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Weyless
67 Freeride (frame)
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3.95/5
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$ 695.00
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Description:Example Size: 16"
Color: Red/Black
Top tube length: 22.5"
Chain stay length: 17"
BB height: 14" - 15.5" (varies with fork)
Head tube length: 120mm
Seatpost size: 27.2mm
Rear shock: RockShox Pro Deluxe
Rear travel: 6"/7", adj
Frt der size: 1 1/4
Headset size: 1 1/8
Rear cable hanger: No
Replaceable dropout: Yes
BB shell width: 68mm
Front Der. Pull: Top
Head Tube Angle (degrees): 66º - 69º (varies with fork choice)
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Submitted by
Scott
a
from Alaska
Date Reviewed: April 3, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Bottom Line: | Still have the bike and it is performing well. Now has a 7" travel Jr. T and the rear is in the 7" position with a 450lb Ti spring. The stock spring that came on the Rock Shox shock was only 235 lbs. Way, way too soft for my 195lb weight.
Funny that my frame outlasted Supergo which is no longer in business. Next upgrade will be hydraulic disc brakes and a Fox rear shock. Despite all the bad reviews I ever read about the Rock Shox, it still works. Not going to fix that until it is broke. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Pete
a Cross Country Rider
from Bend, OR, USA
Date Reviewed: March 4, 2008 | | Favoriate Trail: | Cascade Mountains | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$1000.00 | | Purchased At: | Supergo | | Strengths: | Easton RAD tubing is superbly strong, paint has lasted due to Maguires car wax, bomb proof for my kind of riding. Loads of tire clearance!! | | Weaknesses: | Off center rear end and limited rear end changes!! | | Similar Products Used: | Yeti ASX and Giant VT One! | | Bike Setup: | Pike coil 05' 140mm with extra firm spring, chris king headset, avid 8" mech brakes, sram X9 drivetrain, thomson front and rear, hope hubs on single track rims, kenda nevegal 2.4 tires, wtb saddle, (upgraded to 2007 DHX Air 5.0) | | Bottom Line: | Original kit is fine for someone just getting into the experience of full suspension gravity riding but the components were too...........blah! After changing all the kit to the Pike and the DHX air shock this bike dropped down to 35lbs from the original 42lbs. Wow!! As a trail/FR set up this bike would rock with a Marzocchi 66SL ATA 140/180 air fork and some avid hydro's. For the money this bike is worth it but unfortunately too small for my huge 225lb 6ft 6" frame. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Trevor
a
from Bend Oregon U.S.
Date Reviewed: January 27, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Slolam Play loop | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$400.00 | | Strengths: | hmm let me check................ well i guess it's cheap both types. uhh yeah I can't think of any | | Weaknesses: | Oh where to start well.Sing arm moves over every time i ride.(I have to move it back with a hammer. i titen it but it moves right back after a session.)that paint rubs off easily. lesser known brand.Cable guides are weird you have to use clips that are lost easy. | | Bike Setup: | bomber 888 200mm | | Bottom Line: | Well DO NOT GET THIS BIKE. I have had for about 3 years.It is not a good buy. the swingarm problem has been going since mabey the month after i got it. This bike gives me problems every time i ride. all it is is a heavy pointless pig. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Z
a Racer
from Black Hills, SD
Date Reviewed: May 20, 2006 | | Favoriate Trail: | Skyline | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$350.00 | | Purchased At: | Ebay | | Strengths: | Easton Tubing. Strong frame. Great tire clearance. Great rear shock...Manitou Swinger 6 way is a very efficient pedal platform and very adjustable. Adjustable travel between 6-7". Very strong replaceable dropouts. Geometry is good. High bottom bracket for clearance. Nice paint job and overall looks. | | Weaknesses: | Lesser known name brand. High bottom bracket for climbing balance and downhill handling. Paint chips easily | | Similar Products Used: | My XC/All MTB is a Marin Attack trail. Frame is very similar to a SC Bullit | | Bike Setup: | Custom build-up: Boxxer Ride 5-7" Fork. Sram shifters and derailleurs. Avid Mech Brakes w/ 8"/7" rotors. Truvativ Hozfeller cranks. Manitou Swinger 6-way rear shock. Sun Single Track rims w/ IRC Trailbear 2.5"s | | Bottom Line: | I am very happy with this bike: Climbs well for a 38+lb lb bike. I climb all the trails I descend! The Manitou Swinger 6-way is a great rear shock...very djustable...the pedal platform works like a dream...You just have to know how to adjust it to avoid the hard rebound I have read about in previous reviews Takes a licking and keeps ticking...I weigh 200lbs and it's taken all the 4-8' hucks I've had the balls to drop without problem or bottoming out. An under-rated high quality freeride/DH machine! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Scott
a Downhiller
from Alaska
Date Reviewed: August 3, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Bottom Line: | I've had my bike for more than a year now and it has been great. No complaints. I'm happy with my purchase and have not had any problems with the frame and don't expect to. I ride it everywhere from trails to dirt jumping parks to the bike paths. I'm not sure where people are coming up with it being flexy in the swingarm. I have not noticed anything, in fact this bike is way more solid feeling then my old '98 FSR.
