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Submitted by
CrashPanda
a Weekend Warrior
from Chengdu (Sichuan, China) Date Reviewed: November 7, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Local hills | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$450.00 | | Purchased At: | UniversalCycles | | Strengths: | Lever action, ease of adjustment (once bled properly!!), modulation, serious power. | | Weaknesses: | Standard hoses.. Picky on caliper alignment on rear. Factory bleeding. | | Similar Products Used: | Shimano XT & XTR, Juicy 7, Formula Oro | | Bike Setup: | Giant Reign 2008 18" w/Fox RP23, XTR drivetrain, RockShox Pike 426, Easton/RaceFace/KCNC hardware, Mavic 819, Avid Code 2008 stoppers (203 front, 185 rear) | | Bottom Line: | Before ranting about bleeding; Good Brakes. And now to the not-so-great -part...
Read all the available reviews, listened to the comments, bought the brakes... and hit nearly all the listed bleeding-related glitches. More air than (contaminated)fluid in the system out of the box. Doing things with Avid bleeding kit by the book isn't exactly enough, to my experience. In order to get the air properly out from the system, turning & tapping the calipers to avoid air pockets does the trick, along with using both bleeding screws to properly bleed the caliper. No issues with banjo or levers. Although, checking the proper installation of reservoir diaphgram & bolt tightness of reservoir cover is a good idea. Also, to get the best out of the pad contact adjustment, bled the system with adjustment dialled fully in - contrary to the manual -> able to adjust into really 'tight' setting with short reach.
Adjusting the front was a no-issue. No drag, just power. Rear was a little more tricky; the pad contact has to be spot-on in order to avoid the cry of the wild pigs. Required some riding, tweaking, more riding and some more tweaking.
Once set, I nearly forgot that I even have brakes. I just think about speed, distance and line. Power is rather impressive, and luckily, so is the modulation, although I expect the modulation to become a bit 'stiffer' once I change the hoses to Goodridge ones. The standard hoses are... well, crap for reasons too numerous to be described here.
A special mention about the levers. Once everything was done, the feeling was nearly as good as with Formula brakes, which usually have more or less excellent feel. Code standadrd lever is wider, though, which has proven more comfortable on longer downhill sections (using 1-finger braking).
5 chilis for working set-up, 4 overall for all the bleeding to get there. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
taw69
a Weekend Warrior
from Israel Date Reviewed: October 21, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$320.00 | | Purchased At: | beyondBikes | | Strengths: | extreemely powerfull! But with great modulation once you get used to there power.. Levers are verry well desinged-and strong! Contact adjustment is great too. Look RAD!!! | | Weaknesses: | Arrived new out of box - with air in system(despite claiming to be pre-bled)Constantly need bleeding! somehow air keeps getting in them - no matter how well I bleed them, by the book! | | Similar Products Used: | Mech.disk,and mostly Hayes nine. | | Bike Setup: | Kona Coiler, and Kona Stink Supreme | | Bottom Line: | Read the reviews before I bought them- said to my self,bleed problems? I'm A mechanic- no problem will bleed them properly and then have no more fuss...
But problems started as soon as i installed them! didnt shorten the hoses to be safe, but still they were soft(lever to the bars)right out of box!!! so I got A bleed kit- followed the instructions on Avids site - and they worked amazingly!...for one ride. then were soft again.
Now I have to bleed them every weekend before i ride. not what I expected of such A quality product to say the least..
Bottom Line: if your not mechanical minded-or have a lot of money to spend at your LBS, get something more reliable!!!
I'm still looking for A solution to these problems, as otherwise i love these brakes...will update review if i find one.
1 chili for value - as I feel cheated....
