best in ironing out small to medium bumps, without bouncing you off the saddle like the Quadripivot. My full susp. Intense UZZI SL is better suited for the large hits. Action is still velvety smooth and quiet, though I'm getting just a barely perceptible bit of play in the bushings now, though nothing like the visible side to side wobble my Thudbuster has. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ron
a Cross-Country Rider
from Chicago Date Reviewed: April 13, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Very plush with 2.5 of travel. I've been riding faster and more aggressive from the moment it was installed. I can also ride twice the distance as on a rigid post without developing a sore back. | | Weaknesses: | A bit heavier than the competition. | | Similar Products Used: | I haven't had the opportunity to ride any other suspension posts. | | Bike Setup: | Specialized StumpJumper M2 frame with Marzocchi Atom Bomber Z2 front suspension. | | Bottom Line: | The best upgrade from a rigid post you can make. It allows faster and more aggressive riding while also greatly improving comfort. Worth every bit of the few extra ounces. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Citybiker Nikolas
a Weekend Warrior
from Tampere, Finland Date Reviewed: March 25, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: | less than 1 month | | Strengths: | This works, really. It also looks like an amazingly reliable piece. The Hals-Lauritzen G-Shok is as important as the front shock. No side play. Very plush and active. It does not rob my power when I'm pedaling. | | Weaknesses: | It is a bit heavy, compared to other suspension seatposts, but not so much that I would really care about it. I also suffered about the very long delivery time. But as I have been told, this problem is momentary only, due to company's moving production from Norway to USA. | | Similar Products Used: | I can compare my G-Shok only to the Wheeler FS bike that was stolen from me. It was a good boing-boing-bike with a very active rear shock and a Marzocchi front shock.I haven't tried any other suspension seatpost. I could try, but would not buy for a try. Anyway a hardtail with a rigid seatpost is very different to a bike with a G-Shok. | | Bike Setup: | Very light (about 1.3kg) Dynamics aluminium frame, Marzocchi Z-2 fork, Terry Men's Liberator saddle, Redline pedals, Nokian tyres and so on. | | Bottom Line: | Would you believe that a lightweight hardtail could feel like a full suspension bike, except that you still get the bumps to your feet? After I installed the G-Shok into my bike, I was amazed how much I increased my average speed. That was because I did not have to concentrate on the bumps anymore, but simply rode over them. If you are going to build a bike same way, then choose first a good lightweight and stiff frame and don't increase the unsuspended mass of your bike's rear more than you have to. Then add a good saddle, front shock, etc... If I forget the delivery time that really made me angry, I can easily give this product five chilis. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Matt Weis
a Cross-Country Rider
from San Francisco, CA Date Reviewed: March 19, 1999 | | Favorite Trail: | B-17 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | The G-shok is supple, active, damp, and doesn't alter my fore and aft positioning. I've ridden the G-Shok for over a year and not had a single matainence problem with it to date. The Black color is stealthly. | | Weaknesses: | Heft and some noise from time to time due to the elastomer bushings. SOmetimes the monkey-motion gets irritating with all types of sus, but you can't have everything. | | Similar Products Used: | I mail-ordered + rode the Giani LP before ordering the G-Shok. Probably the worst product I've ever used. The post didn't move at all once installed because of seat clamp binding problems. What kind of designer builds a suspension seatpost that binds under normal seat clamp pressure? Giani has some serious wall thickness problems to work out. I've also put in countless miles on the Softride beam product (earlier generation that lacked damping) great On-road/poor application off-road. The beam acted, as you can imagine, like a giant lever under big hits. Additionally I road a Pro-Flex for a few years. After acquiring the damping version of the elastomer stack, I really began to enjoy the performance. FullSus is a totally different experence, so comparing this post to a sus frame is a moot point. With any sus post you still feel ALL of the vibration through your pedals. Vibration is eliminated with full sus frame. | | Bike Setup: | lightweight, standard geom, steel race frame - White Bros. 3.5 fork | | Bottom Line: | Solid product. I just need to get a Ti WTB frame to off-set the weight | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Larry
a
from Palo Alto Date Reviewed: October 13, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have had this post for 1 year now and am still extremely satisfied with it. There is no stiction and it is very compliant and plush, even over the small stuff. Lack of damping has been a plus. Other company's damped units are less compliant over the little stuff. It does NOT spring you out of the saddle like the Thudbuster Quad I have used for a year also. Their customer service is excellent. I had a problem with the exposed portion of the post (part out of the seattube) being too tall for my bike (6 3/8) but the company switched it for me at no charge for the newer model which is 7/8 shorter. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jeff Langton
a racer
from Maine Date Reviewed: September 17, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I've only had the G-Shok for 3 weeks, but I have to totally disagree with Crismar12's review. When I set up the shok correctly there is no excess rebound action, just super smooth absorption of the bumps, unlike anything I've ever ridden. I rode a Powerpost Moab for a while and did not like it at all. The damping made it feel harsh over the bumps and the design of the post caused it to move straight backwards, increasing the saddle to handlebar distance dramatically every time I hit a bump. In addition, the oil damper on the Powerpost made an irritating hissing sound every time the shock compressed. My G-Shok, on the other hand moves straight up and down, so it does not have the rowing machine feeling of the Powerpost. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Crismar12