Originally I did not care for the paint job but what's funny, it has now grown on me and I dig the retro 80's look. There definitly arn't any other bikes that look simliar.
I'm dissapointed to see that Supergo no longer carries this model. The way mine is built it is pretty light for having 6"-7" of travel and you still can't buy a frame with similar build quality (Easton RAD) and travel for such a good price. I'm glad I have mine!
In a year or two I think I'm going to go with a 7" travel front fork and a stable platform shock once the prices come down. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chuck
a Cross Country Rider
from Titusville
Date Reviewed: June 26, 2004 | | Favoriate Trail: | Santos/ Tsali | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$595.00 | | Purchased At: | Supergo | | Strengths: | Many-design&price | | Weaknesses: | some rear flex. | | Similar Products Used: | N/A | | Bike Setup: | XT-PSYLO xc | | Bottom Line: | It`s been 13 months now and 3700 miles(I`m not kidding)around 2800 of that is off-rode and more than 1000 of that was in the mountians. This is a follow-up to my 6 month review and while it is true I had a swing arm weld begin to let go and required a weld to melt it back together. Since that repair I have ridden almost 2000 hard miles and am completely blown away by this bike. I am 220lbs. and have been braking lots of toys through the years. This bike is as good as you build it! If you put the good stuff on it, you will have a bike that truly represents itself against bikes costing 2 to 3 times as much cash! The newer model XP has addressed a couple of small flaws in this bikes design and with the 5th element air shock included at $595... You can not go wrong! As mike said in the earlier review, I should keep my review to the bike and not the company who sells it. In summary, I would definately go this way again and when I finally retire this piece i will think of it with a big smile! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike
a Downhiller
from Providence, RI
Date Reviewed: April 30, 2004 | | Favoriate Trail: | Anywhere... | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$600.00 | | Purchased At: | Supergo | | Strengths: | Looks good, cool black/red paint. beefy design, STRONG. Stays nice, you can beat this thing to the point of retardation and it rides away plush. | | Weaknesses: | Supergo, just like all of these posts.. whatever, 3-5 days turns to like 2 weeks... thats it. | | Similar Products Used: | SantaCruz Bullit
| | Bike Setup: | Marzocchi 2002 Z1 FR,Avid Mech discs, Sun Single Track rims w XT hubs, Titec El Norte saddle, XT Levers/Shift, LX crankset(light, strong, cheaper than XT.. im poor, this bike costs more than my saturn) XT rear/LX front der. WTB Wierwolf or MutanoRaptor 2.24's depending on where im riding. | | Bottom Line: | For the price this frame is ill. Even if this frame was 900 or a grand it would be ill. 6 months ago, I put a large dent about 6" above the bottom bracket from a downed log i didnt clear while trying to bunny hop it. (i have a video of me flying into mud from the whole disaster lol.) ive since beat the frame for 6 more months and there is no sign of decreasing structural integrity. This frame handles and climbs just like my hardtail with minimal bobbing. It is fast, Ive averaged 19 mph on a 40 mile bike path with it. Ive outclimbed roadbikers on paved hills with it.. its just a good frame and an all around good bike, it loves Urban assault... (if only there were no police) and most of all, it handles the drops, im a little new to freeriding, the largest drop ive ever done was around 6 feet. Im 6'2 210 and at 6', there was no bottoming out(6" rear travel). Since this frame has nothing to do with supergo's customer service, im not gonna take points away from the frame. I notice that lots of folks take chilis off because of supergos notorious customer service and that is cool, but, im rating just the frame. | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
