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Submitted by
Ibis Breezer
a Cross Country Rider
from Dallas, Texas
Date Reviewed: March 1, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Rowlett Creek Preserve | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$175.00 | | Purchased At: | Speedgoat, I think | | Strengths: | These cranks are stiff and have a very nice finish. | | Weaknesses: | The polished aluminum just wasn't working for me. After several months of riding they were water-spotted and tarnished looking. | | Similar Products Used: | Pauls | | Bike Setup: | Rigid Singlespeed 29er | | Bottom Line: | These are nice cranks, pretty pricey, but they just weren't working on my bike. They are designed around a 47mm offset for the chainline but my bike needs 52mm so I swapped them out and will off them on eBay soon. A nice piece, the shiny just doesn't look right on my bike. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Havoc
a Cross Country Rider
from Orange County, CA
Date Reviewed: August 8, 2003 | | Favoriate Trail: | The one I'm riding on | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$180.00 | | Purchased At: | Cambria and White Ind | | Strengths: | Please note that this review is for the forged American made version, not the Sugino knock off that anyone who paid $50 for has. I've been using two sets of these cranks for 5 five years now and they are excellent! Forged into a channel shape, they are like the previous generation of XTR crank without the welded-on back plate. They're stiff, light, available in more lengths (I use 177.5) than any other crank. Plus the finish is easily restored with metal polish. You can't do anything like that with an anodized, painted, or powder coated crank. I haven't bent them even with drops and jumps galore. Also, they're one piece (as opposed to bolt on spider) so they don't creak at all.
One set is on a hard tail which really saw two years of hard abuse, and the other is on my Heckler and has been even more seriously abused for 4 years. No problems with either.
Easily the best cranks I've ever ridden. | | Weaknesses: | No longer made!! I keep begging the folks at White to reissue them, but they aren't sure.
Square taper only. Please make an Isis version so we can take full advantage of the stiffness of this design.
On my 94/58 bolt pattern version, the drive side arm sits a little closer to the big ring than on my 110/74. This makes a quiet front derailleur adjustment a little more finicky. | | Similar Products Used: | Grafton (way flexy), Cook (flexy and crooked spider), Shimano XT '98(benchmark), DX '91(heavy), LX '91 (really heavy) '99 (ok), XTR '98 (nice, but finish gets destroyed in wet riding), Ritchey (too tight a q factor), Race Face (nothing special), Sugino (cold forged ones were good, rest are subpar) | | Bike Setup: | Heckler, XT, Marzocchi, King, White Industries front hub and cranks, Real levers and rings, Race Face BB
Custom steel hardtail, original XTR group, Nuke Proof hubs, Epic Research Ti BB w/ White Ind. Cranks (this setup is stiffer than XT) | | Bottom Line: | If you find some, buy it! If it's 177.5mm length, don't buy it. Email me and I'll buy it. :) | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
matt
a
from portland, OR
Date Reviewed: August 6, 2003 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$85.00 | | Purchased At: | e-bay | | Strengths: | stiff, sexy, reasonably light | | Weaknesses: | none yet | | Similar Products Used: | bontrager racelite, cook bros F-series, LX, XT, stylo | | Bike Setup: | Litespeed pisgah, avid mech discs, chris king headset, white industries single speed drivetrain, salsa bits and titec bits. | | Bottom Line: | they look good... almost too good. they ride nice and might become a collectors item since white industries doesn't make em' any more | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
jake corbett
a Weekend Warrior
from vacaville,Ca.,U.S.A.