a weekend warrior
from usa Date Reviewed: September 12, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have been riding the G-shok for about three months now, and I am vey impressed by its general perfomance. However, it needs rebound damping!!! Sometimes the post's rebound feels like it's a rocket launching me into the air, off the saddle, and out of control. G-shok men your product is a great post, but I have to switch to the Powerpost Moab which is similar to the G-Shok with one difference. The Moab has reboung damping. Please design the 1999 model G-shok with rebound damping. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ron
a weekend warrior
from Costa Mesa (Orange County), CA Date Reviewed: August 4, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I received the G-Shok a while ago and I can whole-heartedly recommend this suspension post as an option (and MUCH cheaper) to a full suspension bike. I currently have the medium spring installed, and with me at 6'1 and 210# the stiff spring is recommended. However while waiting for the stiff spring, the medium spring still provides me with a plush ride in that I havn't even bottomed the post yet. Of course, for large crevices or logs and the like, I still get off the seat as anyone should. The unit is solidly built with no side-to-side play that the Moxey or the Thudbuster posts have. Also there is no stiction as with the standard coil spring suspension posts. This is a definate go ahead and get one! And it's also the best hardtail upgrade one could do for their bike - on a scale of 1 to 10 it gets a 10+ | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rich
a cross-country rider
from Bay Area, CA Date Reviewed: July 27, 1998 | | Bottom Line: | I decided to purchase a gshok while training for a 100 mile epic. I had done a few long rides (over 70 miles) without rear-suspension or a suspension post and the effects on the sit bones and pressure points is noticeable. With the 30-day money back guarantee I figured I'd risk it.The next weekend I rode a tough 52 mile epic with over 7700 ft of climbing. What can I say, the gshok did the job and I felt no ill effects at all. The action does take some getting used to, but the effort is well worth it. Of course, there is a weight penalty (about 12 oz.) but it's a small price to pay for extended comfort.This past weekend I raced with the seatpost for the first time. The course had loads of washboard and damage from horse use. Dang! I was motoring over stuff that was forcing most of the other racers to stand.In a word (or two): I'm sold. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andrew Lawson
a racer
from Arizona Date Reviewed: May 5, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I had been looking for a suspension seatpost for my Klein hardtail when I read the May issue of Mountain Biker Magazine, where they named the G-Shok the best suspension post on the market, and decided to try it. It works really well, most bumps seem to disappear. I tried a friend's telescoping post for comparison and must say that I was not able to tell that the telescoping post had any suspension action at all, the G-Shok is sooo much plusher. I could not make the link on this page work, but found info about it on www.g-shok.com I had been planning to trade in my hardtail for a fullsuspension frame, due to a bad back, but have totally changed my mind after riding this post. In fact, it eats small to medium bumps better than any FS bike I've ever tried. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Warren
a weekend warrior
from Allen, TX Date Reviewed: April 22, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I've had this seatpost for 6 months and can't say enough good things about it. You don't even feel small to medium bumps and roots and it significantly mutes the large ones. I get much more of a pounding through my front shocks than through my seat. I still stand up when I get to crators and ledges, but I spend most of my time in the saddle. I can ride further and faster than ever. | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sebastien Le Bel
a racer
from Nepean, Canada Date Reviewed: November 29, 1997 | | Bottom Line: |
I bought one of these seatposts last year. This product is AMAZING!Last year, I wanted to get better performance from my bike. The best option, in my opinion, was to get rear suspension. I looked at many suspension seatpost reviews, and I found that the best were given to the G-SHOK. I conacted the inventor. He graciously answered all my questions. I was thoroughly impressed with the mechanics of the post and wondered why no one had thought of this design before. Anyway, to make a long story short, I bought the post at the beginning of the 97 racing season. It was a little strange at first as it was so active. I quickly got accustomed to it and remained in the saddle where I'd usually stand up. What really astounded me is that I experienced almost no back pain for the first few races of the season. The perfomance only got better through the season. I was astounded with the speed that I could MASH through rooted and ruttled single track. My last race of the season, the Quebec Cup finals at Mt. Tremblant, was the most difficult two and a half hours of my life. But, due to the seatpost, I didn't experience any back pain and felt I was in better control of my bike than I had ever been. I will NEVER go back to a rigid seatpost agian. The weight penalty of the post is TOTALLY worth it. And the construction of the post bombproof. I feel that the comfort provided by the G-SHOK allowed me to do better in my races than I could have done without it. I'm looking forward to upgrading at the end of next season to the elite level. The move is sure to be greatly facilitated by my secret weapon. I recommend the post to anyone that wants better performance or just added comfort. The suspension is so active, it will not dissapoint. This IS the next big thing in mountainbiking. Catch the wave! | Overall Rating: |
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