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Submitted by
Gerbil1976
a Cross Country Rider
from United Kingdom
Date Reviewed: August 1, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Cwmcarn | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$260.00 | | Purchased At: | The Big Adventure (S | | Strengths: | Boy do they do the business. Looks great too. | | Weaknesses: | Not possible to buy the brake with a specific coloured rotor. Hmmm..., why not? | | Similar Products Used: | Hope C2s and Hayes 9s | | Bike Setup: | Marin Rock Springs | | Bottom Line: | Where do I start? Great looks, incredible braking power which projects confidence in every way. Almost no squealing after the initial bedding in but incredible braking from the outset. They just seem like the way brakes should be - preventative medicine!
I'm sure there are other just-as-good or better brakes out there; these are the kiddies for me. Given that I've only had them a month and it's always possible they may go wrong, I'll stop short of a 5 chilli rating. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
keeweesteathfreerider
a Downhiller
from New Zealand
Date Reviewed: July 2, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Lava flow | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$320.00 | | Purchased At: | TradeMe | | Strengths: | Amazing power!
absolutly brilliant!
Great Modulation!
Easy(ish) to bleed!
| | Weaknesses: | Took some time to get it working properly but it was mainly the bike shop in my opinion.
| | Similar Products Used: | Avid BB7, Avid hrydraulics, Shimano xt 4 pot, Teriko cables. | | Bike Setup: | Keewee Stealth
| | Bottom Line: | These brakes are the best brakes ive ever used! Don't bother with anyother brake like hayes 9 or avid juicys 3s.
I highly recomend these brakes to anyone if you want to stop quickly!
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Submitted by
PT
a
from Durango, CO
Date Reviewed: February 18, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$480.00 | | Purchased At: | bike shop | | Strengths: | '06 M4's here. great feel - great power - great modulation - dangerboy levers really make these brakes top notch | | Weaknesses: | expensive
the reseviour top-cap bolts allen holes strip easily. hope has replaced the allen screw with a torx screw on the new ones, so I upgraded to those for $10.
they're now 35 grams heavier than the new '08 M4's.
don't use ebc xc pads on these brakes! | | Similar Products Used: | hayes hayes hayes, avid, magura | | Bike Setup: | Supermoto FR/DH | | Bottom Line: | As soon as I put these brakes on my bike I was super stoked! It's two years later and I'm still stoked on them! I have the old style Juicy's ('06) on another bike, and my friends have just about everything elese on the market. Some brakes are lighter, some have as much stopping power, but the hope's just blow them all away in feel / modulation. And they always feel exactly the same! That's why I love these so much. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
zac x
a
from England
Date Reviewed: February 4, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$230.00 | | Purchased At: | Chain reaction cycles | | Strengths: | Stopping power ! looks & quality | | Weaknesses: | instructions are weak and cable is just long enough. | | Similar Products Used: | - | | Bike Setup: | Custom T45 frame , Marzocchi 2006 junior t's , hope pro'2 hubs on mavic rims. | | Bottom Line: | This brake fitted with a 203mm floating disc will lock a wheel up regardless of speed or conditions !
I was amazed at the shear power it had and how volatile a break could be.
Although cost is rather high for what your getting i would recommend 100 % | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dale Newman
a Weekend Warrior
from Holland
Date Reviewed: December 10, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Passport du soleil | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Purchased At: | ebay | | Strengths: | Looks great. Haven't found a better looking model. | | Weaknesses: | Squeals like a piggy! Difficult to set up. Dissapointing brake power for a 4 pot caliper. | | Similar Products Used: | Hope Mini 165mm. Magura HS33/22. Hayes Stroker Ryde 180/160. | | Bike Setup: | Santa Cruz Heckler 2006. M4 front, Mini rear. RS Pike 95/140. 5th element coil. Sram. Built up as 'all mountain'. | | Bottom Line: | The M4 brake looks super and functions well as a xc brake, but really dissapointed me in the mountains. I didn't need a bell to warn people of my approach if you know what i mean! What a terrible sqealer it is. What's more, i've never been able to find out what the problem is/was. Of course, if your brake squeals so bad, it's not delivering the power either (with all that movement/vibration).I've tried it all. Washers, frasing the fork, copperslip behind the pads..... you name it , i've tried it. Even Hope don't have the answers. A Hope machanic in Les Gets had a good go at it too and gave up... twise! Hope Benelux's advise was, "keep off the brakes"!". Well, that just about raps it up. I have kept off the brakes. I've sold them and bought a set of Hayes Strokers! Until now they work perfectly! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a Downhiller
from Surrey/Kent Engalnd
Date Reviewed: July 17, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | With bike - standard | | Strengths: | Very powerful once bedded in! | | Weaknesses: | None yet. Work extremely well for me. Yet i kno you either love them or hate them. I love them | | Similar Products Used: | HFX-9, HFX -5 | | Bike Setup: | 24/7 Dark Angel DH1 | | Bottom Line: | If you get a good set, you will love them like me. Very very powerful with very good modulation. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
LanceMan
a Downhiller
from CA
Date Reviewed: July 5, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$425.00 | | Purchased At: | oniline | | Strengths: | As another poster said, I can't believe all the negetive reviews are legit. Is someone trying to lower the M4 ratings on MTBR? We've seen this before on MTBR. Most of those posts exhibit the same writing style. Curious. If I were grading them, I'd say they were all copied from the same student!