Date Reviewed: July 8, 2003 | | Favoriate Trail: | rockville | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Purchased At: | peddle pusher | | Strengths: | made in usa,strong,good looks | | Weaknesses: | none | | Similar Products Used: | shimano | | Bike Setup: | gt zaskarle,manitou forks and stem,white hubs,white bottom brkt,avid brakes,chris king ahead,speed play frogs,mavic | | Bottom Line: | I have not had any problems with this crank.I used profile rings with it and worked fine. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Eric Jackson
a Racer
from Northford, CT
Date Reviewed: January 27, 2002 | | Favoriate Trail: | Dooly's run | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$40.00 | | Purchased At: | Cambria | | Strengths: | Strong, well made, looks good. | | Weaknesses: | Heavy | | Similar Products Used: | Shimano Lx, STX-RC | | Bike Setup: | Scott Elite Racing, Titec, XT, Rolf Wheels, Manitou SX-R, Real levers/Avid SD-25 brakes. | | Bottom Line: | I have the Sugino versions of the White Industries. They seem to be stiff, but I also have not really ridden on Race Face, or other high quality cranks. They do seem to be heavy compared to some other cranks. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Reno Rains
a Cross Country Rider
from Oregon somewhere
Date Reviewed: July 22, 2001 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | mail order | | Strengths: | Super super super stiff! No flex unlike most other cranks. The simple polished finish looks great | | Weaknesses: | The finish is a little to easy to scratch. | | Similar Products Used: | Shimano xt,lx,stxrc | | Bottom Line: | Great crank. Works great with hardtails of FS bikes. Now go buy one!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Scott
a Cross Country Rider
from Beverly Hills, Mi, USA
Date Reviewed: June 2, 2001 | | Favoriate Trail: | Island Lakes | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$45.00 | | Purchased At: | Jenson USA | | Strengths: | welp i thought i was getting a good deal on the crank | | Weaknesses: | here we go! ok i put then on my bike and hadnt really a chance to ride them on a trail untill a couple of weeks later. mabye a mile or two i bent the second chain ring. that was a dissapointment. another weakness is that the arms are as flexable as hell! one would think that they were maid out of rubber. i really did not care for the proudct. | | Similar Products Used: | shimano | | Bike Setup: | barricuda comp with everything custom
(made it my self) | | Bottom Line: | welp the bottm line is that if you want to waste your money then get the white industries. if you are like every other person in the world then buy something that is quality | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Brent
a Cross Country Rider
from Portland, OR
Date Reviewed: October 5, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$60.00 | | Purchased At: | White Industries | | Strengths: | I bought a bike with the Sugino cranks, so I called White Industries,and they upgraded me to the cold-forged, U.S. made forks for $60, no questions asked. The REAL White Industries cranks are beautiful, light, strong; a real masterpiece. | | Weaknesses: | What was with that Japanese junk, anyhow?! | | Similar Products Used: | Sugino-made White Industries, Grafton, XT | | Bike Setup: | Yo Eddy | | Bottom Line: | White Industries blew it with the Japanese knock-off--they're heavy, ugly, and not as strong. White redeemed themselves with the upgrade, though. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Brett Nelson
a Cross Country Rider
from Adrian, MI USA
Date Reviewed: October 4, 2000 | | Favoriate Trail: | govt. trl: Aspen to Crested Butte | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | came on a 1996 Schwinn S-10 | | Strengths: | Structural integrity? which is more than I can say for any shimano I've had... | | Weaknesses: | Yes, I have the cheap Sugino knock-off, and the real thing | | Similar Products Used: | Race Face Turbine LP, 2000 XTR, Coda, Bontrager | | Bike Setup: | 1997 Specialized S-Works m2 XTR/XT (except cranks) | | Bottom Line: | I have been riding for about 10 years. While I admit that I am not the best rider out there, I've been around long enough to know hype from functional reality. I weigh about 245 and really hammer on my equipment. I have trashed a set of XTRs, Exploded Bontragers, and somehow had bad luck with race face (those stupid spacers you have to use). The bottom line is that for two years I had the Sugino knock-off White Industry cranks and never had a problem with them. They didn't creak, nor did they break. The were a little flexy, but I have not found a crank that I don't flex when I'm not spinning good circles or am out of the saddle. The REAL white industries cranks are the same. BOMBPROOF... Not to say that all of the cranks that I have tried aren't pretty good... just saying that for someone as big as I am who is very hard on equipment, it is a testiment to this product that I still have both on two of my bikes the knock-offs and the real thing... and both are in functional condition. (HOWEVER... I replaced the chainrings on both with race face rings on the Whites and REAL rings on the Suginos...) THe white rings and sugino rings are tin foil. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
jason
a Weekend Warrior
from canada
Date Reviewed: June 26, 2000 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Strengths: | strong, solid, cheap(I payed 100 dollars for them(canadian)) | | Weaknesses: | the rings don't hold up well and shift like crap, heavy, I got the ones made by Sugino. | | Similar Products Used: | alivio, suntour, more sugino | | Bike Setup: | 1998 raleigh serengeti, Bommer Z5, LX, stx-rc, alivio | | Bottom Line: | these are not bad cranks, but only a week after I got them a bunch of teeth were missing off the middle ring, the shop I bought them at replaced the ring with one of the same type and I haven't had a problem with. I also have had problems with the small ring because it tends to slip under any type of load, but realy for $100 cdn. I can't complain too much, because the crank itself works good and takes quite a beating because I have a tendency to forget to level the crank when going through a rock infested trail, but untill they get some better rings i wouldn't recomend them unless you are straped for cash and can get a good deal on them. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Woody
a Cross Country Rider
from NJ, USA
Date Reviewed: April 18, 2000 | | Favoriate Trail: | Mahlon Dickerson | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | Beautiful looks, stiff, stiff, stiff | | Weaknesses: | Chainrings | | Similar Products Used: | Old Shimano Deore DX | | Bike Setup: | Bontrager Race: XTR 8 speed Casette, IG 70 Chain | | Bottom Line: | First the good news. I bought these cranks direct from White Ind at a slight discount. They are beautiful, light and stiff as hell.
