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Submitted by
Dan Sloan
a Weekend Warrior
from Nashua, NH USA
Date Reviewed: October 29, 2000 | | Favoriate Trail: | suicide hill | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$2200.00 | | Purchased At: | this web site , used | | Strengths: | fast, tight & light | | Weaknesses: | none so far | | Similar Products Used: | Joshua, Specialized | | Bike Setup: | stock with WTB sst.98 seat, Race face cranks and frog pedals | | Bottom Line: | This bike is the balls! I bought it used and it allready had the cranks so I can't vouch for the originals but everythings else is great. The tires grab and hold the slimy granite here in New England and they arent too bad on the street either, once the suspension is set up right you allmost never have to touch it ( I'm 220lbs and in 3 months I've never had to add air). I did put my old seat on, but my son uses the original on his bike and he likes it. The only problem I can find is the decals are starting to peel here and there but I bought the bike to ride not to read.
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Submitted by
t basa
a Cross Country Rider
from orange county, ca
Date Reviewed: May 17, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | weight, lateral rigidity, climbing ability, genesis geometry are just a few of this sweet ride | | Weaknesses: | none to date | | Similar Products Used: | intense tracer, spec. s-works fsr xc, schwinn rocket 88 stg. 1 and gt xcr 1000 | | Bike Setup: | xl sugar 1 with sid sl, full xtr group with rolf propel wheelset, chris king headset, thompson post, easton monkey lite riser bars and shimano 858 pedals | | Bottom Line: | if your looking for a big hit bike look elsewhere. this bike has just enough suspension to take the edge off of bumps and ruts. it accelerates like a hard tail yet still has the added comfort of a rear suspended bike. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
corbett mortensen
a Racer
from omaha
Date Reviewed: April 3, 2000 | | Favoriate Trail: | Platte River | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | Lightweight, components, climber | | Weaknesses: | Rear hub problem | | Similar Products Used: | Trek 9800, Trek Y50, Trek 8900, | | Bike Setup: | Stock | | Bottom Line: | I had a Trek Y50 and was looking for a new bike. I wanted light. I'd read about the Sugar and happened to catch the Fisher rep in town on a demo day. As soon as I demoed it, I ordered one.
It's very light. Mine is 23.5lbs on the nose, (I pulled the Time pedals because I had some new Ritcheys which are quite a bit lighter and I had just got the cleats set up right). I'll probably try the Times later.
The bottom line is that it really accelerates very close to a hardtail, (I've been riding my hardtail while I waited for it to show up). It climbs a bit better than a hardtail. The only bob I can see is about 1mm and that's when I'm hammering.
The suspension is just right for me. I can tell that it doesn't have as much travel as my Y, but it seems to take the edge off of the bumps and keep the wheel on the ground about 95% of the Y bike, (which is very plush).
The rear hub on mine has some side to side slop. The bike shop tried to lock tite the hub bearings, but it didn't fix it so they're ordering a new rear wheel. Other than that, I'm really glad that I bought it. I think that it might be the best full suspension racer available this year. It was just what I was looking for...light, fast and comfy.
I'm giving it 5 chilis because supposedly I have a new wheel on the way. I've only had it about 3 months, so we'll see how it holds up.