I LOVE my M4's! Yes, the rotors are little thin, but I just replaced them with Formula rotors. I've NEVER had a problem with these brakes! | | Weaknesses: | The '06 standard rotors are a bit thin, but upgrading is easy enough. Of course, this adds to the cost. | | Similar Products Used: | I have Formula K24's on my trail bike - another great brake. I used Avid BB7's back in the day - on ALL my bikes. Then went to the Hayes HFX. I had '06 Juicy 7's for a week, then swapped to M4's. | | Bike Setup: | VPFree, 888 | | Bottom Line: | The Hope M4's have been great for me. They were no more difficult to install than any other disc brake system - and I've installed a great number of brakes over the past decade for friends.
As for performance, I love them! Because of thier fantastic modulation, it was a no-brainer choice over the Juicy 7's. As mentioned, I also love the K24's on my trail bike, but I still prefer the lever feel of the M4's. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John DeCorsey
a Weekend Warrior
from Portland, Or
Date Reviewed: April 23, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Forrest | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | On Line | | Strengths: | Light and nice finish. When they work they have very good lever feel and modulation. | | Weaknesses: | Leaks at the joints, Low power output. Also the pistons do not retract properly especially on the rear giving dragging pads and overheating. I have warped my rear rotor so much I had to get a new one. Rotors are on the whispy side. | | Similar Products Used: | Magura Marta, Shimano XT, Hayes HFX9. | | Bike Setup: | Specialized Epic | | Bottom Line: | I think the issue I have with this brake model is quality control. It's kind of lacking. The ingredients are all there but the final package has a lot of problems and I guess there is a variance in the quality. My experiences continue to be bad for all the reasons I've said in the weaknesses and I just cannot get on top of it. It gets expensive to maintain this brake and it was no bargain basement item to start out with. I am looking to maybe get some Formula Oro's. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Des Williamson
a Weekend Warrior
from U.K
Date Reviewed: April 19, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Penmachno | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | Merlin | | Strengths: | Light | | Weaknesses: | Hassle to fit, low power levels, I get them set up to work well but they always tail off. Rotors warp. | | Bottom Line: | I'd like more consistency from these .....more power and less prima donna problems.
Rotor problems include warping and a tendency to bend very easily and they are impossible to true up properly.
They go off tune very quickly and give a wooden feel with less power than is acceptable for this classification of brake. Basically Hope is overated stuff. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Al Cribbins
a Weekend Warrior
from Ontario, Canada
Date Reviewed: April 15, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Light. | | Weaknesses: | Pistons stick, the system is underpowered and set up is a difficult process. | | Bottom Line: | Yeah well maybe these are great brakes. I look for more power from a 4 pot brake system than I get from these. The Hope modulation magic has been easily matched by other brake companies and beaten on power. They have given me hassle with fitting, dragging pistons most particularly on the rear and warped rotors which are very thin. I have now fitted Formula Oro's, with the same rotor diameter as the M4 that I have taken off, and the power has doubled. Hey and that's with just 2 pot brakes. Kind of tells you something don't it? | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Greg Evans
a Weekend Warrior
from U.K
Date Reviewed: April 8, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | 7 Stanes | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | Chain Reaction | | Strengths: | Light | | Weaknesses: | Lazy pistons, Poor power, overheating, stock pads stink and the whole system is so unreliable. | | Bottom Line: | This is a brake system that needs some serious attention because it suffers badly from a lack of reliability.