Now the bad news. The White chainrings are absolutely the worst I've ever used. On the first ride, they would skip and pop off the rings under power. this was with a brand new Sachs PC-51 chain. So then I went and bought a new Shimano IG 70 chain thinking it would make a difference. No dice. Finally, I punched out the pins thinking they were just touching the chain and lifting it off on the power stroke. Once again, no dice.
I ripped those pieces of sh*t off and put on some no name cheap American made AL rings, no ramps, pins or anything. Finally, it worked. When I compared the White rings to my old beat up rings, I noticed 2 things. First, the semi-circle cuts where the chain roller sits was not as deep as normal rings. Second, the radius of the semi-circle cuts was larger than normal rings. These 2 factors definitely made the chain not grip the rings. I called White and they said "I've never heard of that problem" Well, they obviously don't read these reviews cuz I've read other similar comments right here and in the ring review section. Anyway, I mailed them back to White in the hope that they will refund some cash to me. Yeah Right!
I also ordered a complete set of Real Rings (the 7075 ones). I can't wait till they come. I figured, as long as I'm using a great crank, I might as well use great rings. Anyone else with similar experiences, please e-mail me. I gave the rating of 4 chilis cuz of the rings. Actually, the rings get 0 chilis, and the cranks get 5.
Peace,
Woody | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Al
a Cross Country Rider
from Red Deer
Date Reviewed: February 29, 2000 | | Favoriate Trail: | Moose Packers Trail | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | Fairly stiff, cheap | | Weaknesses: | Lousy chainrings, made by Sugino | | Similar Products Used: | Shimano Lx | | Bike Setup: | Fisher Big Sur with Z2 Bombers, XT V Brakes | | Bottom Line: | Bought in 98 on sale for $150 Canadian, found out much later they were the cheaper Japanese versions. Despite this they have proven reliable despite looking like hell after one muddy riding session. Definately stiffer than 98 era Shimano LX cranks but LX have better chainrings. Received the fax below from White Industries, this should help clear up confusion regarding Japanese and American versions of this crank:
Hi,
Here is the scoop....the Japanese cranks are melt forged (cast) where
as the
cranks we produce are cold forged. In general, a cold forged crank is
stronger than a melt forged crank. The Japanese crank is heavier just
by
the design of the crank. However, the crank was designed to be more
affordable than our cold forged crank. The fact that it is slightly
heavier
and is cast was not the problem we had with the cranks.
Most all the Japanese cranks were specified as original equipment on
bicycles made overseas. When the bicycle manufacture installed the
cranks
they were not tightened down to Sugino's specifications. The first
time the
bicycle was ridden the crank taper would ovalize and it appeared that
the
crank arm or the chainrings were bent. Since the bicycle manufacturers
were
not made aware of Sugino's irregular specifications many bicycles
rolled off
the assembly lines and were subjected to the ovalization problem.
However,
if the crank was installed to Sugino's specifications, the crank should
work
fine. It sounds like you are one of the lucky ones who had the crank
installed correctly so I wouldn't lose sleep over your cranks.
Now you know more than you probably wanted. Hopefully you will get
many
more years out of your crank. The chainrings are a standard five bolt
pattern ring so you shouldn't have trouble replacing them.
Best regards,
Lynette
For what I paid for this crankset a value rating of three stars. For $45, as at many web retailers, this product is a great value. Just replace the rings with quality Raceface or Shimano rings once the stock rings wear out.