4 chilis for overall - as they are great when they work! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Stu
a Downhiller
from Chapel Hill Date Reviewed: October 12, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Powerline | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$300.00 | | Strengths: | Once you bed them in, they stop you ridiculously well. These things are like the Mercedes of brakes; kiss arm pump goodbye, because you'll never have it again! Aside from some HOPE 6-piston brakes (who needs 6 pistons to stop, anyway??), you're not going to find better brakes out there. They look cool, too. Even if you think white won't look cool on your bike, it will. It makes them stand out and actually provides a neat contrast. | | Weaknesses: | *BLEED THESE THINGS THE FIRST TIME YOU GET THEM!!* Save yourself a lot of frustration and just have your local bike shop bleed your brakes or just do it yourself. My front brake had lever reach problems every time I tried to adjust the brake to stop rubbing. Whenever I would do that, the brake lever would be all the way at the handlebar and wouldn't even be stopping me. I took it to the bike shop to find that there was a huge bubble of air in my system. Once he got that out and re-bled them, the front brake was amazing! It won't rub at all and I barely even need to squeeze it to get my bike to stop (which is the way I like it). Once you bleed your brakes, every problem you'll have with these will be gone.
Also, the brake lines are relatively big, especially the front. You'll definitely want to be cutting them down. I forgot to cut mine when I got mine bled. | | Bottom Line: | Get them! Just bleed them when you get them. You'll never regret it! I gave these a 4 for overall rating because you have to spend more money and bleed them :( | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Iceman2058
a Weekend Warrior
from Israel Date Reviewed: August 31, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$450.00 | | Strengths: | Awesome power, great lever feel, easy to set up and maintain. | | Weaknesses: | Slightly grabby. | | Similar Products Used: | Avid Juicy 3, Juicy 5, Hayes Nine | | Bike Setup: | Enduro SL, Halo Freedom Rims, Minion DHF/R, Truvativ Shiftguide, RaceFace bash, SRAM PC990/991 cassette/chain, Hope Pro II rear hub | | Bottom Line: | If you are looking for a very powerful brake that won't fade or overheat, look no further. The lever feel is very solid, the adjustability is great, although the modulation can be a little bit too much on the stop-go side (but you get used to it quickly). They are also very easy to set up. I got lucky with the factory bleed...no issues here, 3 months down the line. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
bikemuscle
a Downhiller
from Los Alamitos, CA 90720 Date Reviewed: August 25, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | A Line Whistler | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Strengths: | stopping power | | Weaknesses: | they heat up, I burn through pads in about a month in the summer when I'm doing a lot of DH trips.
Pads ware unevenly, and they are noisy. | | Bike Setup: | 2008 V10 888 RC3WC, Sunline direct mount stem, Dirty 30 bars, DT440/EX729, Nevegal 2.7 front 2.5 rear. Sram XO OCT, LG1 taco, DHX 5.0, Pure V seat/cromo rails. Thomson seat post, pd-m647 pedals 43lbs | | Bottom Line: | This review is for the 07 model.
I'm buying the 09 saints as soon as I get the cash. I already sent these in for warranty and Sram simply sent me a new set but I had to go through my bike shop. If you send something to them next day they will return it to you the same way. My new set is doing the same thing, and I'm still going through pads too quickly. I guess my weight of 230lbs and my bikes weight of 43lbs is too much for these. Also I tried calling Sram for a small pin the other day and they said I must go through my shop. Get these if your a little guy or for cross country. High maintenance for a heavier DH rider. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
kjahn
a Weekend Warrior
from Lawrence, KS Date Reviewed: August 20, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Moab-Fruita | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$200.00 | | Purchased At: | online | | Strengths: | all the stopping power you need | | Weaknesses: | must be bled and aligned perfectly | | Similar Products Used: | avid juicy | | Bike Setup: | '05 Santa Cruz VP-Free | | Bottom Line: | These are great brakes but you must bleed them (even if new) and align them perfectly. I had the same squeal and lever to the bar probelms until I did this. Watch the vid on youtube for the bleed process. Put your bike in a stand for caliper alignment so you can spin the wheels really fast. No problems now for the last 10 months. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
willi droppants
a Downhiller