andrew
a Downhiller
from middletown
Date Reviewed: March 31, 2004 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$595.00 | | Strengths: | price, travel, frame strength, price again | | Weaknesses: | none yet! | | Bike Setup: | manitou black elite 100/120, sun mammoth rims on xt hubs, avid mech brakes, rf ns cranks, etc | | Bottom Line: | well i reached the 1 year mark on my ride. I have no complaints about it so far. i still cant believe i got a deal like this. it performs as well as frames costing 1000+ for half the price. the attention to detail is amazing. with my frame, i recieved a spare derailleur hanger, touch up paint, and about 10 more of the cable holder thingies than i needed. The der. hanger on the bike was slightly bent from shipping, so i called, and they sent me 2 more free of charge. my only problem with it it on the chainstay, there is some funky cable routing. if they put those bosses that are the farthest back just a hair forwards, i wouldnt have to tape the last part of the housing. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
CHUCK MASSEY
a Cross Country Rider
from TITUSVILLE FL.
Date Reviewed: January 23, 2004 | | Favoriate Trail: | SANTOS | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$595.00 | | Purchased At: | SUPERGO | | Strengths: | PRICE,DOWNHILL ABILITY,QUICK HANDLING.THIS FRAME/BIKE IS A GREAT ALTERNATIVE TO SPENDING WAY MORE MONEY FOR OTHER FREERIDE BIKES | | Weaknesses: | SOME REAR FLEX SOME CREAKING AND I CRACKED THE SWINGARM AFTER 6 MONTHS OF HARD USE!APPX.2000 MILES. YEAH I RIDE ALOT
AND I AM A FRAME BREAKER FROM WAY BACK | | Similar Products Used: | NONE | | Bike Setup: | MOSTLY XT AND I PREFER THE 6 IN. SETTING | | Bottom Line: | I WOULD PROBABLY BUY THIS FRAME AGAIN ITS FAST ITS CHEAP AND I LIKE THE WAY IT HANDLES.HOWEVER I FEEL THAT SUPERGO IS TOTALLY LAME! WHEN I CALLED THEM ABOUT THE SWINGARM THE DOOF ON THE PHONE TOLD ME TO CONTACT THE MANF.AHD THEY COULD HELP. I THEN HAD TO TELL HIM SUPERGO IS THE AGENT FOR WEYLESS...DUH!AFTER PUTTING ME ON HOLD FOR 5 MIN.HE THEN GIVES ME AN ADDRESS IN NC.AND SAYS SHIP IT THERE AND WE WILL SEE IF WE CAN HELP SINCE THEY HAVE HAD SOME PROBLEMS WITH THOSE SWINGARMS.SO I TOOK THE BIKE TO A LOCAL WELDER AND FOR 20 BUCKS IM STILL RIPPIN IT UP!2400 MILES AND COUNTING | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jared Moore
a Downhiller
from Greeley
Date Reviewed: October 8, 2003 | | Favoriate Trail: | Keystone DH runs | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$595.00 | | Purchased At: | Supergo | | Strengths: | looks cool in the picture. probably would look cool in real life too. | | Weaknesses: | product hasn't been delivered. | | Similar Products Used: | Cannondale F800
Gary Fisher Sugar 3+
| | Bottom Line: | I ordered this frame over a month ago. When i placed the order it said wait an extra 3-5 days. Then after that it said orders would start shipping out on a certain day. Then after that it said it was in stock. Then after that, the frame isn't even on the site anymore. I've email supergo numerous time and called many times. Everytime they tell me that it is on back stock and that they should have it soon.
Supergo is worthless. this is the last time i use them. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John B.
a
from Geneva, Ohio, U.S.A.