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Submitted by
Dereek
a Cross-Country Rider
from Delaware
Date Reviewed: December 14, 1999 | | Favoriate Trail: |
anything singletrack | | Duration Product Used: |
6 months | | Bottom Line: | They work. My pedals are always where I ecpect them be. They don't creak or moan about doing their job. They're pretty light, and I got a great deal them too. (US forged w/rings) | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nate U-Lee
a Racer
from Mukwonago WI
Date Reviewed: December 7, 1999 | | Favoriate Trail: |
John Muir | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Stiff
Looks great with Red Kooka Chainrings
Good Finish,
Did I mention Stiff
Got the Forged One for $20 Not that crappy Sugino | | Weaknesses: |
None | | Similar Products Used: |
Shitmano LX
Shitmano XT | | Bike Setup: |
97 Klien Pulse pro
Judy XC
Spinergy SPOX
2000 9.0sl SRAM
Crowbars | | Bottom Line: | These are some great cranks. A definitely good upgrade for the performance person in mind. Looks super sweet with the acid red Kooka cranks. I have a good friend who sold these to me brand new for $20 you would have to be out of your @#$%ing mind not to buy them for that price | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
john
a Cross-Country Rider
from state college pa
Date Reviewed: September 19, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
low cost? | | Weaknesses: |
soft metal
creaking | | Similar Products Used: |
STX | | Bike Setup: |
95 Jamis Diablo, all XT except the cranks | | Bottom Line: | I bought my bike with these cranks. These are the SUGINO LOOK-ALIKE version. I got a good deal on the bike because it was a year-end clearance deal, so I didn't worry about the cranks. They held up reasonably well to my riding style (no crazy stuff, just a few jumps, and mostly climbs.) I weigh 165 so I won't go into the product stiffness, but they gave out when I was sprinting the other day. My pedals began to vibrate and after removing them, I noticed that the metal had cracked around the pedal threads. Now it's time to replace. Any suggestions? LX, Xt? I don't want to be poor because of a crank purchase. I gave them two stars because they did hold out for about two years. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ray
a Cross-Country Rider
from Calgary, Alberta
Date Reviewed: August 25, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Bottom Line: | I have to admit that I made one tiny mistake in my previous review. This was brought to my attention after a venomous response from Cambria. The order wasn't lost by Cambria, it was sent to the wrong address by the postal service. Cambria never tried to contact me after they got the returned package even AFTER my credit card was billed and covered. I guess they decided to keep my money even though they got their product back. I want to be in that business, sell nothing over and over.It still stands that Cambria placed an item titled White Industry Cranks/Made by Sugino/$49 DIRECTLY BELOW the item White Industry Cranks/Cold Forged/$109. Decide for yourself what you think you would receive if you ordered the Cold Forged item. I got sent something made by Sugino. Misleading advertising? Like duh?! Back to Nashbar for me. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ray
a Cross-Country Rider
from Calgary, Alberta
Date Reviewed: August 25, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Bottom Line: | Let us just get into the nitty gritty details of my experience from H*** created by Cambria mail order. I check mtbr.com for reviews of this crank and all looked good as long as I got the made in the USA version of the crank. After Cambria lost my order for the USA version, 7 weeks later do I receive (you guessed it) the made in Japan Sugino version. Big hairy deal you say, the kicker is Cambria charges me the price for the made in the USA versions. Talked to White Industries and they confirmed that these cranks are not worth what I paid for them. The Cambria returns person said that there are 3 or 4 Sugino made versions and I paid for a more expensive one. Again, White Industries say NOT!I settled on keeping the cranks however because I needed them to ride and Cambria wanted me to pay for the shipping again. I frankly don't trust them to refund my money and then I'll be stuck with nothing.The bottom line? White Industries should have never created a situation like this in the first place by making similar looking cranks at different quality levels. As for the cranks I got, they work just like cranks always do, alignment is spot on and there is no noticable flex, I came from Race Face cranks (the old version with the bolted spider) and I don't find a difference. Since the good version of these cranks have a hollowed out back, they should be lighter than the ones that I have. Cavet emptor. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Scott
a Cross-Country Rider
from St. Louis, MO
Date Reviewed: August 10, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
less than 1 month | | Strengths: |
Incredibly strong, great finish and nice looking - look like bike jewerly! | | Weaknesses: |
None | | Similar Products Used: |
Sugino model of same, Shimano LX, XT | | Bike Setup: |