from montreal Date Reviewed: August 14, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | bromont | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$225.00 | | Purchased At: | local hustler | | Strengths: | galiper lever looks | | Weaknesses: | the copany itself the hose is is the cheapest on the market | | Similar Products Used: | grimeca basano system 16 | | Bike Setup: | none of your bizz | | Bottom Line: | top perfomanc top price if money is not an issue then this should doo just fine olthought organic pads use up much quicker they provide a sticky feel as of the metal pads gives more of a glide feeling they also last longer and cost more but they can also bee noisi all in all very good braks only the hose is the disapointement i guesse it represents the company values | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
lojack13
a Weekend Warrior
from Ohio Date Reviewed: July 22, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Alum Creek P1 & P2 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$375.00 | | Purchased At: | Bike Doctor | | Strengths: | Extremely easy set up, awesome stopping power, no squealing, great through the muddy stuff. | | Weaknesses: | None so far. | | Similar Products Used: | Hayes HFX 9, Avid BB7, Hayes El Camino | | Bike Setup: | 07 Mongoose Black Diamond Triple, Fox DHX 5.0, Totem Solo Air, Avid Codes, Azonic Outlaw wheels, super sick, do everything, bike. | | Bottom Line: | I have tried several other hydro brakes and they all have been O.K. But the Codes are bar none the best damn brakes I have ever put on my bike. I keep seeing people writing about the crappy brake pads, I have put about 100 miles of all-mountain and downhill on these and they are still fine. I also read that people are whining about the hoses, again I don't see any problems with them. The contact pad adjustment and lever reach is awesome, and they DO work and stay in place unlike the hayes el caminos adjustments. These brakes never squeal, when you go through soupy stuff the make tad bit of noise and then they're right back to normal in seconds. Easy set up as mentioned above, Hayes brakes suck on set up, they always rub in one spot no matter what you do. The Codes are a little pricey, but well worth every penny. I would recommend these brakes to anyone, from the XC biker to the Downhiller. If you're getting any brakes set, I would recommend sticking with Avid. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Auryn Zimmer
a Weekend Warrior
from bay area, california Date Reviewed: May 5, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | most of them | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$500.00 | | Purchased At: | jenson | | Strengths: | when they are working, they are great. good modulation, big range of adjustability, good power. super easy to install | | Weaknesses: | bad seals. weak looking hoses. fragile organic pads. avid's customer service policies suck! | | Similar Products Used: | Hope Mono Minis | | Bike Setup: | ventana el saltamontes with vanilla fork and dhx 5 coil shock. | | Bottom Line: | I had to return both front and rear on different occasions. The brakes are very sensitive to change: either atmospheric, temperature or something. They will feel fine one day on the trail and the next day the lever will go right to the bar, requiring reach/pad contact point adjustment and/or lots of bleeds. I had to return the rear brake when I could no longer bleed it. apparently it got some obstruction somewhere in the system between the caliper and the lever, and fluid could not be pushed up to the lever from the caliper. If your brake is all spongy AND you can't bleed it to fix that, you're SOL - waited 3 weeks for Avid to send me a new one. additionally once they get up to heat they change again. once they are at normal running temperature they seem to work consistently.
recently I went to test out bike pre-ride and the front lever went all the way to the bar - when I messed with the pad contact adjustment, my hand came away all wet with brake fluid. To test my theory that the seals had failed, I started to bleed it. The fluid coming out of the caliper was black and and endless stream of air came out - no longer a closed system... since I have noticed some degree of black stuff in the fluid coming out of the system on all bleeds I have to conclude that the seals in the brakes are crap and they have been slowly degrading into the fluid the whole time until the front one finally totally failed. So now I have to send that back to Avid and wait around to ride off road.
furthermore, Avid's policies concerning customer relations are very dissatisfying. They refuse to deal directly with the end-user, only with the retailer. And they badmouth the consumers - making comments about my supposed lack of mechanical skills or understanding. How can you say something like that to someone you don't even know?