The discs are not well made and they warp. They warp because the pistons are prone to regular sticking, drag on the discs and so the brakes overheat. The brakes overheat so the system is prone to pump up and loses power. The discs need to be constantly re-aligned which is a labourious job involving messing about with shims....read washers. It's just not good enough.
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Submitted by
Sammy Caldridge
a Weekend Warrior
from Canada
Date Reviewed: March 24, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | Mail Order | | Strengths: | Pimpy nad low weight. Plenty of modulation. | | Weaknesses: | Pain to install, pain to adjust, a pain to bed in and a pain to maintain in good working order. | | Bottom Line: | Glossy looking brakes. Performance doesn't match it. Nothing is easy with these brakes...from installation, adjustment, bedding in time to leaks at the banjo joints, not so good stock pad choice and sticking pistons. When I get the chance I will replace these and sell them. No doubt from these reviews there are plenty of people who will bid for them on Ebay. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
calrider805
a Downhiller
from San Luis Obispo
Date Reviewed: March 16, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$240.00 | | Purchased At: | The Texas branch | | Strengths: | strength, modulation, light, machined, one-piece caliper, 4 pistons, seems very high quality all around | | Weaknesses: | none yet other than $$$$ | | Similar Products Used: | Avid mechs, Avid Juicy 7's | | Bike Setup: | VP-Free, Fox 40, Diabolous, Hope, Hadley, SRAM... | | Bottom Line: | I bought the M4 Mono for the rear after recovering from the financial hit I took from buying the Hope Mono M6 for the front!! Which was about 300 plus the 250 I paid for this... das some expensive brakes!! How does one justify spending over 500 dollars on brakes alone? By getting in return extremely high quality-feeling brakes that have all the modulation and power you want to the point where I just ride faster now. Straight up. Knowing you can get on the brakes and get tons of solid power or feather and get finite responsiveness and control makes you want to push it farther and is confidence-inspiring. Got the "floating" rotors and ss lines f&r so it is a sick setup. Mono style levers, not the new "moto"s. NO sign of fade yet but will not really know until I go to BC this summer ;). Takes a bit to get used to the range of modulation vs. the sort of on-off feeling my Juicy 7's had.
I'm still braking these in, the front is about 6 rides in, the rear 3, and they are still getting more powerful it feels... we'll see how it goes.... as long as I don't have any mechanical problems like I've been reading about below this feels like a brake I will loooooove and have for a loooooong time.
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Submitted by
Borat
a
from Khazakstan
Date Reviewed: March 11, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Ae | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Light and bling bling | | Weaknesses: | Rotors bend and warp as they are fragile.
The front heats up too much.
My back brake always gets grit in it and the pistons stick. | | Similar Products Used: | Hayes and Avid. | | Bike Setup: | Specialized Enduro | | Bottom Line: | This is a finicky brake and needs attention. But my main gripe is that the rotors are so so fragile. As a freeride brake it needs metal on the rotors and what makes things worse for me is that I get a lot of times when one or more pistons drag on the rotors creating a lot of heat. I have bent and warped 2 of these rotors on the front and bent 2 on the back.....Expensive!! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mark Nicholls
a Cross Country Rider
from Shropshire
Date Reviewed: March 6, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | ?? | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$320.00 | | Purchased At: | www.wiggle.com | | Strengths: | extreamly sharp | | Weaknesses: | ?? | | Similar Products Used: | ?? | | Bike Setup: | Carrera Banshee | | Bottom Line: | I think the Hope M4 07 disc are really good because I like the way they are really sharp but sometimes a bit to sharp but I surpose you have to get used to them. I bought the floating disc and ss braided hose and they are awsome. I love the way the disc has a kwl pattern around the edge not like the wavey disc. Overall this is are really good buy so pick these brakes. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jon Ballarde
a Weekend Warrior
from Portland, Oregon
Date Reviewed: March 4, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Forrest Park | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | 4 Pots gives good modulation pretty much all of the time.