Date Reviewed: August 4, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$400.00 | | Purchased At: | A guy who said it was too much bike for him. | | Strengths: | Strong frame, low price, high performance, low weight,(frame alone around 7-8lbs.) 6"-7" travel, plush and even though the Rock shox does not have Lock-out you can adjust it to where it is pretty much locked-out. | | Weaknesses: | Yeah it flexes a little,
But for the price and performance, I could care less! | | Similar Products Used: | Diamondback XSL race 02. | | Bike Setup: | On the 6" setting, Marzocchi Z5 fork, XTR sh/br pods, XT f/r derailleurs, XTR hubs laced to a Mavic F519 in the rear and a 217 up front, Club roost handle bar, PZ and company stem, Weyless forged seat post, Avid single digit 7 brakes, Continental tires, Bel-air S.D.G. seat and LX hollowteck crank+BB. | | Bottom Line: | I'm 16 and finding this frame made me really happy because I can't afford a Santa Cruz bullet or anything like that.
I use this frame for all my riding, XC, Freeriding, Downhilling everything.
I have dropped everything up to 7 footers on this thing and I don't think I have come close to bottoming out.
My full bike weighs in at 31lbs, it makes me really happy to have something this light that can handle so much.
I like the 6" setting, because it does not flex or bob as much as in the 7" setting.
This is a very good frame and I would recommend it to anyone who wants a freeride frame.
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Submitted by
dookie b
a Cross Country Rider
from riverside ca usa
Date Reviewed: July 21, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$749.00 | | Purchased At: | supergo | | Strengths: | looks great, great price, manitou swinger 6way, simple design, paint | | Weaknesses: | Ill let you know when I find one | | Similar Products Used: | diamondback x somthing, Gt lts, giant warp, nrs | | Bike Setup: | sun ryno lite, xt hubs, avid mechs/8in rotors, truvativ husselfelt cranks/w guide, lx rear, azonic bars, weyless dh stem, boxxer | | Bottom Line: | I shouldnt be posting this yet since I havnt actually ridden yet. I just got it yesterday and am still putting it together. I was just so excited about it that I had to say somthing. This review is actually for the 2004 model. There has been a couple of changes over the 03.
1. Paint job is alot a better. Its a gun metal gray on black. Very stealthy. It also seems to be more durable paint than previously.
2.Manitou Swinger! Using 5th element technology this shock should be a big improvment over the Rock Shox. When I figure out how to set it up.
3.Instead of a replacable derailleur hanger, it has replacable drop outs on both sides. I dont know what the benifit of this is, but it looks cool.
When I get some riding time on it I will repost, and let everyone know how its going.
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Submitted by
scott
a
from Alaska
Date Reviewed: July 17, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Bottom Line: | I wanted to update my earlier review. After I first posted about the 67 here on MTBR I was contacted by the Steve, the Product Manager for Supergo and Weyless bikes. I was impressed that he took the time to phone me and give me an explaination to my complaints.
The water bottle mounts were only installed on the first prototype frame and then they were dropped because he found that the extra welding needed for the bosses would weaken the area on the downtube in front of the pivot. He didn't realize that Supergo was advertising the bike with water bottle bosses so he had them change the website ad because of my post.
He aslo said the seat tubes are slightly curved on all the 67's. The reasoning is that the curved post allows for tire clearence when bottoming out in the 7" position since the bike is equipped with relativly short chainstays to give it quicker handling. The seat post only needs 80mm of length to be stuck in the frame when it is raised to full extension. I was able to shorten my post so that it now lowers further down. Because of the way the seat tube is constructed, only the upper 80mm is actually gripping the post. After that the tubing walls become thinner so they don't even touch the post when it is lowered all the way down.
I finally received my owner's manual after contacting Supergo and see they have a 5yr warranty on the frame. I also noticed they have that info on the website as well.