For you MP3 fans, you can hear the song I wrote about it on rollingstone.com under the artist named Finn. The song is called Sugar, appropriately enough. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mr. Sugar
a Racer
from socal
Date Reviewed: March 11, 2000 | | Favoriate Trail: | East Govt. Trail, CO | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | light
stiff
efficient
gen geo | | Weaknesses: | mud clearance | | Bike Setup: | team edition | | Bottom Line: | My sugar 1 is the team edition, there are a few small upgrades making it 1/4 pound lighter than the production sugar 1. Weighed on an accurate scale, it measured 23.75 pounds (medium). Despite it's low weight, it's incredibly stiff, surprisingly stiffer than my buddy's c-dale. They could save a lot more weight by anodizing and laser etching the frame, instead of using the most paint and thick stickers on a single bike in the industry. They could have also made the chain stays out of carbon to save about 80 grams, and used some Ti hardware, but I'm quite happy with a 5.1 pound frame with SID adjust shock. The welds are very even and thick, and the overall quality is top notch. The SID adjust rear shock and SID SL fork are extremely adjustable, and stiction free. The rear suspension is absolutely bob free no matter how much power I put into it, even at low air pressures. It feels like there is a lot more travel than there actually is, and is incredibly smooth, without any bottoming out. Traction is available in abundance. The fork feels almost like a coil over, except that it packs up fast under repetitive small bumps. Some people aren't fans of genesis geometry, but I love it under most circumstances. It handles drop offs better than any bike I've ever tried, and is virtually mistake proof while climbing. I never have to worry about where my weight is. It handles very, very quickly in tight singletrack. It's only downfall is in long sweeping turns, and especially berms, I just don't feel very confident while doing them, but that could be the tires. The wheels are the lightest I've ever ridden and accelerate like a bat out of hell, I've only had to do one minor truing so far, which is common for any new rim. The tires hook up great on rocks, hard pack dirt, mud, and pavement, but they have issues with sand, but then again, most tires do. The cranks look great and are almost as stiff as XTR's, and the shimano drivetrain shifts crisply every time. I am going to upgrade to a 9.0 SL setup, but strictly as a weight saving switch. Time pedals are simply the best in the mud, and provide easy in/out, but I may replace them too after the rain stops to save over 1/4 pound. The SD mag brakes are very powerful, more powerful than an XTR w/ brake booster, but the avids have ceramic pads on ceramic rims. The bontrager stem, bars, grips, and seat post work very well, and the saddle is incredibly comfy. I could save quite a bit of weight by switching to a flite ti, but it's just too comfy with the gel insert. My only gripe with the bike is it's lack of mud clearance. It doesn't rain much in socal, but it does happen every once in a while. The swingarm almost kisses the rear tire, and the knobs aren't even that big. For a dry weather flyer, this is the best xc fully available. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Keith
a Cross Country Rider
from San Diego CA
Date Reviewed: February 16, 2000 | | Favoriate Trail: | anderson truck trail | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Frame, over all speed, smoothness | | Weaknesses: | maybe a hard tail (might) be faster on an out of the saddle sprint. but not on a full race, or ride. Im not even sure about the sprint. | | Similar Products Used: | riddlers revenge- magic mountain california | | Bike Setup: | stock | | Bottom Line: | Hands down the best bike I have ever ridden. So smooth its almost wierd. Climbs like Spyder Man on crack. feels like more travel than it is, but no pedel bobbing. I never thought I would be racing on a fs- bike. looking forward to the race season. This is an awsome bike that doesnt even flinch when Im going as hard as I can. thats good considering Im 6'6"- 230lbs. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dave
a Cross-Country Rider
from Dunwoody,GA
Date Reviewed: December 12, 1999 | | Favoriate Trail: |
Chicopee Woods, Oakwood, GA | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Suspension
Carving
Light
Smooth | | Weaknesses: |
NONE found yet | | Similar Products Used: |
Fisher Hardtail | | Bike Setup: |
Stock set up with White Ind. Ti Riser Bar, and Marzocchi Z1 X-Fly front susp. | | Bottom Line: | Only rode it 3 times so far. Coming off a hardtail i'm in mtn biker heaven. Rides like old bike, same Genesis Geometry, with Cadillac suspension. I'm 6'4 240, Sid on front seemed too flimsy. New Era in Mtn Biking. WAY TO GO GARY!!!!
This on could keep me excited for years to come!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rocky Church
a Cross-Country Rider
from Boise, Idaho
Date Reviewed: November 8, 1999 | | Favoriate Trail: |
Foothills | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Rider position
Suspension action
Point and shoot
Light | | Weaknesses: |
None yet | | Similar Products Used: |
Klein Mantra Pro
Specialized FSR XC
Schwinn Homegrown FS XTR
Cannondale Raven
Pro-Flex 857 | | Bike Setup: |
Cane Creek AD-5 195 psi
Spinergy Spox Wheelset
XTR Comp SRAM shifters
Manitou SX Carbon
Bontrager ST2 front Jones Rear | | Bottom Line: | Just put this bike together after riding a demo and rode all weekend.For a larger rider this geometry really works well.I am 6.0' 190 lbs and this is the first bike I have had in 10 years that my riding position is almost completly neutral. It climbs with no noticable suspension movement but still seems to get ahold of the tough stuff and get right up it with the rest.When I turn downhill through the technical, rocks, singletrack and deep sand pockets this bike is a rocket.5 for now would like 4.5 just because it is to new to sell quality yet | | Overall Rating: |
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