For a set of top of the line brakes that cost over $500, I am very disappointed. bad seals are probably due to some manufacturing error from cutting costs in some chinese factory. perhaps this is just my bad luck and I happened to get 2 of a batch of brakes that got the wrong seals. cheap, thin plastic hoses that don't look like they could withstand more than 1 crash - for $500 I'd like to see some braided stainless lines or at least kevlar reinforced. I have to say, that while the Hope brakes I rode in the past suffered from their own set of problems (way too little power for my riding style, tendency to overheat and fade, incredibly frustrating to install with no concave/convex self centering washers), as far as quality goes - they were top notch. and they came with some really nice stuff like braided stainless lines, floating disc rotors, etc.
hopefully Avid can do something to improve my opinion of them, especially since they are part of the whole SRAM/rockshox/Truvativ group. When they look bad, they make all of those other products look suspect to me.
who should buy this product? I'm not sure. Maybe I just had bad luck? If so, people who should buy this brake are people that need a lot of brake power and resistance to fade. ie: if you are riding a lot of long sustained descents. otherwise they are overkill. I think the reason I got them was because my Hopes suffered so much from fade/overheat problems (which also lead to very noisy squealing) that I wanted to make sure that never happened again. Which admittedly is my fault for riding cross-country brakes on trails that require something bigger. I don't care how much the brakes weigh as long as they work quietly and consistently. So far this has not been the case.
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Submitted by
Brad M
a Weekend Warrior
from Durban - South africa Date Reviewed: April 15, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | The Whiffles | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$525.00 | | Purchased At: | Melville | | Strengths: | 4 piston calipers without a doubt. The stopping power is incredible, and modulation is excellent. Dot 5.1 fluid changes all this for the better, over the 4 standard. The lever bearing setup is a winner. Grab any good brakeset levers after a year and see how much play there is in the lever pivot pin, with codes you can change bearings and adjust the tension, no sloppy levers, sure it makes them a bit heavy, but worth the precision. Levers are a bomb proof design and shape for resisting impacts. | | Weaknesses: | The 'generic'pads supplied with the initial purchase literally disintegrated in the first few rides. while replacing them i noticed that the rear of the pads were not marked as per the aftermarket Avid pads. The hoses supplied with the initial kit were skinny ass junk, you could literally see them expanding when pressurised. I changed to Hayes hoses (with a few compression nut, hose barb and comp fitting experiments) and the difference was immediate. I dont know whether this was just a product cost cutting exercise on SRAMs part, but either way a crappy addition to a good product. The replacement pads are still good months down the line, with even wear! This system DOES NOT LIKE AIR - any air! If present the brakes pump or fade as they see fit, modulation is impossible to dial continously making consistent riding impossible. If you can't invest in the proper bleed kit then get your LBS to do it,only if the guys are familiar with Avid. I re-bleed at least once every 2 months to maintain consistent braking. Fussy system that work WELL only if maintained. The levers and internals need to be cleaned too, carefully, as there are still no service downloads available for Codes yet, only component exploded views. My rear caliper seized 2 pistons on opposite sides, which had to be drilled and chipped out before replacement, took hours so as not to damage the chambers. | | Similar Products Used: | Shimano - although no similar 4 piston caliper systems have been available of late. | | Bike Setup: | Mongoose Teocalli- 06 Boxxer U-turn. X-Fusin glyde RPV. Hone shifters. Raceface crank. Mavic 823's with Maxxis Bling-Blings. e-Thirteen DRS. | | Bottom Line: | When these are cared for they WORK. No doubts! you will outride your mates because of the awsome quick stopping power and adjustability. If you dont like fussing with your bike, or aren't mechanical, these aren't for you. Go SAINT rather. 4 Hot ones for the system. the fifth was lost because of SRAMS cheap add ins which cost me moolah to sort! Expensive brakes here, but you get what you pay for (or you SHOULD get what you pay for - SRAM!) | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jan Meyer
a Weekend Warrior
from Sydney, NSW Australia Date Reviewed: April 8, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | Oxford Falls | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$450.00 | | Purchased At: | ebay store | | Bottom Line: | This is just an update of my previous review. Bike setup hasn't changed much except for some bling parts.
I have still to change the pads from my original pads. I have done a bit of downhill on some seriously steep hills and a lot of riding at my local freeride track. The freeride track doesn't require nearly as much braking as the downhill runs, but I do get out there very often (twice a week at least).
I haven't re-bled it yet either, but my friend did his. He rides a bit less and after a period of not riding for a month his brakes seemed very snappy. The bleed fixed it and all is good, but it could be some effect of the fluid they use that doesn't like to stand for too long without use.