Anyway, I dig my bike and I feel a lot better about Supergo since Steve took the time to talk to me about my concerns. That makes a big difference to me. If anyone else has questions just email me. For the earlier post on soft paint, I have not noticed any problems and my bike looks fine. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
scott
a
from alaska
Date Reviewed: July 5, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | It is truly a nice frame. The paint looks nice and even the retro 80's style graphics finally won me over. the frame is stout without being super heavy. | | Weaknesses: | Supergo, plain and simple! My bike arrived without water bottle bosses and the seat post tube was slightly curved. I can't lower the seat post all the way down like their ad states you can. | | Similar Products Used: | '91 Specialized Rockhopper Comp
'95 Cannondale Super V
'97 Trek Y3
'98 Specialized FSR Extreme
'99 Trek VRX | | Bike Setup: | Sun Single Track wheels with XT disc hubs
Avid discs F/R
XT deraillures
XT shifters
Stock Specialized Son of StrongArm crank
Generic cassette
Sachs chain
Mosh pedals
Profile bars
Marzocchi Z.1 Freeride fork
Pro Deluxe rear shock (350lb) rear spring
Weyless seat post, stem and QR
Specialized seat | | Bottom Line: | I like this frame but am not pleased with Supergo. After I received my frame and built it up using both new and used components off my old FSR, I found my seat post tube had a slight curve to it which didn't allow me to drop my seat post down all the way like the Supergo ad stated. Also, my frame did not come with water bottle bosses like was spec'd on the website. After emailing and finally calling Supergo I got the choice of either getting a full credit back or $50. What I wanted was a new frame but Supergo said they could not supply me with a new 16" frame to replace my flawed one. I should add that it took Supergo two entire weeks just to ship the frame to me which was far beyond the 3-5 extra days they listed on their website.
In the end I chose a $50 discount since I knew that I couldn't buy a frame with 6"-7" of travel for $545. A brand new Bullit runs $1100 and I simply could not justify spending that amount on a bicycle frame.
I want to stress that Supergo was not the most helpful place I have ever dealt with. The lady I emailed and later talked to over the phone was hard to understand. Her emails were easy to read but her English over the phone left something to be desired. I ended up repeating myself several times to get the point across and asked her to repeat to me what she had said since her accent was hard to decifer to a guy from AK. We finally worked everything out but I still do not understand why Supergo has people working the phones who speak poor English?
Anyway, the frame (now bike) performs far better than my '98 FSR. It bobs down the bike path when seated and bobs everywhere else but the ride is so much better than my the FSR I really don't mind. The swingarm digs in for traction while pedeling so it climbs better than my FSR and a lot of people have trouble believing that!
The stock spring is a little soft for my weight but keeps the rear tire in contact with the ground and has not yet bottomed out harshly. I do like the frame and think it is a good deal. Supergo should have sent me a new frame, plain and simple. I cannot recommend doing business with Supergo because I don't think they stand behind their product. I hope I don't have any additional warranty issues. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rob
a Weekend Warrior
from Weymouth
Date Reviewed: July 3, 2003 | | Favoriate Trail: | wompatuck | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$595.00 | | Purchased At: | Supergo | | Strengths: | Frame is beefy yet light; must be the magic of Easton Rad tubing. Replacable derailleur hanger (it comes with an extea one - nice touch). I didn't put it on the scale, but it was easily under 10 pounds probably under 9.
Price - 595 for a 7 inch frame is a no-brainer | | Weaknesses: | Paint's pretty weak. LBS's seem to hate supergo stuff, so don't bring it there. | | Similar Products Used: | Giant AC, Giant VT, Giant NRS, FSR, Kona Kickapu, Santa Cruz Superlight | | Bike Setup: | Manitou Black Comp (120, SRAM 9.0 shifters and derailleur, XT disc brakes, XT Crankset, XT Cassette, WTB Lazerlite laced to Mavic F219's, Maxis Mofo tires, and I used one of those Azonic Headlock's instead of the star nut. Whole thing with eggbeaters, a weyless seatpost (included), a cheap 80mm DH stem and a cheap riser bar weighs about 34 lbs. I used a 118 XT BB, and I've been re-thinking it, but so far so good - no shifting problems, no chain problems. | | Bottom Line: | I rode Sunday River on my NRS a couple of times last season. DH is no fun with an NRS. So I decided to build a freerider that I could do DH on too. Problem is, I couldn't afford the kind of bike I wanted. So I talked about $2200 frames (ID), then I talked about $1200 frames (Bullit), so when I saw this for $595, my wife was actually glad I bought it.
I was embarrased when I ordered it. I never had given Weyless a second thought. But when the frame arrived, I was psyched. It looks great. The Rockshox Pro Deluxe is HUGE, and the squared RAD tubing is beefy. No weld problems; they look great too. I really wanted a 6 or 7 inch fork on this. I ended up with the Black Comp because I got it from Performance for $160. It was either that or wait another season til I could afford a longer fork. So once again, I 'settled', but when i got to ride the Black I was pleased.