Nice CNC finish and a variety of insert colors. Very low weight. | | Weaknesses: | Tricky set up proceedure and difficult and messy adjustments. Stock pads could be better. Pistons tend to stick and sometimes drag badly. Rotors are on the thin side and both warp and bend with amazing ease. On lomg descents I need to feather the front brakes or else they overheat. | | Similar Products Used: | Old Hope Mini (very good). Hayes HFX 9 (O.K.). Shimano XT (good) Magura Marta Sl (excellent but rotor too thin) | | Bike Setup: | Giant ATX 900/Marzocchi/Mavic/Hope/Easton/WTB 2.24 Motoraptors. | | Bottom Line: | I hate to rain in on the parade but My M4's have not been the perfect, reliable and strong braking units that a lot of Guys here are saying. For a start setting these babies up so they work like they should takes some time and maybe it is no big deal ( so long as you have the facing tool) but you have got to put the time in to get the performance out. And that kind of sets the scene for the rest of the way they work as mine do need constant attention. Couple that with having to replce the front and back rotor....front one fried and warped, back one I hit on a rock and it bent like it was made from paper mache. They are kind of weight-saving light. Stock pads can be improved on and you got to run these with braided hoses to get performance. Plenty of modulation but the pistons stick all the time. I mean that I never get a week without a sticking piston no matter how many times I strip and clean them. Kind of gets me down. This is no bargain basement brake either so all in all I am not knocked out with these. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Phil Crawley
a Weekend Warrior
from U.K
Date Reviewed: March 2, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Glentress Black | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | Merlin | | Strengths: | Lightweight, nice design to look at and, when working, excellent modulation. | | Weaknesses: | Inconsistent, always pad drag, overheating, poor stock pads, Stupid design of pad retention pin, rotors warp, expensive and requires a lot of maintenance. | | Similar Products Used: | Brake products from Hayes, Formula and Magura. | | Bike Setup: | Marin Wolf Ridge | | Bottom Line: | I have had so much trouble with this brake system that I cannot recommend it. The quality control on this product is inadequate and the result is a hit and miss brake. Some riders have a good brake and others have a pile of problems like me. It's also expensive and I assocciate expense with performance. I have had to ditch this brake and bought some Formula Oro K24 brakes... which although not a 4 pot Freeride brake is more powerful than this and more reliable. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
R S
a Downhiller
from Central AZ
Date Reviewed: January 20, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$450.00 | | Purchased At: | Monk-a-moo.com | | Strengths: | This review is for 2006 model year, with aftermarket DangerBoy levers installed - a must have upgrade in my opinion. 203mm/185mm.
Modulation is fantastic. Stopping power is great. Easy to install. Easy to bleed. Survived several rock garden crashes. Other than tearing a resevior membrane upon reintallation (my fault) I've had no problems at all!
I actually installed them inside a tent while it was pouring rain in the Telluride campground - far from ideal conditions - and the process was a snap. I cut the hose, bled them, the whole works, in the tent! I later changed hoses and bled them again - alone! Cake!
First ride was in a serious mountain rain storm - fire road up, then long fast soaking wet DH. The pads were completely bedded-in by the end of the ride and have never, ever squeeled.
The DangerBoy levers are a HUGE improvement - true one-finger stopping! | | Weaknesses: | Expensive unless you find a deal - but as always, you get what you pay for. Check Monk-a-Moo.com - great service!
I do NOT understand why there are a handfull of reviewers here who have had such inconsistently negetive experiences with these seemingly excellent brakes. Oddly, they all posted in the same general time frame. I'm suspicious of this... | | Similar Products Used: | Hayes HFX, El Camino, Magura Marta, Juicy 7's. While each of these has something to offer (except the HFX), in my experience and opinion, none compare with the M4's in overall performance. | | Bike Setup: | Titus Supermoto 7"x7", FR / DH setup. 39 lbs w/ 2.7" DH tires, 35 lbs w/ AM tires. | | Bottom Line: | I LOVE these brakes. Modulation is excellent and intuitive. Action is smooth. Stopping power has thus far never been a concern, even in DH race conditions. I weigh about 180, plus 40lb bike.