Klein, White SC90 | | Bottom Line: | Well if you noticed, I did of review of the cheaper version and basically said they were ok. I'd like to post a retraction! I installed them earlier this year, looked ok, rode them a few times and noticed my rings were wobbling a bit. After the first ride the finish started to wear and the cranks looked like they were ready for the trash. Polished them up, tried to adjust driveline - still a wobble. Ok, they were 49 bucks, I thought I'd live with it, after a few more rides just got really tired of adjustent for the wobble. Saw a post regarding getting an upgrade, called White, said that people should'nt sell the Sugino model - they are totally crap and have been pulled out of production. Upgrade my crank for 60 dollars including shipping. What a deal! The cranks are totally amazing, mirror-like finish that can be polished up to make them look like new, zero flex and no more wobble. They forgot to send me the granny spacers - but called them and a week later they arrived. Nice customer service and great product. Basically got a 180 amazaing crank for 109 dollars. Since I got such a great deal, replaced the sugino rings with Syncros and have been riding without problems since! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ric
a Cross-Country Rider
from Arizona
Date Reviewed: June 2, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
inde-FRIGGIN_structable | | Weaknesses: |
none...unless you got hosed and ended up with the Sugino's | | Similar Products Used: |
LX, XT | | Bike Setup: |
98 F700 cannondale, MC60...debating on using a reducer and putting on my trusted Manitou | | Bottom Line: | I am a 230 pound powerlifting Lunatic !! I have bent 3 sets of pedals because of my ruthless hammering, dropoffs, and Downhilling and these cranks have stayed true and staight. My cranks are now on their 3rd bike! I only ride Cannondale and we all know how flex-free those are...These pedals are worth what ever they want to charge. Just make sure you get the real ones. Mine are hollowed out from the rear...I dont know if they all are. I only wish I would of kept up with the polish! The rings that came with it are still on it and the shifting is still ummmm...ok. but were talking loads of abuse from full power downshifting on hills to just plain hundreds of miles. I can only give them 5 chiles but lets just say these are the best chiles !! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Craiger
a Racer
from Spokane, WA
Date Reviewed: May 15, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
more than 3 years | | Bike Setup: |
'99 LTS 1000ds w/Z1 bomber. White Industries Ti B/B, Ti front & rear hubs | | Bottom Line: | These cranks are excellent (USA made). I've used the same pair of cranks on three different bikes and they keep taking the abuse. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
phil w
a Cross-Country Rider
from philadelphia, pa
Date Reviewed: April 26, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
more than 3 years | | Bottom Line: | There are 2 White Industries cranks. There is a forged, stronger, lighter version, and a cheaper, heavier, uglier, and flimsy version made by Sugino. Also, you should know of a mail-order company with whom not to do business (see below).I originally bought the forged version in late '94 after they soon came out. They have a beautiful, polished aluminum finish, and have proven themselves to be extremely durable. They're light, stiff, and because there is no anodizing or other finish on them, they don't show scratches as badly as other cranks. P.S.: Polish them up regularly with Simichrome polish or Mother's Mag Polish (preferred) and they'll look great forever. Both polishes are available at your local auto parts store.Then the bad news. I recently bought the cheaper casted version of the crank made by Sugino from a mail-order company (who misrepresented the cranks on the internet) when I was building up another bike. These cranks are worthless. They're heavy, and the finish is terrible. I contacted White Industries about the discrepancy of the two versions and was told that these cranks are not being produced by Sugino anymore because they're so bad.Now for more bad news. I purchase alot of stuff from the internet, and here's company you SHOULD NOT support: Price Point. They tried to pass off these lousy cranks as the real version. When I called them on it, they accepted the return OK, but had no explanation why they didn't state these cranks were the Japanese version. I see other companies listing these cranks as White Industries/Sugino cranks which at least is truth in advertising. If you didn't know the difference you'd put the Sugino version on your bike thinking that you had a great crank until the thing broke or bent on you (see other reviews) and you'd have no way of getting your money back from Price Point since the thing is now used and broken.Anyway, buyer beware, especially if you're thinking of buying from Price Point. They are not the type of bike people you want to be giving your money to. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ransackmtb
a Racer
from Michigan
Date Reviewed: April 18, 1999 | | Favoriate Trail: |
anything difficult. | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
Low price,,looks. | | Weaknesses: |
Cheap, shitty chainrings come with the Japanese model. | | Similar Products Used: |