I've never ridden a Bullit, so I can't compare this frame to the bullit. All I can say is this thing rides great. I was concerned about the Rockshox Pro Deluxe. I thought RS was crappy. Well this shock is great. I've got it adjusted preferct. When I'm going fast over rough stuff, it feels like its hovering; almost like a boat. As far as big hits go, well the biggest I've gone so far is about 2.5 feet, and it sucked that up just fine.
I was really surprised at how well this bike climbs. My othe two FS bikes have both been 4-bars with less than 4 inches. So I expected this thing to be a bobbing fiend. But it doesn't seem to bob at all. I mean if I stand up and pedal like an idiot, I can make it bob. But if I'm sitting there climbing, I don't feel any bob. And the truth is in the results. It climbs. I certainly takes more energy to push this 34 pound bike up a hill than it does my 25 pound NRS, but it does go up. And with the 80 mm stem and the 120mm fork, it goes where I point it, up or down.
For most of the rideing this bike will see, the 5 inch Black is ideal. When I do hit the lifts at Sunday River I'll probably want another inch or two, and maybe sometime I'll be able to afford a 6 inch Bomber or a Monster T or something. But I'm having a blast with this bike as is. It did cost me about $1800 to build this, and although the parts are a bit better than those on the Bike Supergo sells, their full bike comes with a better fork and the Swinger shock. If I had $1800 all at once, I'd have been better off getting the whole bike. Then again, if I had $1800 to blow, I probably would have bought a bullit, so maybe its a moot point.
Bottom line: you won't find a frame with 7 inches of travel for cheaper. And after riding this, I'm wondering how a $1200 frame or a $2200 frame can possibly be worth that much. This bike is a blast going down, climbs everything I've thrown at it, and is almost light enough to pedal around all day. Buy one while they're still available! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
TheGDog
a Weekend Warrior
from Huntington Beach, CA
Date Reviewed: April 23, 2003 | | Favoriate Trail: | Whiting Ranch - Cactus Trail | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$699.00 | | Purchased At: | SuperGo @ Laguna Hills | | Strengths: | Lotsa nice travel. Really light in weight. Shock has Rebound and Compression dampening. | | Weaknesses: | Paint is soft, easily nicked. Hard to reach High & Low adjustment knobs on front deraileur. | | Similar Products Used: | None.. though rode a friends Iron Horse waay heavier! | | Bike Setup: | Took all the components off the slightly built-up 2001 GT i-Drive 3.0 whose frame cracked. | | Bottom Line: | I currently have a 5" BLACK ELite 120 fork on it and it really feels like it would benefit from a 6 or 7 inch fork. She has a slightly steep head angle as currently setup... more XC'ish. Not Bad.. just feels like I could fly faster with more slackened angle. Not the easiest bike to pull the front-end up with. Takes some work. On downhills with lotsa stutter bumps she felt really busy.. but still tracked well. Fun doing big jumps too! She climbs really well too! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joe
a Cross Country Rider
from Buckley, Wa usa
Date Reviewed: February 16, 2003 | | Favoriate Trail: | Below Her navel. | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$700.00 | | Purchased At: | SuperGo | | Strengths: | Geometry is excellent for me. It feels right no matter how I'm riding it. Suspension is great. Dampen it for less bob although I can get it right for hammering and flying through the nasty stuff. The bike goes wherever I point it even though there is flex. I can throw this bike around and it weighs 35lbs. It climbs well for a bike this heavy. You will have to lean forward but that is do-able so not to worry. | | Weaknesses: | Flexy frame. I realized after some imput from SuperGo that my nokian was causing the squirm I was feeling. Soft big nobs the culprit. Put on moto raptor 2.4 and its much better. No squirming just some lateral flex and there is a difference. | | Similar Products Used: | 1st dually! | | Bike Setup: | Added moto raptor 2.4 on back and am using Heim tensioner(noisy) but effective so far. | | Bottom Line: | I am having too much fun riding this bike despite the lateral flex. Been riding just about evey day since last review. Since I love the way the bike handles, feels and looks I don't feel right leaving my poor last review the way it is. I weigh 220 now and I know that is adding to some flex. The bike does what I tell it to do anyways. I still haven't hucked yet but I have down hilled it and heavy xc'd it. Even though it weighs 35lbs I can move it around readily. For these reasons I changed my mind and think it is a good bike. Now if you prefer a rigid back end with your full susp then get something else I don't care anymore. I'm really hav'n the time of my life on this thing. Might as well see what it can do and forget about the flex. Its not causing me any problems yet. Been thrashing it in the muddy Washington trails. Can't wait for some dryer trail riding! I'm going to give it 5's to off set my crappy score prior. As much fun as I am having I would give it a 3 taking 2 away for the lateral flex. Now I won't post anymore on this bike unless it takes a crap on me. Sorry for the extra reviews. Not really. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joe H.