All in all, I am still 100% happy with this purchase a year on and will buy them again if something went wrong. As far as noise goes, I do occasionally get it to be noisy, but it's always because of excessive dust and a couple of brake taps sort it out quickly. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Dominik
a
from Port coquitlam Date Reviewed: April 6, 2008 | | Favorite Trail: | triple crown,galloway,flywheel | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Purchased At: | used | | Strengths: | Will stop you really fast and hard to overheat | | Weaknesses: | You need to buy a syringe set to change the oil. | | Similar Products Used: | Hayes 9,avidd bb7, | | Bike Setup: | shore 2 | | Bottom Line: | If you put a little bit of copper compound they are the best brakes out there.It stops the squeeling if you dont like them so strong put a little more then usual just dont put to much.I really recommend it it also stops them from overheating and slows down pad wear. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Gavin
a Weekend Warrior
from Vancouver Date Reviewed: March 13, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$500.00 | | Purchased At: | ebay | | Strengths: | very strong and precise | | Weaknesses: | weight | | Bike Setup: | 2008 sx trail, custom | | Bottom Line: | These are amazing brakes. These were my first pair of hydros I've had and they blew me out of the water. When you sqeeze the lever, you are stopping for sure. They are a little on the heavy side, but the new ones look like they shaved off those pounds a bit. Definitly get these brakes! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
jake
a
from pawcatuck, ct, usa Date Reviewed: March 10, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Strengths: | light weight, powerful as anything, modulation modulation modulation! | | Weaknesses: | none that i can see! | | Similar Products Used: | avid bb7's and juicy ultimates, everthing hayes | | Bike Setup: | 2004 enduro, completely rebuilt with 2008 components..one mean slopestly/urban bomber! | | Bottom Line: | these are my first pair of hydros. I have always run BB7's on my DH bikes (i'm a light guy!) with no issues, but i wanted to try em. These brakes are awesome. Not only could they stop a tank, but they feel great. The modulation owns! I only faceplant if I want to :D And did i mention they are less expensive then comprable brakes? | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Josh E
a Downhiller
from portland, OR Date Reviewed: December 27, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | stub stewert | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$150.00 | | Purchased At: | amazon.com | | Strengths: | everything, lighter than i expected. | | Weaknesses: | the reach adjust is hard to get to, the avid code 5s do not have a pad adjust which means ur reach adjust is the only bet. | | Similar Products Used: | none | | Bike Setup: | 2007 mongoose firebal, SRAM x.7 drivetrain | | Bottom Line: | if you get used to it theese brakes rule. no problems what so ever! it takes forever to learn how to not skid on them. its tricky. but it can be done. theese are my first hydros and i love em, they stop me so fast! i can barely scweez the lever and have a friend try to spin the back tire as hard as he can and he cannot make it budge, theese are beasts. but be warnd. when purchosing. make sure it says "avid code" instead of "avid code 5" very easy to miss. 5/5 | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Jason Koplin
a Cross Country Rider
from COLORADO Date Reviewed: December 5, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Commando loop | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$300.00 | | Strengths: | Excellent feel, totally adjustable, wide range of adjustments, very powerful, very easy to set up, well thought out and easy line alteration, excellent bleed system( I would buy again just for the bleed kit), quiet, | | Weaknesses: | Wish they were around sooner | | Similar Products Used: | Hates, I mean Hayes | | Bike Setup: | Turner Six Pack, Zoke AM1, Raceface/XTR, DT Hugi Wheels, Avid Codes, Syncros pedals, | | Bottom Line: | Great brakes, as I listed before, all the good stuff you would want in a brake none of the bad. I must say, the bleed kit is a thing of beauty. not a drip, no bubbles, excellent system. I will recommend Juicy's and Codes just for the bleed kit. No hoses popping, fluid on the floor/frame, no missed bubbles, no doing it over. These brakes are great quiet, powerful, excellent modulation, no lever play at all yet very smooth due to the bearings. I am quite pleased. I bought a front set to replace my busted Hayes, thinking I would get the rear when my rear hayes died. Once installed, I quickly ordered a rear Code. It was such a drastic difference. Anyway, by 'um, you will be happy, get the bleed kit too. Happy trails | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ken
a
from Boulder, CO Date Reviewed: November 21, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | * Power * Power * Modulation * Adjustment * Nice bleed system * Power | | Weaknesses: | * Setup/alignment of rear caliper can be a pain. * Organic pads wear fairly fast. | | Similar Products Used: | Hayes, Magura, Hope | | Bike Setup: | Intense Uzzi VPX - DHX5, Totem, Hadley's, etc. | | Bottom Line: | These brakes have more modulation and stopping power than any non-motorized bike will ever need. I'm 250+ with gear and these things consistently stop with ease through a long day of running the lifts.