Shimano LX, Shimano XT, Cook Bros. Racing. | | Bike Setup: |
Marin Indian Fire Trail/Marzocchi Z-2 BAM. (the bike is heavily customized) | | Bottom Line: | These cranks rock!!! I have thrashed the hell out of them for awhile now and have had no problems. When I ordered them, I anticipated the cheap chainrings they would come with and ordered new Avitar middle and outer rings (with slightly upsize gearing). Compared to my 98 lx cranks,,these are a little dead feeling & maybe a few grams heavier, but WAY stiffer, and can accomodate any choice of chainring. With the aftermarket rings,, these things run circles around LX/XT cranks as far as bash-ability and they don't creak at all. I ride hard in all conditions,(rocks, rain, woods mud etc...) If there were a flaw in these cranks, I would have found it by now. BTW, I have also cracked and broken Cook bros. racing cranks, and Shimano cranks and NEITHER company was of ANY help ESPECIALLY COOK BROS. My advice for a crank shopper is to go with what works solidly... not necessarily the lightest or most expensive. Save the weight in your wheels and tires where it really counts. I am waiting until Raceface comes out with a splined BB crank, so I won't spend $200 on a crank only to have the spindle interface round out after awhile. The White's are the best substitute I've found yet. I love em' and give them 4 stars minus one for the weight,,, but you can't have everything unless you pay for it!! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Garner Sutterfield
a Cross-Country Rider
from Branson MO
Date Reviewed: April 15, 1999 | | Favoriate Trail: |
Chadwick MX Park | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
cost me $50 | | Weaknesses: |
Bent after only 4 or 5 off road rides
Chainrings didn't shift as smoothly or crisply as comparable Shimano LX
Experienced more chainsuck | | Similar Products Used: |
Shimano LX
Various Sugino offerings | | Bike Setup: |
DBR HT w/ Girvin Elite, XT, USE post | | Bottom Line: | Bad choice for my new crankset. Sure, these are the $50 Japanese version, but they should have held up better. I was using LX, and needed new chainrings. I thought I'd just get a new crankset mailorder. I couldn't decide whether I should stick to Shimano or go for a slightly more custom effect with the White Industries. After 4-5 rides (and, admittedly, some big jumps) these cranks bent noticably on the drive side. I've had no similar problems beating the dog stuffing out of my old LX crankset. They never even shifted very good and, as for the custom look, all I saw was Shimano Alivio when I looked at them. I should have stuck with what works. There's no such thing as only $50. Until I can pony up for some Race Face, my next crank will be Shimano LX or XT. I'm very disappointed with these cranks. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steve
a Cross-Country Rider
from Edina, MN
Date Reviewed: April 14, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
2 Years | | Strengths: |
Good looking, absolutely rigid and great customer support. | | Weaknesses: |
Strange splintering effect on one crank arm. | | Bike Setup: |
Seven Sola ti | | Bottom Line: | I've owned this product for about two years with good performance. I was concerned however that one crank arm was developing sharp splinters in the aluminum. I contacted White Industries Via e-mail and discribed the phenomena and recieved a swift response. they kindly replaced the defective crank arm with a new one that shows no signs of the former problem. All this was done in a very timely manner. My thanks for great customer support and a great product. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Scott
a Cross-Country Rider
from St. Louis, MO
Date Reviewed: April 12, 1999 | | Duration Product Used: |
3 months | | Strengths: |
Incredibly cheap, no flex | | Weaknesses: |
Can't find any yet | | Similar Products Used: |
Shimano LX, XT | | Bike Setup: |
Klein, White SC90, FSA Ti bottom bracket | | Bottom Line: | Needed to replace the XT crank on my bike, but could'nt afford Race Face or the USA made White Ind crank. For 49.00 on closeout, I gave them a try and am extremely pleased. Sure they aren't made in the USA and have the White logo painted on but they don't cost 200.00. I've tested the USA made White's on a friend's bike and can feel the difference although the real whites are highly polished, better finished and a bit lighter. For 49.00 my only other alternative was an LX which is totally inferior to this product. Lost 1 chilis for finish and included rings, which truly suck. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rich
a cross-country rider
from San Angelo, TX
Date Reviewed: February 11, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
Man, obviously Bart from Atlanta has short-term memory problems and forgot the that the subtitle to this subject matter was Cranksets. He should start wearing his helmet when he rides since he's probably wacked his head more than once. This review group is for both cranks and cranksets. But Bart is so rigid and literal he doesn't know that. Too bad, maybe he should see a Speech Pathologist for some memory work. And, I think he likes the Sugino White Bros. Crank. Either he's lucked out and not broken rings or rides like his mamma on the trails. What a looser.