a Cross Country Rider
from Buckley, Wa usa
Date Reviewed: February 7, 2003 | | Favoriate Trail: | Below Her navel. | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Plush suspension. Looks solid but.... | | Weaknesses: | Rear triangle/bar is very flexy. You can move it from side to side laterally, easily. I had felt some squirming while riding even while riding straight ahead. When I checked to see if my hub was still tight I noticed all the lateral play and realized why it felt squirmish. Move rear wheel from side to side and you can see the whole bike move laterally. | | Similar Products Used: | First dually. | | Bike Setup: | See previous review. | | Bottom Line: | I really liked the bike the first couple of rides. Then I felt the lateral play in rearend. Not good at all. I can feel the bike squirm underneath me as I am riding it. Now I am stuck with this flexy bike. Everything is tight as far as pivots and shock mount. I read the review in MBA and can not for the life of me figure out how they didn't notice all the lateral play in the rear. Really. When you move the rearend with your hand laterally it moves alot. It doesn't matter how much you weigh at this point. You're not even on the bike and it flexes. It needs a more rigid rear bar on it. Then the bike would be excellent. I am very disappointed with the bike frame now. I expected some flex but no way did I expect this much. I can't recommend the frame as it is now. Look elsewhere. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Joe H.
a Cross Country Rider
from Buckley, Wa usa
Date Reviewed: January 25, 2003 | | Favoriate Trail: | Below Her navel. | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$700.00 | | Purchased At: | SuperGo | | Strengths: | Easton Rad tubing, Rigid, 6/7 inches plush springy-ness. Single pivot feels great to me although it is my first double spring. Clean cable routing. Lots of room in back for a fat tire. To me it seems like a very solid bike. We'll see! | | Weaknesses: | I'm used to a 26lb lite freeride heavy xc Specialized Enduro Ht Expert. My 67 comes in at 35lbs. I can feel the weight difference with peddling. I'm a big strong boy though and I don't care right now. I'm just happy to have this machine to do new things with. | | Similar Products Used: | None. 1st full suspension. | | Bike Setup: | 67 frame and Weyless seat post and Rock shox pro deluxe spring. Azonic Love seat, Thompson stem and monkeybar rizer. 03' LX Cranks, Gld LX front Mech and XT rear Mech. Sram 7.0 cassette. Rhyno lite XL and xt disc hub in front and Sun Mammoth with Hope xc disc hub in rear. Tires are 2.4 motoraptor in front and 2.35 Gaz dual on back. Fox Vanilla 03' 5 inch fork. Avid mechs 8 in. rotors both with 5.0 levers and deore 9 speed shifters. | | Bottom Line: | A sweet dually. Heavy though. Got to build me up some leg strength on my local trails. No biggy. I see others are hitting around the 30 to 32lb mark with their's. One guy got it to 28lb..nice. I'm a big boy at under 230lb 6' tall. I'm shaving some fat off though but carry a good amount of muscle from weight lifting. So I'm saying I am not a weight weeney when it comes to this kind of bike(Freeride). The suspension feels good to me. I took it out today in the mud and crud of Washington and it performed great all gunked up. Lost that new bike luster quick. Rolled over roots and log piles nicely although I only hit some smaller ones. I look forward to more and bigger things because the bike will be capable and I won't jar my back like on my Hts. The guys at my bike shop put it together for me. They told me its a nice ride and suprisingly said it peddles well. They have 4 bar duallys that of course have the good bits. I will do another post later for durability. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Patrick Mattingly
a Weekend Warrior
from Palmdale
Date Reviewed: January 12, 2003 | | Favoriate Trail: | The Ridge | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$695.00 | | Purchased At: | SuperGo Mail Order | | Strengths: | Price, Lots of efficent rear travel, Good all-around design. | | Weaknesses: | Paint job chips a bit too easy, rear V brake placement forces cable on the outside of the rear swing arm. | | Similar Products Used: | 01 Ellsworth Id, 98 FSR Pro. | | Bike Setup: | 00 XFly 100mm front fork, All XT except crankset which is LX, Weyless riser, Kore elite stem, Selle saddle, Avid V brakes, Ricthey Rims and Panaracer tires. | | Bottom Line: | Every year I build up a second bike for fun, and to use as a back-up bike or when I travel. I use what's ever laying around my garage, which is why I used V brakes. I was originally looking at a used Joker frame, but when I saw this frame I thought, what the heck - I can get this new and it's cheaper then a used Joker.