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Submitted by
Timish horbay
a Downhiller
from edmonton alberta canada
Date Reviewed: September 1, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | schleyer | | Duration Product Used: | More than 3 years | | Price Paid: |
$650.00 | | Purchased At: | united | | Strengths: | Good stopping power, when they work
pads lasted 3 years
good modulation
no noise | | Weaknesses: | when they start to die, it is not subtle, they just die
try and find parts
pads cost too much | | Similar Products Used: | hayes (all of them), hope mono m4, shimano deore, xt and saint, magura gustav, avid juicy7 | | Bike Setup: | bullit, boxxer team, xt drivetrain, fsa cranks, mavic deetrax wheels | | Bottom Line: | good when they work, but they only work on occasion. They are really hard to maintain because the parts are rare and expensive. But, if you take good care to properly look after your brakes, they will reward you with better than average stopping power. If you ignore them, they will bite back. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Simon Potter
a
from England
Date Reviewed: July 4, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Bottom Line: | Opps review below was for the M4 mono not the older M4's
sorry. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Simon Potter
a Weekend Warrior
from England
Date Reviewed: July 2, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | QECP Hampshire,Afan forest in Wales | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Purchased At: | Came standard on bike | | Strengths: | Loads of power,great modulation,quiet,no rubbing or squealing even after a few hundred miles on them,they've been subjected to loads of mud rides and recently lots of dry rides and there's been no noticeable pad wear,running 200mm floating front rotor and 180mm floating rear rotor,
they have a nice pinging noise as they cool down but they've stayed nice and true.
Looking at the prices out there they also appear to be great value for what you get. | | Weaknesses: | None so far | | Similar Products Used: | Formula B4 & B4sl
Hope mini's, Hope mono mini's, Hayes HFX 9's. | | Bike Setup: | Whyte 46 (06 model) | | Bottom Line: | Great stoppers,excellent modulation,low weight for 4 pots,very reliable and quiet,great looking especially with floating rotors that come in cool colours,you can also swap out the bore caps and cylinder caps for coloured ones,currently running red rotor spiders with red bore caps,
just adds that little extra to a mighty fine brake system. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Nick Irwin
a Cross Country Rider
from Bristol, England, UK
Date Reviewed: April 18, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | Hanham Woods | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | Somewhere online | | Strengths: | Power in the wet (stock pads) | | Weaknesses: | Rubbish out of the box for dry rides. Stock hope pads are for wet weather use only - fine in the UK where its wet, but i dont ride in the wet. | | Similar Products Used: | None | | Bike Setup: | 2002 Trek 6700, uprated to XT/Fox Float RLC. | | Bottom Line: | Upgraded from V's to M4's on the front. Was really disappointed. Power in the dry was pathetic - however, wet
rides were incredible. Changed the pads to EBC reds, and wow, 100% improvement - they actually worked in the dry.
Then the next problem - heat. Coming down a long downhill, i managed to boil the brake fluid. So bled the system and put in Castol SRX racing brake fluid. never looked back - these babies now rival 6pot Ti's.
Can stop from 35Mph to zero in less than 8 metres. Actually winded myself doing it. Deceleration is like hitting a brick wall. i love them now.
Seriously, tune them and you'll love them even more. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Scott Conner
a Racer
from Highlands Ranch
Date Reviewed: April 9, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | Porcupine Rim | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$450.00 | | Purchased At: | Mojo Wheels | | Strengths: | Not only is it a beautifully machined brake it works better than any other brake I have used. It has incredible modulation allowing you to power into the corners and brake without skidding. Thus minimizing front wheel washouts and increasing your control at high speed. | | Weaknesses: | The only weakness I can say is it is not the easiest brake to setup but it is worth the time to do it right. Price but you get what you pay for... | | Similar Products Used: | Hydro XT,XTR, Hayes, Juicy 5 and 7 and Avid mechanicals. | | Bike Setup: | Rocky Mountian Element. Sram XO, Hope brakes, Chris King wheels, Fox suspension. | | Bottom Line: | Bottom line is that I have two other bikes that I ride and the first thing that I notice when I get on it is that the braking is not as good as the Hope brakes. Say what you want about shifting and crankes but a top quality set of brakes is worth the money. I cant wait till I can get another set on my other bikes. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Sam Samaha
a Weekend Warrior
from Phoenix, AZ USA