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Submitted by
Jim Dietrick
a cross-country rider
from Marin
Date Reviewed: February 4, 1999 | | Bottom Line: |
Impossible to build a better crank, period. This thing is indestructable and extrememly stiff (I weigh approx 215). White Industries sets a standard for customer relations and support as well. Extremely nice people who are very interested in the customer's satisfaction. For those of you complaining about the Sugino rings on the Japanese copy - this is a review of the WI crank - not Sugino rings - pay attention! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Andy
a downhiller
from CANADA
Date Reviewed: December 20, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I don't know what the hell everyone is talking about. The JAPAN and the USA
mad CRANKS are the same strenght. The reason why the Japan CRANKS weigh more
is because they use different aluminium. One whay or anuther they are all
treated for strenght. If they do not meet the specs, and break during test's
they throw it away. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Gregg
a cross-country rider
from Perry, Ga.
Date Reviewed: December 11, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
The ONLY real White crank is U.S. made. A real clean look, simple, extremly stiff, and yet very light. What else can you ask for. This is the third bike I've had it on and it's as great as the day I bought it! | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Steve B
a cross-country rider
from Bensalem,Pa
Date Reviewed: November 15, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I recently bought a White crankset,it's an ok product backed by people that don't give a shit about the customer! I talked with a rep and her attitude was pretty much you bought it now live with it! I'm use to dealing with the people at SYNCROS,THOMPSON,RACEFACE,AND RITCHEY! When ever I talk with anyone from these companies I'm listened to a made to feel like they care.Not so with WHITE IND.I'm hoping this crank takes a crap so I can buy one from a company that cares. Do yourself a favor DO NOT BUY WHITE buy from one of the companies I mentioned they'll treat you right! One flamin turd for the finish on the cranks, None for the pepole at White | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
bart
a
from Atlanta
Date Reviewed: November 10, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Yikes, Rich, how about reviewing the crankset and not the chainrings. Typical review on the crankset site: Yikes, the Japanese ones REALLY suck,Boy, these things shift shitty. Wake up and do a decent review. And by the way, the Japanese ones are almost flawless, you can't go wrong with these. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Rich
a cross-country rider
from San Angelo ,TX
Date Reviewed: October 7, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Yikes, the Japanese ones REALLY suck. I bent the little chainring after only a month!!!!! And the piece of crap dug into my bottom bracket shell and chainstay. Beware, don't buy this piece of useless crappola unless you want to walk back to your car and/or screw up your bike!!!!
minus 100 chillis!!!!!Rich | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Anders
a cross-country rider
from Sweden
Date Reviewed: September 17, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Beware of copies from Japan. I have owned a Team Marin '95 and had no problems with the White crankset, if it not had been stolen (The whole bike got stolen in the Frogs country. Thanks, bastard...).
Japanese White also followed with my Marin Team Issue '96 and this is crap, pure crap. The spider got slightly bend, all chainrings started waving. I went mad on this shit and improved them with a hammer. Luckily it worked.