Out-of-the-box:
First let me say that the paint scheme, although a bit hokey, looked much nicer then the catalog picture. All the parts were in there. I went around with an Allen wrench and checked all the screws, etc.. Also I immediately set it up for the 7" inch option. it was clean.
The Build-up:
All went as expected. You need complete cable to the rear derailler and brakes. The only hitch was the rear brake noodle placement forced me to put the cable on the outside of the swing arm, which if not tied would interfere with my left angle, but so what - I should be using Disc brakes anyway. The weight comes in at 28 pounds !!
The Ride:
Excellent really. I'm a traditional four-bar-boy, but this single pivot stuff is pretty damn good. I'm not a suspension snob, so if it doesn't move more than a 1/4" when pedalling, I'm happy. I love the 7" inches of travel it feels really good over most everything I've taken it on, gullies, washboard, small jumps, etc. What can I say this bike rocks.
My Buddies Bike:
My friend Joey built up a Weyless as well and asked me to say that he didn't feel as though he gave up anything with this bike. He is climbing hills that he didn't do before. I think some of that is the "new bike" phenomina, but it does say something about this bike's design.
The Rating:
I'm only going 4 chilis because of the paint job - but really this is a 5 chilis bike! Good job Supergo for bringing fun to mountain biking at a really good price.
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Submitted by
William "Snakeboy" Guimaraes
a Downhiller
from Los Angeles, USA
Date Reviewed: December 20, 2002 | | Favoriate Trail: | Tunnel in SB | | Duration Product Used: | Tested or demo'ed only | | Price Paid: |
$695.00 | | Purchased At: | Supergo Bike Shops | | Strengths: | Cheap, lots of travel, nice paint job, nice clean welds, Easton RAD tubing, comes w/seat post an Q/R seat clamp, good sealed bearing pivots, nice (clean look) cable tabs on frame, new superdelux rear shock with piggy pack. The best part was that I still had money left over to get the rest of the components. | | Weaknesses: | None yet, except for the lack of creativity on the Weyless logo that is clear coated on the frame. | | Similar Products Used: | Mountain Cycle San Andreas 6in, Santa Cruz Bullit. | | Bike Setup: | Weyless 67 freeride, 03 Marz Z1 FR, RaceFace cranks and b/bracket, XT, Weyless carbon h/bars and shorty stem, Formula/Mavic F219 w/oversized front axle, Hayes HXF comp hydrolic disc brakes, WTB MotoRaptors Freeride 26x2.4. | | Bottom Line: | I just wanted something so I could train on my local trails with out having to push my heavy DH bike up all the hills. I set this bike up really nice without spending a lot of money. I just put it together and have only ridden it around my neighborhood. I plan on going for a night ride tomorrow night with some friends. So far it feels nice and solid, plush travel and very responsive. I'm about 6 ft tall and 200lbs and intend in giving this bike the hammering of it life. I will post up a follow up in couple of weeks and let everyone know how it's holding up. If you in the market for a beefy Freeride frame with lots of travel and don't want to spend thousands of dollars don't be fooled by the price. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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