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Submitted by
MrNutt
a Cross Country Rider
from UK
Date Reviewed: April 6, 2008 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | Orange bikes | | Strengths: | their strength is their strength! | | Weaknesses: | a bit weighty but not too bad | | Bike Setup: | Orange Sub Zero | | Bottom Line: | used & abused, wacked a kerb and expected a blown tyre and a buried tyre, not a dent, hard as nails! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Ryan M
a Cross Country Rider
from San Lius Obispo
Date Reviewed: November 30, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | from a friend | | Strengths: | Really strong, great starter wheel. Works for Vbrakes an Disks, easy to swap between.
I railed hard on these wheels while i was learning the sport and never even had to true them. | | Weaknesses: | Pinch Flat a lot | | Bike Setup: | Used on both Kona Kilueaua and Azonic Propulsion | | Bottom Line: | Bang for your buck, great learning wheelset. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Hui Chuen Chuang
a Downhiller
from Penang, Malaysia
Date Reviewed: October 29, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Penang Hill, Youth Park, Mt. Erskine. | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Price Paid: |
$100.00 | | Purchased At: | CCI | | Strengths: | Strong. Cheap. | | Weaknesses: | Looks plain | | Bike Setup: | 2001 Stinky Primo | | Bottom Line: | excellent. | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
sam
a Downhiller
from portland OR USA
Date Reviewed: October 8, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Downhill or Nar Nar | | Duration Product Used: | 6 months | | Strengths: | Not to bad on the weight. Strong on drops, rocks , stairs anything vertical it does pretty well on, but I have full suspension to help out. | | Weaknesses: | Any thing lateral it comes out of true a bit. | | Bike Setup: | Iron horse Yakuza, Marzocchi droop off 3, Hayes 9 | | Bottom Line: | GREAT, for a start-up set. Your going to buy somethin' later BUT ITS STILL WORTH IT FOR ALL THE LEARNING YOU'LL DO ON IT. | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
Chris
a Downhiller
from Canada
Date Reviewed: July 2, 2007 | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Price Paid: |
$40.00 | | Strengths: | Lightish, | | Weaknesses: | Break at weld, Do not look too great. | | Similar Products Used: | Mavic EX729 | | Bike Setup: | Iron Horse 7 point, Boxxer team, Swinger 6 way | | Bottom Line: | Going down a rock slab into turn. Nothing to insane and the next thing I know I am flying through the air in dirt and rock. The wheel failed at the weld seem. I weight 210lbs so a stronger rim for a rider my weight might be advisable! | Value Rating: Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
steve F
a Downhiller
from north bay ONT canada
Date Reviewed: April 27, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | rigar mortis | | Duration Product Used: | Less than 1 month | | Purchased At: | north riders | | Strengths: | they seem to hold up a 200 pound rider so-so | | Weaknesses: | heavyer than a MAG 30 with a STOUT on the friggen thing
feels like theres flex when i torque out on it
+ flex on landing tranny or flat | | Similar Products Used: | s-type, mag 30, super sycle rims (lol) , single tracks | | Bike Setup: | stock 2007 norco shore 3 with nokian NBX 2.3 tires | | Bottom Line: | heavy warped alittle from lightly louse spokes pinch flat alot heavy but if you dont care and want a set of rims to just ride on and if ur lighter than i am then you'll probably like them more than i will | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
tscheezy
a
from Kodiak, Alaska
Date Reviewed: April 8, 2007 | | Favoriate Trail: | Losee/Casto/Cassidy Utah | | Duration Product Used: | 2 Years | | Purchased At: | Demo 6-Pack | | Strengths: | Surprisingly durable.
Very reasonable weight.
Reliable engagement of the freehub.
Extremely stiff rims that stay true.
Wide rims for their weight.
Well sealed bearings. | | Weaknesses: | Kinda cheap generic spokes.
Rear hub adjustment sucks pretty bad.
More freehub engagement points would be nice.
Wider flange spacing for more wheel strength. | | Similar Products Used: | Lots and lots of wheels. King ISO and Discotech, DT 240 and 240s, Shimano XT, etc. | | Bike Setup: | Turner 6-Pack | | Bottom Line: | This review is for the original Dual Duty FR with the 20mm front axle that came on my '05 Turner 6-Pack.
After hearing all the horror stories about the American Classic hubs these are based on, I was ready to hate these wheels. I have to admit that they are surpassing my expectations nicely. I ride in very very wet conditions here in coastal Alaska (think North Shore), and sealing is a very big deal to me. The AM Classic wheels were known for having terrible seals and needing frequent bearing replacement. Not so with these. They are sealed far better than XT and probably better than my DTs. Every time I open them up and go into the bearings I am pleasantly surprised at how clean the grease looks.
The rims are very wide for their width and extremely stiff. The pokes aren't the greatest and I have broken one or two on the rear when the heads popped off at the elbow, but the rims stayed true due to their stiffness. No serious need for truing yet depsite trips to Utah and a lot of ugly pounding and drops to flat.
I really hate the cone-wrench style rear hub adjustment system where you really need 3 arms to get them set up. Dumb system. You also are supposed to leave a tiny bit of play in the rear hub as any preload on the bearings reduces their life spans (supposedly, according to Am Classic). Play in hubs makes the bike bump and rattle and is annoying as hell. Adjusting to eliminate any play is a pretty frustrating procedure of trial and error (you have to put the wheel in the drops and tighten the QR down to really check for play) with the stupid cone wrench system.
The front 20mm hub is just sort of there. It works, nothing to report.
Overall great wheels. 5 flaming turds for value since they are inexpensive.
4 for overall since the rear hub adjustment is super lame. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
D rock
a
from SLO
Date Reviewed: June 26, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 1 Year | | Price Paid: |
$275.00 | | Purchased At: | on line | | Strengths: | Wow what a wheelset. These are the nicest wheels I have ever owned. Super strong, and lightweight too. The 30mm width makes a smaller tire ride like a bigger tire, because it gives it a much larger "footprint". Bearings are super smooth, and very quiet. The black on black looks really nice too ! | | Weaknesses: | Price, but you get what you pay for. | | Similar Products Used: | You name it. | | Bike Setup: | 03 Bullit 5th Element, Z1QR20, variuos heavy duty trail / freeride stuff. | | Bottom Line: | If you would like to stop truing your wheels after every ride, or you are fat rider like me (250 +) that is tired of breaking things. Get these. They can really take a beating. | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
Submitted by
kirkus
a Downhiller
from Bucharest, Romania
Date Reviewed: April 10, 2006 | | Duration Product Used: | 3 months | | Price Paid: |
$200.00 | | Strengths: | light and strond | | Weaknesses: | none so far | | Similar Products Used: | S-type | | Bottom Line: | Very good wheels. Light and strong, recommended for fr. Urban riding doesn't affect them :D | | Value Rating:Overall Rating: |
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