Date Reviewed: March 16, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | back yard | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$580.00 | | Purchased At: | LBS | | Strengths: | Frighteningly good brakes! They'll launch you of your bike if you hit them too hard! CNC workmanship (in the UK) is second place to none. Good customer service. 2-piece rotors are kick ass. | | Weaknesses: | Costly.. I paid $580 to get the M6ti's and these M4's installed. | | Similar Products Used: | Shimano Saint / XTR | | Bike Setup: | Here, see for yourself: http://homepage.mac.com/sjsamaha/PhotoAlbum39.html | | Bottom Line: | These are must have brakes for the "Spare no expense" bike build. Forget Avid, Shimano and Hayes.. they're all second rate compared to these monsters. I live at the top of 1/4 mile steep hill and I ride down frequently to ride the local trails.. that ride down the hill with normal brakes would be scary at best, and dangerous at worse with poor brakes.. but with these, I can ride the brakes the the whole way down and experience no, repeat no brake fade or over heating.. even in Phoenix AZ temps. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Eric Smith
a Weekend Warrior
from Colorado Springs Co
Date Reviewed: March 10, 2006 | | Favorite Trail: | House Rock | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$400.00 | | Purchased At: | Online | | Strengths: | The brakes themselves! | | Weaknesses: | NONE!!! | | Bottom Line: | These Brakes are smooth and very responsive! I recomend them to anyone who wants to stop dead in thier tracks! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Kelly W
a Weekend Warrior
from Sydney
Date Reviewed: July 6, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$180.00 | | Purchased At: | www.chainreactioncycles.com | | Strengths: | Stopping power, modulation, reach adjustment, pre-bleed. | | Weaknesses: | No lever pivot adjustment, inconsistent seal quality. | | Similar Products Used: | Hayes Cable disc | | Bike Setup: | DMR Sidekick frame, trailstar fork, mavic 321 rim, Chris King rear hub, hope M4 185mm front and rear. | | Bottom Line: | ONe finger stopping power, I mostly rely on the front for stopping, the rear is for doing rear wheel hops when doing trials. They do pump up just a little bit in summer, the reach adjustment compensates a little.
Fitting was easy, put the brake on the disc, hold down the lever, put shims between the caliper and the disc tab, put screws in , tighten and off you go.
My fronts only had one rebleeding in two years, but the rears has been leaking ever since the first month, the fluid just oozes from the pistons slowly, so won't be a problem when riding, only happening during the night when you leave it standing still.
Very satisfied, should be considered over all other if you have just that little extra dough ($20 over the Hayes) | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Geoff
a
from Sydney
Date Reviewed: July 4, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | value, looks, power, reliability | | Weaknesses: | i cant buy another brake... | | Similar Products Used: | hayes | | Bike Setup: | klein palomino -> foes inferno | | Bottom Line: | if you see a set of hope brakes then get them!! i finally serviced my brakes this year by changing the hoses to use steel braid after one finally split in transport. otherwise i just change my pads every year and they keep working!
some people i know complain about brake pump... well they are just too slow. i dont get brake pump and i wait for them at the bottom of the trails.
does squeal a bit, but then just sand your pads back... done in 5 mins
all in all one quality peice of kit that has outlasted one bike and im guessing many more! | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Per
a
from Sweden
Date Reviewed: March 30, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Price Paid: |
$300.00 | | Purchased At: | cyclecomponents | | Strengths: | Function.Modulation.Durability.Simplicity in design(no worries)Parker hose.DOT brake fluid.Cheap spares if needed.Long life on pads.Looks like it is custom made just for me,sweet finish. | | Weaknesses: | None yet.
Heavy?If you care.
Probably one of the last HOPEs with outstanding finish,the hunt for pennies goes on. | | Bottom Line: | Buy them if you want quality. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Francis
a Cross Country Rider
from California
Date Reviewed: February 14, 2005 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$215.00 | | Strengths: | Looks great, feels strong (8" rotor), modulates superb, quiet when dry | | Weaknesses: | none (yet) | | Similar Products Used: | mini mono | | Bike Setup: | hardtail, Z1 | | Bottom Line: | good stuff
big thumbs up. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Scott
a Downhiller
from Syracuse, NY
Date Reviewed: December 29, 2004 | | Favorite Trail: | Whistler or Plattekill | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Strengths: | 1) Power: The power is phenomemal. I'm 240lbs. and I ride steep chutes and long downhills fast, and I have never had a need to brake with more than one finger. Hand fatigue has never been an issue. There are some long and super steep rock faces on a couple of the trails at Whistler (Whistler Downhill & Joyride if I recall correctly). Two years ago with my Bullit and the Hope M4's I easily controlled my speed and made my way |
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$ 240.00