This summer the right side also has had a tendency to get loose. I have now more or less bended the bolt as much as I can and would not like to touch the bolt again unless it isn't really necessary. There have been two other White cranks at my homeclub that had starting to loosen up and fall of. They where hopeless and their last travel headed to the trashcan. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Eric Dimmick
a cross-country rider
from California
Date Reviewed: September 8, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
These cranks truly do suck! I bought the cheap Japanese immitations and bent them to hell on the first ride. However seeing as that I can't afford anything else right now I am probably going to ride them until they break. The only reason that these cranks are remotely good is because they're cheap. BUY THE REAL ONE! not the immitation | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a downhiller
from England
Date Reviewed: July 14, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
These are excellent if you get the right ones. As you've probably worked out there are two models the sugino ones and the made in America ones....The Sugino ones suck. I have both and have had no problems with the REAL ones from America but the japanese shit I managed to bend the spider. Call me a crap rider if you love sugino that much but how come the chain rings are still in tact and BB is fine? The answer is I didn't even crash them, the cranks are crap...All it took was one ride. Splash out on the USA ones and you'll get yourself an excellent stiff smart set of cranks though the chain rings are a bit suspect....everyone I've spoken to says the same thing. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Leaf
a downhiller
from San Luis Obispo, Ca
Date Reviewed: July 2, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Just got the Sugino crankset for so cheap I decided to get a 44T race face ring. Full custom looks for a hundred bucks, and the heavy weight gives it great stiffness. My only complaint is having to file the two arms of the spider next to the crank arm to properly seat the new ring. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Bruce
a cross-country rider
from Ferndale, CA
Date Reviewed: June 30, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I have the American ones. They are forged and then machined. Raceface also makes their cranks this way. Forging is much stronger than machined billet. It aligns and compacts the metal grains. Excellent crankset, beauty and strength in one package. Shimano may have a better idea though, a forged hollow crankset. Theoretically this is the best way to make a strong but light crankset or almost anything, but how did they do it? | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
alfredo
a weekend warrior
from Atlanta
Date Reviewed: June 13, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
This is one of the best cranks out on the market. People are confused though. There is two versions of the White Industries crank. One is the American made one which is the best of the two. Then you have your cheap ass over the seas product that was made to save money for the business and consumers. You decide which one you want to get, but a few extra dollars will go a long way. Hope you pick the right choice.
Thiscrank really take a beating. I love my American made version. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
capn crunch
a weekend warrior
from Texas
Date Reviewed: May 31, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
These cranks are great. I picked up some of the US made (the good ones) for $139 with rings (OEM closeout) from cambria. They are light, and very stiff. Much stiffer than XT cranks I have(very noticeable) and even my friends XTR, although it is hard to comparte because they are on different bikes. Anyway, thes cranks have been great for the 250 miles I have put on them. I have bashed them into rocks, etc, and they don't complain. The chainrings are another story. The sugino supershift rings SUCK! they shift OK, but the middle chainring bent after only 1 1/2 month of riding. Anyway, the boys at CBO are great, they set me up with a shimano 32 tooth XT ring for cost b/c chainrings are not warrantied. Anyway, I can't wait to get the whites back on and take the XTs off. A very nice crank, especially if you don't like to attract a lot of attention with flashy anondized crap (read kooka, et al) Any way, 5 stars for the chiles for the cranks, 0 for the rings, but for $139, I still got a bargain even with no rings. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jim Dietrick
a cross-country rider
from Marin
Date Reviewed: March 24, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I weigh 230 and I have pounded these things on all sorts of sick terrain for over a year and they are simply indestructable. If a part can be broken, trust me, I'll break it. Extremely aggressive riding, clydesdale weight, smashing into rocks and roots, these things just don't care. They also are very understated in their looks, their not meant to be poser cranks like Kooka, or Cook Bros. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
David
a racer
from Dublin, OH USA
Date Reviewed: March 21, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
I love these cranks. I have the Japanese made and used to have the American made. But I had to get some money for new wheels and since they are both the stiffest cranks ever I sold the more expensive ones. I can't tell the weight difference when riding and that was the ONLY improvement over the Jap. ones.So now I have a nice wheelset and the best Crank in the world. No reason to spend the extra money so all of you that say you hate the Japanese ones but love the American cranks can quiet down. There is no difference in Performance. | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
spiff
a cross-country rider
from long Island NY
Date Reviewed: February 25, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
Only been ridin these things for a month. Came stock on my 97 homegrown esp.
They are really light and super smooth. They feel real good and I like what I see.
Again, ive only had em for a month but I know something sweet when I see it(thats why I ride a HomeGrown). They are the Japanese version but I know where all the good cars come from so I'm not upset. Lets face it. The only good American products are Jeeps, Vettes, Homegrown's, and girls. and Sam Adam's beer | | Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jason Bickel
a weekend warrior
from West Des Moines, IA
Date Reviewed: February 23, 1998 | | Bottom Line: |
The Sugino-made cranks came stock on my '96 Marin Rocky Ridge. I have to admit I was dissapointed to find out Sugino made these, but I don't know if it makes much differenct. I don't have any major complaints. I have bent the spiders out of whack a number of times (straightened with a rubber mallet), but I tend to be a little rough on my chainrings (grinding over logs). Overall seem to be a decent crankset. | |
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$ 200.00