My only gripe is alignment. The tri-alignment system gives you plenty of flexibility, but can make it easy to have things just a little "off" on the rear. I thought I had mine dialed but was still having issues with vibration and brake howl. I tried new pads, a new rotor, cleaning and sanding but still couldn't get the thing to quiet down. After quite a bit of tinkering it all came down to caliper alignment.. Once I got it _perfectly_ aligned then it started working like a dream. Overall I'm still firmly convinced they are the best brake on the market right now. True one-finger braking even on the steepest rollers.
I'm not sure how anyone has had issues with adjustments?? The dial adjustment is great for fine tuning and there is still an allen head adjustment in the lever for the initial reach setup. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Mike
a Weekend Warrior
from Bothell Date Reviewed: November 17, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | 911 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$350.00 | | Purchased At: | Ebay | | Strengths: | Incredibly powerful with modulation. Sweet looking. I have the 2007 codes which are black. | | Weaknesses: | None if you use them for what they are intended. | | Similar Products Used: | Avid BB7 | | Bike Setup: | 2006 Santa Cruz Nomad. Fox DHX shock with ti spring. Saint/XTR components. Fox Van RC2 36 fork. Deemax. | | Bottom Line: | If you like to go fast these are the brakes for you. Up at Whistler you can wait until the absolute last moment to brake for the corner and these bad boys will slow you in a second. Not only are they powerful but you can dial in how firm they feel at the lever. I like to ride moto style with the front brake on the right and these levers are ambidextrous. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
John
a Downhiller
from Munich Date Reviewed: November 8, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Evil Eye | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$450.00 | | Strengths: | Modulation is perfect Strength Weight is good for the power on mine (2008 model) | | Weaknesses: | i hate bleeding the rear ;) | | Similar Products Used: | Avid Juicy, Hayes Nine | | Bike Setup: | Specialized SX Trail, Deemax, Codes, Lo-Pro Mag, 66's, Minions 2,5. | | Bottom Line: | Probably the best out there I definitely recommend them to anyone freeriding or downhilling | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Paul
a Downhiller
from Vancouver BC Date Reviewed: November 5, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$400.00 | | Purchased At: | privately | | Strengths: | build quality, finish, overall feel and design. | | Weaknesses: | Although I know how to do it, no instructions on how to shorten brake hoses or accessory tools to do it.
No instructions on how to bleed the system.
I hate using D.O.T fluid, would prefer a mineral oil, open bath system | | Similar Products Used: | Magura Louise FR, Hayes Mag, Shimano Deore | | Bike Setup: | 07 SC Bullit, DH setup. | | Bottom Line: | These are the new 2008 codes with stock organic pads
Because I weigh 200lbs and ride alot of steeps I was looking for a more powerful 4 piston brake and these deliver. First ride in the wet and muck and overall very pleased. No brake squealing like everyone else seems to harp on about.
I really like their positioning system of concave washers, really smart and they are easy to setup.
Think of your Saints with more power and the same modulation.
Nice lever feel and adjustability and they look just killer. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Lindsay MacQueen
a Downhiller
from Orange, New South Wales, Australia Date Reviewed: October 30, 2007 | | Favorite Trail: | Mt. Canobolas - all of 'em! | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$420.00 | | Purchased At: | Torpedo7.com | | Strengths: | As I have only recieved the brakes and set them up today, I haven't had much time with them. However, from the short ride around the block I had, they had awesome power and modulation, and they aren't even broken in yet! Everything is easy to set up and get running also. | | Weaknesses: |
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